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  1. Erm10's Avatar
    06-01-2015 03:57 PM
  2. UJ95x's Avatar
    No. They were able to make a better designed phone with 1) higher capacity models available and 2) significantly faster storage than their own and competing OEMs' flagships
    deeb215, jcp007, neiljay6 and 2 others like this.
    06-01-2015 04:04 PM
  3. berdinkerdickle's Avatar
    Because Samsung has somewhat disappointed me with the S6 and all its issues, I have for the first time in the iPhone's history, been seriously considering getting an iPhone 6+, but the jump up in price for more GBs is ridiculous. Especially when SD cards or so inexpensive.
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    It wasn't broken, Samsung.
    You didn't need to try and be an iPhone. :-(
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    06-01-2015 04:12 PM
  4. LeoRex's Avatar
    The odd thing about the original article is that he contradicts himself. Better handling of SD cards is important for lower end markets.... where 4G and 8G phones are more common and SD card support allows these phones to extend their functionality.

    To be honest with you, OEMs should not have to worry about SD cards on flagship-level phones.... they all have access to lots of fast, on-board storage to build into the things.
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    06-01-2015 04:17 PM
  5. deeb215's Avatar
    Consider all of the Nexus devices as well. Also, consider if Google will have this feature running bug free anytime soon. Anyway I'd rather have Samsung's implementation in the S6 then depend on a software hack from Google for micro sd cards again. I think it's time OEM's stop implementing every single thing Google comes up with anyway, the new notification system for example or so much white in the UI.
    06-01-2015 04:18 PM
  6. Gator352's Avatar
    I for one never had a problem, with any phone, using a micro SD card for storage. I typically used Samsung's own and now have a Samsung 64 GB pro micro SD card collecting dust.

    I for one think the omission was a stupid move. Sure, the internals are much faster but external storage had a place. And the removal was for what? So it could be thinner than the iPhone? And we also got a smaller battery to boot!

    I'm a way I blame Google for the backsupsies on this as they could have done this awhile ago but chose not to.

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    06-01-2015 04:43 PM
  7. berdinkerdickle's Avatar
    I also have never had one SD card issue.
    06-01-2015 04:53 PM
  8. Kalvin Kerns's Avatar
    This doesn't affect S6 sales in the least and anyway it's not Samsungs fault that Google is being wishy washy.

    I think that article is another Forbes Fail if anything.

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    06-01-2015 04:55 PM
  9. warpdrive's Avatar
    Personally as a gamer SD cards suck. Even if you can install the whole game and the data to the card, it will take twice as long to load each level and already such files are huge and take forever to load. SD cards are great for music and movies/pics. But not for anything else.

    Like what was already said, SD cards are great for the low to mid range phones that don't have too much on board storage. But for a flagship, I don't want to be locked down to only some minimum rom that I can't install more than what is being sold. A good example is the LG G4. It's a great phone that even has an SD card slot. But that SD slot won't help me when I run out of storage for my apps that are huge. And because you can't buy a G4 with anything larger than 32gb, I'm limited in options as to just what I can install.

    If this was 2013, then yes I agree that 32gb is enough storage for even the craziest data hog out there. But this is 2015, and with apps that are getting larger and games that are getting huge (with save files sometimes just as big), I feel that 32gb is not enough. Just think, with 4k video recording and a camera that takes 16mp pictures, a simple holiday like Christmas can lead to you filling up 5gb of storage real fast.
    (on some phones 4k video and taking pictures rapidly won't even save to the card so the built in storage can fill up fast.)

    Sure, you'll pay less if you use an SD card. But you'll also get less in return.

    If anything IMHO, Samsung did what others have failed to do by giving us storage options that nobody but Apple has done.
    Even in the past when the base model for Samsung Galaxy S2/3/4/5 was only 16gb, it would take you a month to get the 32gb model and it was almost impossible to buy the 64gb phone. To me this means that with the S6, Samsung not only made history, but was a huge success in being able to sell not only the base model of 32gb (already a nice increase from the past), but also sell the 64gb model during prerelease. The 128gb model also took only about a week delay or so, most likely due to high demand and with the carriers not realising how many people wanted it.

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    06-01-2015 04:58 PM
  10. Almeuit's Avatar
    I would say they didn't -- Samsung is just trying something new. They wanted to go with a premium build and therefore -- sacrificed the internals. Good choice or bad? That is in the eye of the beholder.

    I assume the Note 5 will still have the SD card so that could be an option for some.
    06-01-2015 05:01 PM
  11. felloffthetruck's Avatar
    I hope Samsung does not S6 the Note 5
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    06-01-2015 05:03 PM
  12. Almeuit's Avatar
    I hope Samsung does not S6 the Note 5
    I don't think they will .. I mean they could but .. The Note series is usually geared towards power users so I would hope they would just leave it but ... never know.
    06-01-2015 05:04 PM
  13. Gator352's Avatar
    This doesn't affect S6 sales in the least and anyway it's not Samsungs fault that Google is being wishy washy.

    I think that article is another Forbes Fail if anything.

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    Thing is, Samsung told Google to pound sand when Google wanted them to remove the home button and capacitive buttons.

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    06-01-2015 05:07 PM
  14. Gator352's Avatar
    Personally as a gamer SD cards suck. Even if you can install the whole game and the data to the card, it will take twice as long to load each level and already such files are huge and take forever to load. SD cards are great for music and movies/pics. But not for anything else.

    Like what was already said, SD cards are great for the low to mid range phones that don't have too much on board storage. But for a flagship, I don't want to be locked down to only some minimum rom that I can't install more than what is being sold. A good example is the LG G4. It's a great phone that even had an SD card slot. But that SD slot won't help me when I run out of storage for my apps that are huge. And because you can buy a G4 with anything larger than 32gb, I'm limited in options as to just what I can install.

    If this was 2013, then yes I agree that 32gb is enough storage for even the craziest data hog out there. But this is 2015, and with apps that are getting larger and games that are getting huge (with save files sometimes just as big), I feel that 32gb is not enough. Just think, with 4k video recording and a camera that takes 16mp pictures, a simple holiday like Christmas can lead to you filling up 5gb of storage real fast.
    (on some phones 4k video and taking pictures rapidly won't even save to the card so the built in storage can fill up fast.)

    Sure, you'll pay less if you use an SD card. But you'll also get less in return.

    If anything IMHO, Samsung did what others have failed to do by giving us storage options that nobody but Apple has done.
    Even in the past when the base model for Samsung Galaxy S2/3/4/5 was only 16gb, it would take you a month to get the 32gb model and it was almost impossible to buy the 64gb phone. To me this means that with the S6, Samsung not only made history, but was a huge success in being able to sell not only the base model of 32gb (already a nice increase from the past), but also sell the 64gb model during prerelease. The 128gb model also took only about a week delay or so, most likely due to high demand and with the carriers not realising how many people wanted it.

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    Not everyone used SD cards for game or app storage. I didn't. I used them for photo and video storage when I took pics and vids. Then I removed the card, or plugged the phone to the PC, and removed them to start clean.

    Not everyone trusts holding everything on their phone, for obvious reasons, and not everyone trusts the cloud storage either.

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    06-01-2015 05:13 PM
  15. warpdrive's Avatar
    Not everyone used SD cards for game or app storage. I didn't. I used them for photo and video storage when I took pics and vids. Then I removed the card, or plugged the phone to the PC, and removed them to start clean.

    Not everyone trusts holding everything on their phone, for obvious reasons, and not everyone trusts the cloud storage either.

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    As a photographer, I agree and did the same. Yet today you can do the same even though you don't have a card slot so I'm not sure what your point is.

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    06-01-2015 05:15 PM
  16. Aquila's Avatar
    One thing doesn't seem to have any relation to the other. Samsung elected not to include a poor implementation of removable storage and afterwards Google created something that will allow future devices to use that feature with better security and reliability.
    06-01-2015 05:47 PM
  17. Gator352's Avatar
    As a photographer, I agree and did the same. Yet today you can do the same even though you don't have a card slot so I'm not sure what your point is.

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    Point is, is that with an SD card I can remove it at will. If I want to take it out and store it away and use a different SD card, I can. Honestly, it's no big deal but it was an option that was removed so they can gain control on how you use your phone.

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    06-01-2015 06:02 PM
  18. Gator352's Avatar
    One thing doesn't seem to have any relation to the other. Samsung elected not to include a poor implementation of removable storage and afterwards Google created something that will allow future devices to use that feature with better security and reliability.
    How would it have been a poor implementation? Wasn't poor before. I think it was either because they couldn't make it work with a metal/glass chassis or because it would have increased the cost. If HTC could implement it in the m8 and m9, then Samsung could have done it. They chose to be like Mike.... Er.... Apple.

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    06-01-2015 06:08 PM
  19. Aquila's Avatar
    How would it have been a poor implementation? Wasn't poor before. I think it was either because they couldn't make it work with a metal/glass chassis or because it would have increased the cost. If HTC could implement it in the m8 and m9, then Samsung could have done it. They chose to be like Mike.... Er.... Apple.

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    The security and stability issues that are systemically common to 100% of SD cards, in addition to those introduced by knock off cards.
    06-01-2015 06:18 PM
  20. Erm10's Avatar
    How did the original title of this thread get changed without the author (me) changing it?
    06-01-2015 06:29 PM
  21. jcp007's Avatar
    No. They were able to make a better designed phone with 1) higher capacity models available and 2) significantly faster storage than their own and competing OEMs' flagships
    I agree. Only time will tell if sd cards continue to appear on flagship smartphones. Personally, I see them as an endangered species. In markets like the US, there would seem to be less of a demand for mid- and low-end devices where sd cards would be more of a necessity. Plus, my 64GB card in my GS4 went extinct. This doesn't reflect badly on Samsung. It is ironic that we are still questioning the merits of excluding the card slot even in light of recent developments as a result of the Google I/O. If you think the company made a mistake, vote with your wallet.
    06-01-2015 06:30 PM
  22. Gator352's Avatar
    The security and stability issues that are systemically common to 100% of SD cards, in addition to those introduced by knock off cards.
    I never had security or stability problems, so to say 100% is a misnomer. Maybe in knockoffs I can see where the problem lies but if using genuine top of the line cards from a reputable dealer, not eBay, wouldn't be a problem for most.

    So to say Google removed the feature to add security and stability, then to reinstate it is crazy at best. They could have just implemented them in software updates.

    Google doesn't like like SD cards. They've said it before. They want you to use cloud storage, especially G+, but it has been a failure. That and the backlash had pushed Google to do what they are doing now.... Reinstating it.

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    06-01-2015 06:39 PM
  23. Aquila's Avatar
    I never had security or stability problems, so to say 100% is a misnomer. Maybe in knockoffs I can see where the problem lies but if using genuine top of the line cards from a reputable dealer, not eBay, wouldn't be a problem for most.

    So to say Google removed the feature to add security and stability, then to reinstate it is crazy at best. They could have just implemented them in software updates.

    Google doesn't like like SD cards. They've said it before. They want you to use cloud storage, especially G+, but it has been a failure. That and the backlash had pushed Google to do what they are doing now.... Reinstating it.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    I think you'll find that SD cards continue to die in most of the US market and become better supported in emerging markets. That seems to be the driver here, reaching the next 5 billion consumers who don't have access to better alternatives. Google reintroduced SD card support in KitKat. Now they're expanding the functionality and security. There isn't any backlash on any widespread level, and I don't see this as backpeddling. This seems to be the next logical step in the SD card support improvements that they've been rolling out over the last two to three years.
    06-01-2015 06:45 PM
  24. Gator352's Avatar
    I agree. Only time will tell if sd cards continue to appear on flagship smartphones. Personally, I see them as an endangered species. In markets like the US, there would seem to be less of a demand for mid- and low-end devices where sd cards would be more of a necessity. Plus, my 64GB card in my GS4 went extinct. This doesn't reflect badly on Samsung. It is ironic that we are still questioning the merits of excluding the card slot even in light of recent developments as a result of the Google I/O. If you think the company made a mistake, vote with your wallet.
    Why? With 64 gigs, on a high end flagship, for apps and such and 64 gigs for photos, videos, and documents, how can that not be a necessity for some?

    I get what your saying though. I'm afraid it's a dying breed as well. But I honestly think it's a way for them to tier the phones in different sizes, lock then down, and charge you a premium... Especially when SD cards are much cheaper.

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    06-01-2015 06:48 PM
  25. Gator352's Avatar
    I think you'll find that SD cards continue to die in most of the US market and become better supported in emerging markets. That seems to be the driver here, reaching the next 5 billion consumers who don't have access to better alternatives. Google reintroduced SD card support in KitKat. Now they're expanding the functionality and security. There isn't any backlash on any widespread level, and I don't see this as backpeddling. This seems to be the next logical step in the SD card support improvements that they've been rolling out over the last two to three years.
    I agree with what you said there.

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    06-01-2015 06:50 PM
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