04-03-2015 02:56 PM
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  1. cardboard60's Avatar
    If you are with AT&T and you go anywhere and upgrade your phone to the Samsung Galaxy S6 that you loose your contract on your rate plans ?
    I just found out that after ordering a Samsung Galaxy S6 phone from Best Buy last Friday.
    That I will be made to pay twenty something dollars a month to go on the NEXT Plan.

    I Refuse to go to the NEXT plan. If they wasn't making money off it they wouldn't be trying to push it.

    I got decisions to make. I may be going to Walmart and getting their phone and their service.
    04-01-2015 05:07 PM
  2. clevin's Avatar
    wait, if you are eligible for upgrade at ATT, doesn't that mean your contract is almost over anyway?
    04-01-2015 05:12 PM
  3. cardboard60's Avatar
    wait, if you are eligible for upgrade at ATT, doesn't that mean your contract is almost over anyway?
    If you are eligible for a upgrade. And you upgrade and sign the papers to upgrade the phone. They change your contract and you wind up going to a new contract which cost more. They try to make it sound like you are saving money. You can get a new phone ever 12 months. But if you keep the phone over 12 months they win. Or if you leave the carrier they also win,

    Remember this Nothing in Life if free.

    I've already called AT&T and talked and screamed with them about this.
    I've called Verizon and they said also I would have to go on their next plan.
    Just think if everybody on every carrier pays twenty something dollars more a month how many Billions of dollars of revenue they are gonna make.
    04-01-2015 05:15 PM
  4. dpham00's Avatar
    You are probably currently getting the off contract pricing on att. If you get a phone on contract, then you would lose the $15/25 discount per line(assuming mobile share value) . If you buy on next (device payment plan) then you keep the discount, but have to pay for the phone, either in full, or through a device payment plan (next).

    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 4
    04-01-2015 05:19 PM
  5. cardboard60's Avatar
    AT&T and Verizon both said. Your bill goes up twenty something dollars a month. But at the end of the year you get a new phone.
    I'm retired. And on a budget. Now willing to pay twenty something dollars a month more.
    If you got twenty something dollars a month more you sign the contract.

    I will decide when I will get a new phone. Not somebody else.
    04-01-2015 05:23 PM
  6. clevin's Avatar
    AT&T and Verizon both said. Your bill goes up twenty something dollars a month. But at the end of the year you get a new phone.
    I'm retired. And on a budget. Now willing to pay twenty something dollars a month more.
    If you got twenty something dollars a month more you sign the contract.

    I will decide when I will get a new phone. Not somebody else.
    Is T-mobile an option for you?
    04-01-2015 05:26 PM
  7. jcp007's Avatar
    AT&T told me that I would lose my discounts if I converted to Next and did the mobile share plan

    Posted via My Samsung Galaxy S4 Handheld Device
    04-01-2015 05:45 PM
  8. 20blks's Avatar
    From what I was told, samsung charges the carrier full price for the phone. So in turn, the consumer will all pay full price. If I get the S6 on the next plan for 44.95 a month it comes to around 600 after 12 payments (at that point I can get a new phone and start all over). If I use my upgrade, I would pay 299 for the phone but my bill goes up $25 a month for 2 years (there goes that $600 again). Either way, I'll pay full price for the phone. All carriers are doing the same, they just dress it up differently.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    04-01-2015 05:59 PM
  9. karmamule's Avatar
    Is T-mobile an option for you?
    Agree they're worth investigating if you haven't recently. T-Mobile has done lots of work on their network in the last couple years, and I'm seeing much more continuous coverage even when I travel outside my normal home and work zones. I'm very happy with them. I've been a customer of Verizon's and AT&T in the past and would never have said that about either of them.
    04-01-2015 06:11 PM
  10. cardboard60's Avatar
    Is T-mobile an option for you?
    Sorry dude I live in the country, T-Mobile is a hit and miss. I have poor service even with AT&T
    I am with AT&T because Verizons service is even higher than AT&T.
    04-01-2015 07:41 PM
  11. beatsandlife's Avatar
    AT&T told me that I would lose my discounts if I converted to Next and did the mobile share plan

    Posted via My Samsung Galaxy S4 Handheld Device
    Discounts? What discounts?

    Posted via the Android Central App
    04-01-2015 07:44 PM
  12. cardboard60's Avatar
    From what I was told, samsung charges the carrier full price for the phone. So in turn, the consumer will all pay full price. If I get the S6 on the next plan for 44.95 a month it comes to around 600 after 12 payments (at that point I can get a new phone and start all over). If I use my upgrade, I would pay 299 for the phone but my bill goes up $25 a month for 2 years (there goes that $600 again). Either way, I'll pay full price for the phone. All carriers are doing the same, they just dress it up differently.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    I have a Family Share plan, I pay 100.00 a month for unlimited talk, Text and 10gb data and I have hotspot.


    I loose all my family share plan and my bill goes up about 50.00 a month .
    Which would be somewhere in the 148.00 range.

    Just came from Verzion and the same plan would be up to 180.00 a month.
    04-01-2015 07:45 PM
  13. cardboard60's Avatar
    Bottom line, everybodys rates are going up.
    Unlesss you got over 700.00 for a new smartphone.
    04-01-2015 07:48 PM
  14. cwise222's Avatar
    Any upgrade I do though AT&T itself gives me the option to do Next or do a 2 year contract. I've never been forced into either, though every carrier is going to push Next/Edge/whatever over a contact. Next itself isn't a contact, you're just agreeing to pay full price for the phone over the course of 20 or 24 payments in exchange for getting a certain amount off your bill each month.

    For me Next is cheaper then a contact. Between my work discount and the discount for being on Next it covers the monthly cost of the phone and I pay a few bucks less then if I got a contact. For quite a few people Next works and for quite a few it doesn't.

    AT&T isn't making much (if any) extra money off of Next since you're pretty much just paying what AT&T paid for the phone, maybe a bit more since the aim to make money, and they reduce your service cost each month by $15 or $25. I'm guessing they make more money off doing whatever it is the do when you turn your phone in after 12/18/24 months.

    Regardless, you should still be able to upgrade and sign a new contact so long as you are eligible to upgrade your current phone. If you aren't eligible for an upgrade, which I think is 24 months since your last upgrade, then yeah, Next would be the only option.
    04-01-2015 07:56 PM
  15. smooth4lyfe's Avatar
    If you are with AT&T and you go anywhere and upgrade your phone to the Samsung Galaxy S6 that you loose your contract on your rate plans ?
    I just found out that after ordering a Samsung Galaxy S6 phone from Best Buy last Friday.
    That I will be made to pay twenty something dollars a month to go on the NEXT Plan.

    I Refuse to go to the NEXT plan. If they wasn't making money off it they wouldn't be trying to push it.

    I got decisions to make. I may be going to Walmart and getting their phone and their service.
    NEXT is actually good. Its better than being stuck on a contract. I used NEXT to upgrade my phone to the S6. I had to pay $400 get an early upgrade because I got my Galaxy S5 with Next, but I sold it on eBay otherwise, I would have just had to pay $200 for a trade-in. This is considering the fact I got the S5 last year. AT&T usually doesn't let you upgrade that early. I can easily sell my Z3 for $500+ so I can make up for it.
    04-01-2015 07:58 PM
  16. jcp007's Avatar
    Discounts? What discounts?

    Posted via the Android Central App
    Corporate

    Posted via My Samsung Galaxy S4 Handheld Device
    04-01-2015 07:59 PM
  17. cardboard60's Avatar
    Any upgrade I do though AT&T itself gives me the option to do Next or do a 2 year contract. I've never been forced into either, though every carrier is going to push Next/Edge/whatever over a contact. Next itself isn't a contact, you're just agreeing to pay full price for the phone over the course of 20 or 24 payments in exchange for getting a certain amount off your bill each month.

    For me Next is cheaper then a contact. Between my work discount and the discount for being on Next it covers the monthly cost of the phone and I pay a few bucks less then if I got a contact. For quite a few people Next works and for quite a few it doesn't.

    AT&T isn't making much (if any) extra money off of Next since you're pretty much just paying what AT&T paid for the phone, maybe a bit more since the aim to make money, and they reduce your service cost each month by $15 or $25. I'm guessing they make more money off doing whatever it is the do when you turn your phone in after 12/18/24 months.

    Regardless, you should still be able to upgrade and sign a new contact so long as you are eligible to upgrade your current phone. If you aren't eligible for an upgrade, which I think is 24 months since your last upgrade, then yeah, Next would be the only option.
    I called AT&T 611 on the AT&T phone, and walked into the AT&T store.
    They said when I upgrade my phone on the 199.00 Upgrade. I will loose my family share plan and my rates will go up.
    Just spend all afternoon going to the stores.
    They will not let me upgrade and keep the same rates I have.

    If you can do it. Your doing something I can't do.and I have been with them for 15 yrs.
    04-01-2015 08:02 PM
  18. cardboard60's Avatar
    NEXT is actually good. Its better than being stuck on a contract. I used NEXT to upgrade my phone to the S6. I had to pay $400 get an early upgrade because I got my Galaxy S5 with Next, but I sold it on eBay otherwise, I would have just had to pay $200 for a trade-in. This is considering the fact I got the S5 last year. AT&T usually doesn't let you upgrade that early. I can easily sell my Z3 for $500+ so I can make up for it.
    What if you don't upgrade in a year.
    Or what if you change carriers because of service ?
    You are still locked into the carrier as far as I'm concerned.

    I don't see it as a win situation. I see it as somebody having more control.
    04-01-2015 08:04 PM
  19. smooth4lyfe's Avatar
    What if you don't upgrade in a year.
    Or what if you change carriers because of service ?
    You are still locked into the carrier as far as I'm concerned.

    I don't see it as a win situation. I see it as somebody having more control.
    The good thing about Next is you dont have to pay the ETF fee, which would be like $300+ if you were on a contract.
    After each month you pay, the cost of upgrade goes down, and eventually you will get a free upgrade without paying anything
    04-01-2015 08:09 PM
  20. cwise222's Avatar
    I called AT&T 611 on the AT&T phone, and walked into the AT&T store.
    They said when I upgrade my phone on the 199.00 Upgrade. I will loose my family share plan and my rates will go up.
    Just spend all afternoon going to the stores.
    They will not let me upgrade and keep the same rates I have.

    If you can do it. Your doing something I can't do.and I have been with them for 15 yrs.
    Ah, OK, they have finally kicked the Family Share plans to the curb. I was on the Family Share 700 when I went to Next around last June and back then you could still keep the Family Share plan if you signed a new contract. I didn't know they finally shut them down.
    04-01-2015 08:10 PM
  21. cardboard60's Avatar
    The good thing about Next is you dont have to pay the ETF fee, which would be like $300+ if you were on a contract.
    After each month you pay, the cost of upgrade goes down, and eventually you will get a free upgrade without paying anything
    The good thing about NEXT is Nothing. You pay twenty something dollars a month per line.
    There is nothing good about it. But the Cell phone carriers has a new plan.
    My wife hasn't upgraded her phone in a year in a half. That would not be good for us.
    She could care less if she used the same phone for the rest of her life if it didn't cost her any more money..
    04-01-2015 08:13 PM
  22. jcp007's Avatar
    I called AT&T 611 on the AT&T phone, and walked into the AT&T store.
    They said when I upgrade my phone on the 199.00 Upgrade. I will loose my family share plan and my rates will go up.
    Just spend all afternoon going to the stores.
    They will not let me upgrade and keep the same rates I have.

    If you can do it. Your doing something I can't do.and I have been with them for 15 yrs.
    I have been with AT&T since 1994. My upgrade eligibility date was 4/18, I called CS and CSR was not helping. I asked to speak to a manager, was put on hold, and subsequently got a manager's override. I did this by being pleasant yet firm. My upgrade date was moved up to 3/27. At lunch that day, I did my pre-order at Best Buy


    In the past, if I was within 30 days, I would be accommodated with the upgrade date change as long as it wasn't an iPhone. Outside this window, I could upgrade but at the two year price plus + $50. When my son shattered his i4, it was replaced with a GS4 at no charge. When I upgraded my dad's line, got the GS5 at no charge. My guess is that it is a function of monthly fee size and longevity. My wife and I have the grandfathered unlimited data. My son has 3GB as does my dad.

    Posted via My Samsung Galaxy S4 Handheld Device
    04-01-2015 08:16 PM
  23. cardboard60's Avatar
    I have been with AT&T since 1994. My upgrade eligibility date was 4/18, I called CS and CSR was not helping. I asked to speak to a manager, was put on hold, and subsequently got a manager's override. I did this by being pleasant yet firm. My upgrade date was moved up to 3/27. At lunch that day, I did my pre-order at Best Buy


    In the past, if I was within 30 days, I would be accommodated with the upgrade date change as long as it wasn't an iPhone. Outside this window, I could upgrade but at the two year price plus + $50. When my son shattered his i4, it was replaced with a GS4 at no charge. When I upgraded my dad's line, got the GS5 at no charge. My guess is that it is a function of monthly fee size and longevity. My wife and I have the grandfathered unlimited data. My son has 3GB as does my dad.

    Posted via My Samsung Galaxy S4 Handheld Device
    I was on the phone for over 3 hours talking to different AT&T people in different states. Went from California to Georgia to somewhere up north and back to Florida.
    Mabe you got better pull than I do.
    They all said when you sign a new contract for 199.00 your rates will change from 100.00 a month to over 140 a month.
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    04-01-2015 08:21 PM
  24. smooth4lyfe's Avatar
    The good thing about NEXT is Nothing. You pay twenty something dollars a month per line.
    There is nothing good about it. But the Cell phone carriers has a new plan.
    My wife hasn't upgraded her phone in a year in a half. That would not be good for us.
    She could care less if she used the same phone for the rest of her life if it didn't cost her any more money..
    You do know you only pay per month until the phone is paid off, then you don't have to pay anything else after that
    04-01-2015 08:23 PM
  25. cardboard60's Avatar
    You do know you only pay per month until the phone is paid off, then you don't have to pay anything else after that
    How long do you figure to pay off a phone 24 months ?
    Then you upgrade and it starts again.
    We used to only pay 199.00 every 2 yrs. And not the extra charges a month.
    The discounted plans seem to be gone.
    They worked out the unlimited data contracts also so they could draw new customers in.
    04-01-2015 08:34 PM
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