08-02-2015 05:21 PM
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  1. mayconvert's Avatar
    I don't understand what you people do to your phones the "make them slow down"
    I have had the S6 Edge since April 9th, I don't clear an cache, ever, and my phone is FAST and LAG Free to this day.
    Touchwiz on the S6 is a billion times better than ANY previous samsung. It's SO good, I haven't even installed a launcher.
    The default keyboard calendar, message app are Really Good. I haven't felt the need to change anything on the phone.
    I also use widgets. Still no slow down.
    If you phone "slowed down to old pentium speeds" its because you did something wrong. I own the phone, and it does Not slow down.
    I would call that a straight lie based off my phone being as fast as day one, 90 days later.

    Battery: my phone makes it thru every single day, all day, with no mid day charge. I don't even own a car charger.

    I am honestly Not a samsung fanboy. I have had a few samsung phones and sold all of them, including the Note 4 because of LAG.
    The S6 Edge is NOT slow and it lags about as much as a Nexus 6.
    07-08-2015 09:47 AM
  2. jskinvest's Avatar
    I don't understand what you people do to your phones the "make them slow down"
    I have had the S6 Edge since April 9th, I don't clear an cache, ever, and my phone is FAST and LAG Free to this day.
    Touchwiz on the S6 is a billion times better than ANY previous samsung. It's SO good, I haven't even installed a launcher.
    The default keyboard calendar, message app are Really Good. I haven't felt the need to change anything on the phone.
    I also use widgets. Still no slow down.
    If you phone "slowed down to old pentium speeds" its because you did something wrong. I own the phone, and it does Not slow down.
    I would call that a straight lie based off my phone being as fast as day one, 90 days later.

    Battery: my phone makes it thru every single day, all day, with no mid day charge. I don't even own a car charger.

    I am honestly Not a samsung fanboy. I have had a few samsung phones and sold all of them, including the Note 4 because of LAG.
    The S6 Edge is NOT slow and it lags about as much as a Nexus 6.
    There are many Galaxy S6 and S6 Edge owners who are experiencing extreme lag after a few days of use. That is undisputed. There are also many owners, like yourself, who do not have this problem. That tells me that some Galaxy S6 phones put out by Samsung are better than others. That is a quality control problem and is rather shocking.
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    07-08-2015 10:04 AM
  3. DSMpowerhousegroup's Avatar
    I don't understand what you people do to your phones the "make them slow down"
    I have had the S6 Edge since April 9th, I don't clear an cache, ever, and my phone is FAST and LAG Free to this day.
    Touchwiz on the S6 is a billion times better than ANY previous samsung. It's SO good, I haven't even installed a launcher.
    The default keyboard calendar, message app are Really Good. I haven't felt the need to change anything on the phone.
    I also use widgets. Still no slow down.
    If you phone "slowed down to old pentium speeds" its because you did something wrong. I own the phone, and it does Not slow down.
    I would call that a straight lie based off my phone being as fast as day one, 90 days later.

    Battery: my phone makes it thru every single day, all day, with no mid day charge. I don't even own a car charger.

    I am honestly Not a samsung fanboy. I have had a few samsung phones and sold all of them, including the Note 4 because of LAG.
    The S6 Edge is NOT slow and it lags about as much as a Nexus 6.
    This my and my son's experience. Phone is blazing fast and gets great battery life. Could be used error.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    07-08-2015 10:08 AM
  4. planoman's Avatar
    There are many Galaxy S6 and S6 Edge owners who are experiencing extreme lag after a few days of use. That is undisputed. There are also many owners, like yourself, who do not have this problem. That tells me that some Galaxy S6 phones put out by Samsung are better than others. That is a quality control problem and is rather shocking.
    I doubt it is QC. All users are different and use different apps etc. I think apps affect that more than anything else. I have never had a device slow down or lag and I have had all makes and models of phones. I do not use any kind of social media apps and turn my phone off every night and start each day with a fresh boot. I have been unaffected by many issues of lollipop because I reboot daily. YMMV.

    Not saying the G4 is not a super device but my S6 is also and I am very happy with it when I use it.

    Posted via my ZenFone 2 with 4GB RAM!
    07-08-2015 10:33 AM
  5. galaxyfive's Avatar
    There are many Galaxy S6 and S6 Edge owners who are experiencing extreme lag after a few days of use. That is undisputed. There are also many owners, like yourself, who do not have this problem. That tells me that some Galaxy S6 phones put out by Samsung are better than others. That is a quality control problem and is rather shocking.
    You can't throw out a blanket statement on Samsung's quality control like that. Sure there are customers that are complaining about the S6....but that does not mean the problem lies with Samsung. You must consider user setup above everything else first and that millions are using the phone as intended without problems described by a very small amount of users.
    07-08-2015 10:44 AM
  6. jskinvest's Avatar
    I doubt it is QC. All users are different and use different apps etc. I think apps affect that more than anything else. I have never had a device slow down or lag and I have had all makes and models of phones. I do not use any kind of social media apps and turn my phone off every night and start each day with a fresh boot. I have been unaffected by many issues of lollipop because I reboot daily. YMMV.

    Not saying the G4 is not a super device but my S6 is also and I am very happy with it when I use it.

    Posted via my ZenFone 2 with 4GB RAM!
    Yes..if you reboot your phone every day then you will not have these problems
    07-08-2015 10:48 AM
  7. Martin Ferreyra's Avatar
    In my opinion, yeah the G4 is much better than teh S6, samsung I don't know how it does, but always slows down the phones with his software.

    Otherwise a clean rom with S6.. hmm maybe but rooting the phone damage your warranty.
    07-08-2015 10:55 AM
  8. jskinvest's Avatar
    You can't throw out a blanket statement on Samsung's quality control like that. Sure there are customers that are complaining about the S6....but that does not mean the problem lies with Samsung. You must consider user setup above everything else first and that millions are using the phone as intended without problems described by a very small amount of users.
    The problems are widespread and well documented and even acknowledged by Samsung themselves. So I do think one could call it a quality control problem.
    07-08-2015 12:14 PM
  9. Commodus's Avatar
    Here's the thing: whether or not there's any user error involved, it shouldn't be this easy for your phone to bog down.

    I'm reminded of the bad old days of Symbian phones, when you had to reboot every day or two lest your device become an inoperable mess. Say what you will about the iPhone, but one of the big favors it did for the smartphone world was to remind people that rapidly decaying software performance shouldn't be a normal part of your experience -- and that's still true with Android.
    07-08-2015 05:27 PM
  10. Almeuit's Avatar
    Here's the thing: whether or not there's any user error involved, it shouldn't be this easy for your phone to bog down.

    I'm reminded of the bad old days of Symbian phones, when you had to reboot every day or two lest your device become an inoperable mess. Say what you will about the iPhone, but one of the big favors it did for the smartphone world was to remind people that rapidly decaying software performance shouldn't be a normal part of your experience -- and that's still true with Android.
    I won't dive into a huge debate but I have had my fair share with iPhone software breaks -- It isn't perfect like a lot of people think .
    07-08-2015 05:40 PM
  11. jskinvest's Avatar
    Here's the thing: whether or not there's any user error involved, it shouldn't be this easy for your phone to bog down.

    I'm reminded of the bad old days of Symbian phones, when you had to reboot every day or two lest your device become an inoperable mess. Say what you will about the iPhone, but one of the big favors it did for the smartphone world was to remind people that rapidly decaying software performance shouldn't be a normal part of your experience -- and that's still true with Android.
    You are right but not all Android phones suffer this kind of lag. Samsung is the worse by far. HTC MOTO and LG do not have this lag with their implementation of Android. Samsung has a serious RAM management problem.
    07-08-2015 05:48 PM
  12. Cool Jeff's Avatar
    About the S6 screen and all Amoled, there is a very important thing that everybody forget to discuss in their review: screen burn-ins!
    For someone like me who like to use my phone as a car audio screen it's very important for me to not get Amoled because of burnins.
    My M9 LCD screen is perhaps not the best as image quality but at least I know I can let the screen on for hours without having to worry about burnins.
    I will most probably get a G4 in a month because it's an 5.5'' LCD screen.
    I was tempted by the Note Edge but the crazy increase of price and presence of burnins even on the edge part is too crazy for me.
    07-08-2015 06:39 PM
  13. anon(5630457)'s Avatar
    I had both the S6 and the G4 (I currently have the S6 active). If I had to choose between either the S6 or the G4, I'd choose the G4 any day. The battery lasted all day and the camera was just as good as the camera on the S6. What turned me off from the S6 is that I had to charge it up at 3 pm because the battery was low. I hated the fact that I had to turn off wifi, automatic email fetching, and turn the screen brightness way down on the S6. What's the point of having a phone if you have to neuter its abilities in order for the battery to last a little while longer?
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    07-08-2015 06:59 PM
  14. Cozmohoot's Avatar
    Nice review! I am getting the s6 since the g4 doesn't have wifi tether for sprint yet. Also I like seidio spring clip which is not available for the g4.
    07-08-2015 07:56 PM
  15. Wai Kong Pang's Avatar
    I don't understand what you people do to your phones the "make them slow down"
    I have had the S6 Edge since April 9th, I don't clear an cache, ever, and my phone is FAST and LAG Free to this day.
    Touchwiz on the S6 is a billion times better than ANY previous samsung. It's SO good, I haven't even installed a launcher.
    The default keyboard calendar, message app are Really Good. I haven't felt the need to change anything on the phone.
    I also use widgets. Still no slow down.
    If you phone "slowed down to old pentium speeds" its because you did something wrong. I own the phone, and it does Not slow down.
    I would call that a straight lie based off my phone being as fast as day one, 90 days later.

    Battery: my phone makes it thru every single day, all day, with no mid day charge. I don't even own a car charger.

    I am honestly Not a samsung fanboy. I have had a few samsung phones and sold all of them, including the Note 4 because of LAG.
    The S6 Edge is NOT slow and it lags about as much as a Nexus 6.
    I totally agree. Me (S6) and ma wife (S6 edge) using the phone since 17th April. We both love the phone very much. We didn't kill apps (just read some article about how Android uses RAM) and hardly reset the phone. And we use some widget too. Recently updated to Lollipop. And the phone is still very snappy.

    Posted from my Samsung Galaxy S6
    07-08-2015 09:57 PM
  16. Ryan Wallace's Avatar
    Same here. I'm using the stock launcher, stock browser, stock theme, most stock apps and keyboard (no svoice of course) and a few google apps, and this phone is running even better than when I got it on April 22. I've gone weeks without rebooting and I've had 0 slow downs or lags. The S6 has been a consistently smooth device with great battery life for me. It's just a shame that others aren't experiencing the same.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk
    07-08-2015 10:10 PM
  17. galaxyfive's Avatar
    The problems are widespread and well documented and even acknowledged by Samsung themselves. So I do think one could call it a quality control problem.
    Lol, ok ...you're the internet expert on Samsung.
    07-08-2015 10:16 PM
  18. nbr1sportsfan's Avatar
    Thank you for this review
    I've had the S6 for about a week now and have been increasingly frustrated with the battery life. Seeing it go from 100 to 60 in about 90 minutes doesn't give me confidence that i can handle having it for 2 years - especially when that battery will eventually not handle a full charge.
    I can't get past the battery life to truly test much anything else and am now convinced i need to return it...
    thank you
    07-08-2015 10:20 PM
  19. himanon101's Avatar
    Honestly I don't get it how can basically half the people say they have no issues and the other half are like you and me? I would give it another shot with the new moto or wait until the 5.1 update and see if that helps
    The lags and occsional hangs are due to a memory leak issue prevalent in android 5.0. LG G4 runs 5.1 so it can't be seen there. The new update fixes this.
    By the way how is the multitasking on S6 ? Are you experiencing redraws and reloads during switching apps ?
    07-09-2015 12:14 AM
  20. Fred Wilson2's Avatar
    My S6E (unlocked, non-carrier, international running on AT&T) is running 5.1.1 and I have no slow downs and it's very snappy.


    Fred
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    07-09-2015 12:19 AM
  21. himanon101's Avatar
    Wonder how many people who have the ram problem are using carrier phones, maybe if Verizon in particular....
    I have an unlocked, non-carrier, international S6E using it on AT&T (has factory rom, not AT&T modified rom and no AT&T bloatware, since it's a non-carrier branded phone) and I have no problems with mine at all.

    Fred
    /

    Can you switch between apps without reload ? and there's no aggressive ram usage like 90% used all the time ?
    07-09-2015 03:01 AM
  22. mach1man's Avatar
    Let me preface by saying this is MY opinion so if you don't agree with something that I said please don't tell me I am wrong, its the way I feel so it cant be wrong to me ( Oh wow I sound like my wife!!!!! ). So I have had both phones the S6 for a little over a month and G4 since release day. Hopefully this will help some people who are still on the fence or who are wondering the differences between these 2 flagships

    SCREEN:
    This is when the S6 shines. Its easily the best screen on a smartphone I have seen, IF YOU LIKE THE AMOLED type of displays this is hands down the best. There is really nothing negative you can say, If you dont like the "punchy" colors you can change the display settings. If I didn’t ever see the S6 display and only saw the G4 then the G4 would have won that title. I have had the Note4, HTC M8 and the Nexus 6. A good way of looking at the G4 screen is it would be the middle setting of the Samsung settings. Not quite as “punchy” as the amoled cinema setting but more “punchy” than the basic. Im a huge fan of the amoled displays and the LCD is the one that comes closest to reproducing the contrast you see on Samsung displays. The S6 gets extremely bright in outdoor auto settings, the G4 not as bright but bright enough you will not complain.

    BATTERY LIFE:
    As good as the S6 screen is that’s how BAD the battery life is. I know some people have had good battery life with the S6 unfortunately I was not one of them. I tried everything installing several different battery saving software, greenfy etc…. Nothing worked! I would reset the cache partition about every 2-3 days (will get into that later). It could have been I had a defective device but seriously doubt it With the S6 I ALWAYS found myself looking at the battery and closing apps, running sweep master, doing battery saving things! And yes I did all the tips and tricks mentioned in these forums and other forums. Yes I know the quick charging is fast WHO CARES!!!! I want my damn battery to make it at least a day! My experience with the G4 was complete opposite, I had the same apps same things running and the G4 would get me through the day with ease, I can even turn up my brightness and turn on location settings to high. It was truly a night and day difference. I never once when I left my house with a full charge had to worry about not having enough to make it the whole day. Bottom line is the G4 battery was way better FOR ME than the S6.

    Software/Performance
    Oh Samsung when are you going to get this right???? I wanted to like the new Touch Wiz sooooooo bad. The first few days I had the phone it was AMAZING just flawless performance ZERO lag everything was snappy and almost instant. Then a week went by, then 2 then 3 and my phone was acting like a old Pentium CPU that couldn’t handle all the stuff you put on it. There were times when I would hit my home button and after what seemed like 5 minutes but was actually @30 sec later my home screen would show up! I think this is called redraw? From my experience if you add widgets and load up your screens the phone almost becomes a brick I would have to run my screens like a Icrap and have nothing on them. This is where every 2-3 days I would reset the cache partition and it would run fine then start acting up again. I read that this could possibly be a lollipop problem or the way Samsung handles memory. I tried it all, turning on developer options and limiting background process then went back to standard, nothing worked. I can honestly tell you that this phone went from being almost perfect to almost unusable! And yes I tried Nova, M launcher and every other launcher and got the same result. This really sucks because I really liked touch wiz and the new themes.
    Once again COMPLETE opposite experience with the G4, this phone has run the way the S6 did when it was running flawlessly. I have all my widgets hell I even have Live wallpaper and it runs like nothing it on it. I know its weird because I read that peoples G4 is laggy etc. I have 0 need to want to add a launcher at this point. The G4 has acted the same as it was day 1. Very impressed with the LG skin and the optimization , goes to show you its not the sheer numbers but how the software and chip work together, and I hate to admit it Icrap has been proving that for years.

    Camera
    I LOVE THE S6 camera it is amazing! Some of the shots I took with it did not look like a came from a cell phone camera, the colors the simplicity in the options( even though there was a lot of them ) were almost perfect! There really is nothing wrong I can say about this camera, in my eyes the best by far on any smartphone. The G4 COULD BE better, but im not a damn photographer I don’t know what the heck shutter speed iso blah blah blah is. Im sure if you took the time to study all that you can do with the G4 camera it would be better than the S6. But it you were taking just straight shot for shot without all the adjustments the S6 has a better camera. Both cameras are great and are easily 1 and 2 in my opinion on smart phone cameras

    Overall/ Summary
    I am a Samsung lover! This is the first LG phone I’ve had and I am VERY impressed IF and that’s a BIG IF the S6 ran like it did the first few days I got it, it would be the better phone, but the fact I have to baby it and HOPE it runs good is a big turnoff and the fact for me the battery was horrible and that sealed the deal . The G4 been flawless from day one ZERO lag all day battery and then some I am really impressed with this phone. BUT once the s6+ is released if the rumors are true I will be switching back( the joys of Tmobile new jump on demand) to see if the addition of 5.1 and hopefully Samsung learned and made the phone run smoother regardless If its day 1 or 30. Its to bad the S6 ran the way it did for me. If all things being equal and both phones ran the same way with no lag and all day battery the S6 would be my choice. But for me that was not the case. And LG has done one hell of a job with the G4, it’s a great phone and is my choice for my daily driver…………………for now!!! ( s6+ Note 5)
    Do you have any keyboard lag when texting on the LG G4??
    07-09-2015 08:32 AM
  23. fotyc's Avatar
    Thanks for this informative review and this reasonably civilized conversation!
    I am still leaning G4 but will keep in mind the question of antenna quality, as I tend to live and work in places with weaker signals. Also, by October which is when I can get a phone, if there is an issue maybe there will be a correction and the phones shipped to the carriers in the fall might be better?
    07-09-2015 08:44 AM
  24. Fred Wilson2's Avatar
    Yes. I switch all the time, no problem(s) at all. No reload, no redraw and everything in the app that I switch to is exactly as I had left it.

    If you wander over the the LG G3 and G4 forums, you'll find the "same" complaints. Battery life bad, slow, laggy, runs hot, etc.
    I also have a G3, same as my S6E (that is an unlocked, non-carrier, international one) that I use on AT&T also, and I have none of the problems that I see complaints of in the G3 forums.



    Fred


    /

    Can you switch between apps without reload ? and there's no aggressive ram usage like 90% used all the time ?
    07-09-2015 09:01 AM
  25. souvikultimate's Avatar
    I think S6 is much better than G4 in processing speed to play apps. G4 has bigger screen size but S6 amoled is far better than G4.
    07-09-2015 09:04 AM
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