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  1. Zoostation's Avatar
    Trust me, I get your point. But unless your grandmother lives by B's house and can't have wifi in her house as well to view images over wifi then just use a thumb drive or card reader to store such images so that you can view what ever you don't have stored on your phone.

    (you can still use photos to view your pics much more compressed without fully downloaded as well, and on a cell phone, that will be all you need. So when viewing with grandma you'll use almost no data)

    Also, going back to old school ways also means going back to 16gb vs 32gb for base models, and thus limited to what you can store on your phone when using such large apps as games (no developer is going to let you store the app on your card).

    And while it always seemed great to take pics with my dSLR and pull out the micro SD card with adapter and just slap it in my phone to quickly upload it to a website or text it to somebody fast. Let's also not forget how retarded it was to pull apart your case and /or phone to do so when it in the field just so you didn't have to carry a laptop. Or like with a phone like my m8, I would now have to carry a pin to open up the card tray... I'm telling you this was even worse if you wanted to do something like this on an m8 or the new m9.

    Yet today, I just carry a cord and reader or thumb drive. So simple, and far less headaches.

    Plus, your way, you have limited options for storage like on the note series or like on the G4. No, I'll take the new updated ways of the S6 every time. Even for the power user as many describe the note series... That's why I don't feel that Samsung is going to stay backwards on the note 5. People would rather have options or increased storage then less storage or limited functions with a card.

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    I don't think note users will be as accepting of no slot as S6 users. It's a different user base that won't purchase without it.
    06-02-2015 09:27 AM
  2. Aquila's Avatar
    I don't think note users will be as accepting of no slot as S6 users. It's a different user base that won't purchase without it.
    In a way I hope they call that bluff. I'd say 1-2% of Note users may choose something else for that reason, but I doubt it would even be that high.
    06-02-2015 09:34 AM
  3. warpdrive's Avatar

    And it's so secure.
    Invest some time in VPN research or read this....

    http://www.cnet.com/how-to/tips-to-s...-public-wi-fi/

    Stay safe, stay secure. Fight your government to secure your devices as they are full of intentional backdoors in both hardware and software. You are not secure in your home. You are not secure outside. If you think you are secure you are fooling yourself or misled. But please, at least invest the time or money in at least a good VPN when using public wifi.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    06-02-2015 09:44 AM
  4. Gator352's Avatar
    Trust me, I get your point. But unless your grandmother lives by B's house and can't have wifi in her house as well to view images over wifi then just use a thumb drive or card reader to store such images so that you can view what ever you don't have stored on your phone.

    (you can still use photos to view your pics much more compressed without fully downloaded as well, and on a cell phone, that will be all you need. So when viewing with grandma you'll use almost no data)

    Also, going back to old school ways also means going back to 16gb vs 32gb for base models, and thus limited to what you can store on your phone when using such large apps as games (no developer is going to let you store the app on your card).

    And while it always seemed great to take pics with my dSLR and pull out the micro SD card with adapter and just slap it in my phone to quickly upload it to a website or text it to somebody fast. Let's also not forget how retarded it was to pull apart your case and /or phone to do so when it in the field just so you didn't have to carry a laptop. Or like with a phone like my m8, I would now have to carry a pin to open up the card tray... I'm telling you this was even worse if you wanted to do something like this on an m8 or the new m9.

    Yet today, I just carry a cord and reader or thumb drive. So simple, and far less headaches.

    Plus, your way, you have limited options for storage like on the note series or like on the G4. No, I'll take the new updated ways of the S6 every time. Even for the power user as many describe the note series... That's why I don't feel that Samsung is going to stay backwards on the note 5. People would rather have options or increased storage then less storage or limited functions with a card.

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    Yes my grandma is 92. No WiFi. No pc. No smartphone. And yes she lives near aunt b's.

    But I said in a whim. Spontaneous. Like when she so happens to be at the grocery store, or at my uncles house. Kinda hard to lug external crap around just in case.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    06-02-2015 10:04 AM
  5. Zoostation's Avatar
    In a way I hope they call that bluff. I'd say 1-2% of Note users may choose something else for that reason, but I doubt it would even be that high.
    1-2%? I think it's a LOT more than that. I would agree with that statement more if you were referring to S5 users who wouldn't buy an S6. Note users are a different breed imo.
    06-02-2015 10:34 AM
  6. warpdrive's Avatar
    Yes my grandma is 92. No WiFi. No pc. No smartphone. And yes she lives near aunt b's.

    But I said in a whim. Spontaneous. Like when she so happens to be at the grocery store, or at my uncles house. Kinda hard to lug external crap around just in case.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    Like I said, Google photos for the win. Don't down load. Just open the image. It does use some data. But Google location services uses 10 times as much...and we all know that we shouldn't cripple our devices. *wink

    The cloud is not that hard of a hardship if you use it wisely. Btw, I'm on AT&T and don't have unlimited.

    Oh, and if you think it's hard to carry a thumb drive on your key chain then I give up. You win.

    Posted via the zenfone 2
    06-02-2015 10:42 AM
  7. warpdrive's Avatar
    In a way I hope they call that bluff. I'd say 1-2% of Note users may choose something else for that reason, but I doubt it would even be that high.
    If Samsung releases the note 5 with the base model at 64gb, then it won't even be half a percent IMHO.

    It's like on screen vs off screen buttons. Only us geeks talk about it. Nobody else cares.

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    06-02-2015 10:50 AM
  8. Aquila's Avatar
    1-2%? I think it's a LOT more than that. I would agree with that statement more if you were referring to S5 users who wouldn't buy an S6. Note users are a different breed imo.
    With the S6 I would have said 1-2% of 1-2%, maybe. I really don't think very many people care. Say they sell 70 million, I think there might have been 10,000-25,000 more purchases had they included an SD card. Removable battery probably 2,000-5,000 more sales and on screen buttons probably 500-1,000 more sales.

    If Samsung releases the note 5 with the base model at 64gb, then it won't even be half a percent IMHO.

    It's like on screen vs off screen buttons. Only us geeks talk about it. Nobody else cares.

    Agree with this.
    06-02-2015 10:53 AM
  9. Almeuit's Avatar
    Like I said, Google photos for the win. Don't down load. Just open the image. It does use some data. But Google location services uses 10 times as much...and we all know that we shouldn't cripple our devices. *wink

    The cloud is not that hard of a hardship if you use it wisely. Btw, I'm on AT&T and don't have unlimited.

    Oh, and if you think it's hard to carry a thumb drive on your key chain then I give up. You win.

    Posted via the zenfone 2
    That works for you and that is great. . others may not want that option and want the SD card. It doesn't make them wrong .. they just do not share your opinion on the matter .
    06-02-2015 11:13 AM
  10. warpdrive's Avatar
    That works for you and that is great. . others may not want that option and want the SD card. It doesn't make them wrong .. they just do not share your opinion on the matter .
    Never said anyone is wrong. Totally understand where people are coming from, and welcome other opinions. As I've said earlier, I moaned for weeks when the m7 don't have an SD card slot, and put my money where my mouth was and got an S4.... The first phone that wasn't HTC. SD card back with the m8, yep I still have it. The difference is that I couldn't get a 64gb model on the m7 as it was always sold out when I had money for it from the manufacturer. But with Samsung, this time, far more options then ever and you can buy it everyplace even at carriers with no interest and no down payment. Couldn't say that with HTC.

    But yeah, I welcome all views as sometimes even if I disagree at first, I might change my mind later once I learn from them.

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    06-02-2015 11:32 AM
  11. jcp007's Avatar
    With the S6 I would have said 1-2% of 1-2%, maybe. I really don't think very many people care. Say they sell 70 million, I think there might have been 10,000-25,000 more purchases had they included an SD card. Removable battery probably 2,000-5,000 more sales and on screen buttons probably 500-1,000 more sales.




    Agree with this.
    Agree with Assassin Droid on the impact of excluding the card slot and removable battery. It will take some time but unless you buy a non-flagship devices in the low end or medium price range, these two items are on their way out.

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    06-02-2015 11:33 AM
  12. cwise222's Avatar
    SD cards have their uses and there is a subset of users that do need them. For some people online storage and back up isn't an option, WiFi isn't magically everywhere like so many people think, and backing up over WiFi can destroy a battery. I took a vacation last week and used the S6 only for photos to try it out and when I backed up the pictures with the Google photos app when I got back to hotel wifi? My battery went from 89% (charged in the car back to the hotel) to 11% in an hour and a half with Google Services taking up a whopping 77% of the battery. It wasn't a tremendous amount of photos and suffice it to say I will never use online back up again until Google can stop junk like that from happening.

    SD cards have their uses, but mainly to power users. Samsung likely wants to push them to the Note 5, which I'm willing to be will have a removable battery and an SD card slot, so they can keep the mainstream S series going with key words like 'thin' and 'pretty'. That's what sells phones to 75% of the buying public. Also, SD cards would slow down the phone due to the advanced storage used in the S6.

    Samsung didn't just go 'well, let's yank the SD card slot and call it a day.' There were market studies, consumer surveys, usage statistics studied, and who knows what else and it all pointed to Samsung not loosing a huge amount of sales from yanking the SD card slot. If you have to have an SD card slot then the S6 isn't for you. No shame in that and LG and HTC both make flagship phones with that option. Go with what works for you.

    Google pushing more support for SD cards is not a negative on Samsung. Smaller OEM's in developing countries that make 8GB phones may have been pushing hard for it. Who knows. It's Android, there is a phone that works for everyone. Get what works for you and be happy.
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    06-02-2015 12:03 PM
  13. Gator352's Avatar
    Like I said, Google photos for the win. Don't down load. Just open the image. It does use some data. But Google location services uses 10 times as much...and we all know that we shouldn't cripple our devices. *wink

    The cloud is not that hard of a hardship if you use it wisely. Btw, I'm on AT&T and don't have unlimited.

    Oh, and if you think it's hard to carry a thumb drive on your key chain then I give up. You win.

    Posted via the zenfone 2
    Yes! It's hard dang it! I got two large overbearing key fobs (wife's car, my truck) and a bunch of keys I have no idea where they go! Lol

    I get your point man. No worries. I just prefer local storage. But times a changin' Google Photo's the best for what you described.

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    06-02-2015 04:18 PM
  14. t11rmh's Avatar
    In a way I hope they call that bluff. I'd say 1-2% of Note users may choose something else for that reason, but I doubt it would even be that high.
    I have a Note4 and if samsung does away with the SD card slot for the Note5 I'll be looking elsewhere. I didn't get a S6 for this reason and a sealed unit. Heard all the arguments before....

    Posted via a kicking Note4 on Lollipop.
    06-02-2015 07:04 PM
  15. jcp007's Avatar
    SD cards have their uses and there is a subset of users that do need them. For some people online storage and back up isn't an option, WiFi isn't magically everywhere like so many people think, and backing up over WiFi can destroy a battery. I took a vacation last week and used the S6 only for photos to try it out and when I backed up the pictures with the Google photos app when I got back to hotel wifi? My battery went from 89% (charged in the car back to the hotel) to 11% in an hour and a half with Google Services taking up a whopping 77% of the battery. It wasn't a tremendous amount of photos and suffice it to say I will never use online back up again until Google can stop junk like that from happening.

    SD cards have their uses, but mainly to power users. Samsung likely wants to push them to the Note 5, which I'm willing to be will have a removable battery and an SD card slot, so they can keep the mainstream S series going with key words like 'thin' and 'pretty'. That's what sells phones to 75% of the buying public. Also, SD cards would slow down the phone due to the advanced storage used in the S6.

    Samsung didn't just go 'well, let's yank the SD card slot and call it a day.' There were market studies, consumer surveys, usage statistics studied, and who knows what else and it all pointed to Samsung not loosing a huge amount of sales from yanking the SD card slot. If you have to have an SD card slot then the S6 isn't for you. No shame in that and LG and HTC both make flagship phones with that option. Go with what works for you.

    Google pushing more support for SD cards is not a negative on Samsung. Smaller OEM's in developing countries that make 8GB phones may have been pushing hard for it. Who knows. It's Android, there is a phone that works for everyone. Get what works for you and be happy.
    For the most part, I agree but I share the mindset that believes that the GN5 will have multiple on board storage options and a battery large enough to satiate the biggest of power users. Would be surprised if the GS6 plus isn't spec'd the same minus the the digitized pen.
    06-02-2015 07:05 PM
  16. Aquila's Avatar
    I have a Note4 and if samsung does away with the SD card slot for the Note5 I'll be looking elsewhere. I didn't get a S6 for this reason and a sealed unit. Heard all the arguments before....

    Posted via a kicking Note4 on Lollipop.
    Welcome to the .0001% of smartphone users that let that be the deciding factor. By the way, as you already know, there's nothing wrong with making your own criteria for what you want to spend your money on.
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    06-02-2015 07:07 PM
  17. t11rmh's Avatar
    Welcome to the .0001% of smartphone users that let that be the deciding factor. By the way, as you already know, there's nothing wrong with making your own criteria for what you want to spend your money on.
    I just find it amusing that you quote these percentages with no source to back it up.

    And by the way I also have a Samsung Galaxy A5 which has a sealed back and a SD card slot as a spare phone. So I might get a S6 next year as a spare to my Note5 (if I get a Note5 that is).

    Posted via a kicking Note4 on Lollipop.
    06-02-2015 07:13 PM
  18. jcp007's Avatar
    I just find it amusing that you quote these percentages with no source to back it up.

    And by the way I also have a Samsung Galaxy A5 which has a sealed back and a SD card slot as a spare phone. So I might get a S6 next year as a spare to my Note5 (if I get a Note5 that is).

    Posted via a kicking Note4 on Lollipop.
    He was using hyperbole to make a point.
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    06-02-2015 07:15 PM
  19. Aquila's Avatar
    I just find it amusing that you quote these percentages with no source to back it up.

    And by the way I also have a Samsung Galaxy A5 which has a sealed back and a SD card slot as a spare phone. So I might get a S6 next year as a spare to my Note5 (if I get a Note5 that is).

    Posted via a kicking Note4 on Lollipop.
    Totally just based on my earlier 1% of 1% post. It's not an assertion of fact, it's example of scale, in my opinion, of how prominent I think the mentality of letting one or both of those specific features make 100% of the determining factor in a purchase decision. It might be a little bit of a straw man, but there are 4 different kinds of people that noticed whether or not the S6 has an SD card:

    1. WOW THIS PHONE IS AWESOME!!! I wish it had an SD card
    2. Wow, that would have been a good phone, but no SD card, no sale.
    3. That phone sucked, wonder why it didn't have an SD card - if it did, it might have been better.
    4. That phone sucked, even if it had an SD card, I wouldn't buy it.

    Or something like that. My assumption (underline that) is that those 4 combined = about 3-4% of the people who considered buying an S6. I also assume that 50% or more of the people who bought an S6 don't know what an SD card is. I also assume that most bought the lowest internal memory device available because it's cheapest. And I also assume that most who bought it had a galaxy prior to the S6.

    I also, also, also assume that I don't care what the real numbers are - if it is higher or lower, doesn't really bug me. The point is, that I am of the opinion that the number of people who know and/or care about the SD card are ridiculously small compared to the gargantuan number of people buying Galaxy phones. AC is one of the largest (and IMO is the best) locations for nerds to discuss and read about Android tech, and we have somewhere around 3-5% of the volume of regular users compared to those buying Samsung devices every quarter. If less than 10% of (guess) of AC users are inflamed by the presence or absence of an SD card, then that leads me to believe that at best half a percent of Samsung users are also that fervent about it.

    But the numbers are illustrative, not statistics.
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    06-02-2015 07:37 PM
  20. berdinkerdickle's Avatar
    I have a Note4 and if samsung does away with the SD card slot for the Note5 I'll be looking elsewhere. I didn't get a S6 for this reason and a sealed unit. Heard all the arguments before....

    Posted via a kicking Note4 on Lollipop.
    It's easy inexpensive readily available expandable storage.
    Why in world would anybody here support a decision to dump it!?
    Maybe there was 'Market Research' that showed nobody cared if they had
    easy inexpensive readily available expandable storage.
    06-02-2015 08:06 PM
  21. Raptor007's Avatar
    IMO the fact that Google is now adding better support for MicroSD reflects POORLY on GOOGLE. They killed support two versions back forcing app devs and OEM's to cut support as it was clear Google wasn't going to support it. Now they are doing a 180 and suddenly Samsung is in the wrong. NOPE! Samsung offered up an excellent design offered 32/64/128GB of storage where apple thinks 16/64/128 is the right (rip off) way to go about thing. Samsung could incorporate microSD again, but why should they.
    06-02-2015 08:06 PM
  22. berdinkerdickle's Avatar
    IMO the fact that Google is now adding better support for MicroSD reflects POORLY on GOOGLE. They killed support two versions back forcing app devs and OEM's to cut support as it was clear Google wasn't going to support it. Now they are doing a 180 and suddenly Samsung is in the wrong. NOPE! Samsung offered up an excellent design offered 32/64/128GB of storage where apple thinks 16/64/128 is the right (rip off) way to go about thing. Samsung could incorporate microSD again, but why should they.

    I like posts that make sense.
    Your post makes sense.
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    06-02-2015 08:12 PM
  23. warpdrive's Avatar
    IMO the fact that Google is now adding better support for MicroSD reflects POORLY on GOOGLE. They killed support two versions back forcing app devs and OEM's to cut support as it was clear Google wasn't going to support it. Now they are doing a 180 and suddenly Samsung is in the wrong. NOPE! Samsung offered up an excellent design offered 32/64/128GB of storage where apple thinks 16/64/128 is the right (rip off) way to go about thing. Samsung could incorporate microSD again, but why should they.
    I said the same thing.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    06-02-2015 11:59 PM
  24. jcp007's Avatar
    I said the same thing.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    Agree with both of you but it's a win for both sides of the issue. There a ton of great devices out there to choose from. I just hope,that Samsung continues to move away from them in the Galaxy line though I expect one possibly in the Active.
    06-03-2015 06:07 AM
  25. warpdrive's Avatar
    Agree with both of you but it's a win for both sides of the issue. There a ton of great devices out there to choose from. I just hope,that Samsung continues to move away from them in the Galaxy line though I expect one possibly in the Active.
    Samsung might not get rid of it totally. But I wouldn't hold my breath for the note 5. As I and others said, on flagships, almost nobody is doing it any more and with phones now having 32gb for the base model there is no reason for it unless the phone doesn't have other options like higher default storage as I'm the S6 lineup. (now if the note 5 only come in a 32gb model then it should have a SD card. But if it comes as a 64gb standard or as an option, then nope)

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    06-03-2015 07:14 AM
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