05-25-2015 04:54 PM
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  1. danthman's Avatar
    How many PDF readers do I need on my phone? How about ONE?! Why are there three?

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    05-21-2015 06:57 PM
  2. jcp007's Avatar
    How many PDF readers do I need on my phone? How about ONE?! Why are there three?

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    Can't you disable any of them?

    No offense. Your thread title is a bit over generalized. Just my opinion and I am not a paid attorney or spokesperson. There are fewer unnecessary apps than the GS5 that you have the option not install and more that you can disable. There are some that you can disable. There are som that you select as you default and you shouldn't be prompted again.
    05-21-2015 07:14 PM
  3. dcool19d's Avatar
    How many PDF readers do I need on my phone? How about ONE?! Why are there three?

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    They didn't make you buy the phone, you chose to buy it.
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    05-21-2015 07:28 PM
  4. AlphaTango414's Avatar
    All three apps have different functions besides being a pdf viewer. First one looks to be useful the Google Drive App. The second one let's you make word documents and spreadsheets. Third one looks like it's an option from dropbox.

    I don't think you understand the actual meaning of bloatware.

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    05-21-2015 07:46 PM
  5. maduro78's Avatar
    Damn you guys are rough lol

    Moto X 2014
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    05-21-2015 07:54 PM
  6. razza1987's Avatar
    They didn't make you buy the phone, you chose to buy it.
    They also didn't say what apps would be preinstalled on the phone either
    05-21-2015 07:56 PM
  7. Zendroid1's Avatar
    They also didn't say what apps would be preinstalled on the phone either
    That wasn't too hard to figure out even prior to the release.
    05-21-2015 10:40 PM
  8. danthman's Avatar
    Can't you disable any of them?
    I made a good faith attempt to disable literally everything I didn't want that came pre-installed on my phone. I can tell you that I did not specifically install any of these three apps (though they may have been bundled with something I did install).

    There are some that you select as you default and you shouldn't be prompted again.
    The problem is, I have no idea which of these 3 apps I should choose as my default. Which one is best?
    05-21-2015 10:54 PM
  9. danthman's Avatar
    They didn't make you buy the phone, you chose to buy it.
    Thank you for clearing that up. One negative comment about the phone must mean I hate it.
    05-21-2015 10:56 PM
  10. I Can Be Your Hero's Avatar
    The problem is, I have no idea which of these 3 apps I should choose as my default. Which one is best?
    Try them all and see which one you like most I suppose. Trial & error.
    05-21-2015 11:00 PM
  11. danthman's Avatar
    All three apps have different functions besides being a pdf viewer. First one looks to be useful the Google Drive App. The second one let's you make word documents and spreadsheets. Third one looks like it's an option from dropbox.
    I was attempting to open a PDF when this dialog popped up. I wasn't attempting to do anything with Google Drive, Office, or Dropbox. What exactly is going on with Android that so many app developers feel the need to bundle in a PDF reading capability?

    I don't think you understand the actual meaning of bloatware.
    My phone has multiple apps that do the same thing, and I didn't directly install any of them. Whatever you want to call it, it doesn't make for a positive user experience.
    05-21-2015 11:04 PM
  12. danthman's Avatar
    Try them all and see which one you like most I suppose. Trial & error.
    Yes of course I can go through the trouble of doing that, but I just feel a basic utility app like a PDF reader should be stock Android, not something that comes bundled with other apps. Same with image/photo viewers. If I want to upgrade any of these things beyond the default, I'll find a dedicated app in the Play Store, where I can view ratings and reviews.
    05-21-2015 11:10 PM
  13. I Can Be Your Hero's Avatar
    Yes of course I can go through the trouble of doing that, but I just feel a basic utility app like a PDF reader should be stock Android, not something that comes bundled with other apps. Same with image/photo viewers. If I want to upgrade any of these things beyond the default, I'll find a dedicated app in the Play Store, where I can view ratings and reviews.
    Yeah I do agree with you. There should be one default app for PDF viewing, and if the user isn't happy with it, then they can go to the Play Store and download a different one. Having 3 out of the box probably is overdoing something that doesn't need doing.

    Unfortunately, the S6 comes with a plethora of duplicate apps doing the same thing. You might have to go into the settings -> applications and disable (or delete if possible) the ones you don't like. Or if they can't be disabled, then you can set one as a default (by clicking 'Always') then the option won't show up and it'll always default to the app you chose as the preferred app.
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    05-21-2015 11:26 PM
  14. bembol's Avatar
    I'm guessing the issue here is OP's carrier? My S6 only has the Hancom Office.

    That's the problem with android, carriers. They love bloatware.

    My family & friends DO NOT know how to delete or disable them.
    05-22-2015 12:45 AM
  15. John Woo1's Avatar
    I dont have any of those pdf reader preinstalled.
    S6 does comes with much less preinstalled apps and I dont know if carriers based phones are more bloated than unlocked phones. Mine is unlocked and compare to mine Note 1, Note 2 and its much less bloats preinstalled.
    Open Google folder and u will see whos the culprit here. To have Android for free and Google demands all OEMs have theirs own apps preinstalled.
    So its not Samsungs fault or other OEMs and Google.
    05-22-2015 02:57 AM
  16. AlphaTango414's Avatar
    But apps that you have downloaded giving you the option to use them for pdf viewers isn't bloatware... that's the point I'm making. Maybe someone likes Google drive but doesn't want Dropbox or whatever else it was giving the option to use. So that user would probably only get the option to use dropbox.

    Pick one and move on. It's not that big of a deal. Lol people these days spoiled. Adaptation is the way of a happy healthy wonderful life.

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    05-22-2015 08:28 AM
  17. deeb215's Avatar
    Set it and forget it.
    05-22-2015 08:33 AM
  18. getbretweir's Avatar
    They didn't make you buy the phone, you chose to buy it.
    I hate this argument (no offense, just saying). just cause somebody chose to buy something, doesn't mean they can't dislike some features.

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    05-22-2015 08:56 AM
  19. dcool19d's Avatar
    I hate this argument (no offense, just saying). just cause somebody chose to buy something, doesn't mean they can't dislike some features.

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    Well like the old saying goes, you get what you paid for
    05-22-2015 12:41 PM
  20. jcp007's Avatar
    Well like the old saying goes, you get what you paid for
    Or buyer beware....
    05-22-2015 12:50 PM
  21. dcool19d's Avatar
    Or buyer beware....
    That as well.
    Samsung has a history with bloatware but at least it isn't as bad as the previous phones
    05-22-2015 12:55 PM
  22. danthman's Avatar
    But apps that you have downloaded giving you the option to use them for pdf viewers isn't bloatware... that's the point I'm making. Maybe someone likes Google drive but doesn't want Dropbox or whatever else it was giving the option to use. So that user would probably only get the option to use dropbox.
    Fair point that the apps in question may not be Samsung installed bloatware, but it's still bloatware. As I said above, the problem is that there should be stock Android utility apps for things like viewing PDFs, viewing images, and watching videos. If an app developer wants to try to make a better PDF reader, they can put it on the Play Store as a standalone app, then people can see the ratings and read the reviews to decide if they want to install it. I don't like just being presented with a choice of three apps that all do the same thing without any information on the differences between or relative goodness of each app.

    Pick one and move on. It's not that big of a deal. Lol people these days spoiled. Adaptation is the way of a happy healthy wonderful life.
    My attitude is that things only get better if people speak up. So I'm speaking up. I promise you I'm not having a miserable day just because of having to choose from 3 different PDF apps, but I do think that the Android ecosystem would be better if a bunch of app developers were not all wasting effort tacking on their own PDF readers to apps that really have a different purpose.
    05-22-2015 01:21 PM
  23. Kalvin Kerns's Avatar
    I'm guessing the issue here is OP's carrier? My S6 only has the Hancom Office.

    That's the problem with android, carriers. They love bloatware.

    My family & friends DO NOT know how to delete or disable them.
    I do not see hancom office in my app drawer, if I did I would remove/disable it.

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    05-22-2015 02:09 PM
  24. edubb256's Avatar
    I think OP has a point in that this is a general usability issue, especially for new Android users. There are multiple options for a lot of things (my phone came with: two web browsers, two email apps, two music players, two photo apps, two PDF readers(my phone did not come with Dropbox preinstalled)). In these cases, you have a stock Android version and a Samsung version. I don't know how you get around this. OEMs are going to want to install their versions, and Google will insist that certain Google Android apps get installed. Some users prefer the choices, others would prefer not to have it. I, personally would be annoyed if they took away the choices, like Verizon did with browser, taking away the Samsung browser.
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    05-22-2015 02:18 PM
  25. AlphaTango414's Avatar
    Then wait for the next Google phone with Vanilla android to release. They did say the s6 would have less bloatware. Well they weren't lying because there is less than phones before this one.

    Also look at it this way, you are prompted to make a decision once, set it, and never worry about it again and keep on moving.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    05-22-2015 03:24 PM
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