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  1. mustang7757's Avatar
    Oh yeah, makes sense. I guess I was a little stressed. After waking-up this morning and seeing that AT&T was continuing the ruining of my phone, by forcing the v.8 Oreo update (I've been on v.7 Nougat up til now) — which deleted the very useful & constantly used 'Usage Manager' widget — that was present in v.6 & v.7, and one of the main reasons I purchased the S7.

    I'd like to sue them, if I could. But I'll try to calm down. Thanks again for your help. It looks like both threads are now here on the S7 Active thread, so I'll ask Galactic Zoo if they wouldn't mind migrating over here, if they're still commenting.
    No problem , it would just lead him to here so it's all good now
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    07-18-2019 10:13 PM
  2. Mooncatt's Avatar
    Since purchasing the Galaxy S& Active, I used it continually to enable/disable mobile data, as well as kill all running apps.
    If these are the only two reasons you want that app, I'd like to suggest something else.

    First, it's not a good practice to indiscriminately kill apps in the background. Once in a while an app may misbehave and need to be dealt with, but most of the time those apps just sit there doing absolutely nothing. They use no battery or processing power until called upon again. Android does this by design for more efficient task switching and battery use, and manages RAM on its own very well. When you kill off a bunch of apps like that, the OS is only going to re-initialize various apps again in the background to refill the now empty (I.e. Wasted) RAM. Every time you kill apps and let it fill RAM again is using extra power, not saving it.

    That leaves just the mobile data switching part of the app. There's a lot of stand alone apps and widgets in the Play store that do this. Considering they are only doing one thing and not a full suite of abilities, they should use less power than the Usage Manager app. Then again, does your phone have the quick toggles in the notification pull down? Many phones have those nowadays, including a mobile data toggle. If you have some toggles but not one for mobile data, check your settings for a way to edit/rearrange them to see if you can get it added.
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    07-18-2019 11:41 PM
  3. winmod21's Avatar
    If these are the only two reasons you want that app, I'd like to suggest something else.

    First, it's not a good practice to indiscriminately kill apps in the background. Once in a while an app may misbehave and need to be dealt with, but most of the time those apps just sit there doing absolutely nothing. They use no battery or processing power until called upon again. Android does this by design for more efficient task switching and battery use, and manages RAM on its own very well. When you kill off a bunch of apps like that, the OS is only going to re-initialize various apps again in the background to refill the now empty (I.e. Wasted) RAM. Every time you kill apps and let it fill RAM again is using extra power, not saving it.

    That leaves just the mobile data switching part of the app. There's a lot of stand alone apps and widgets in the Play store that do this. Considering they are only doing one thing and not a full suite of abilities, they should use less power than the Usage Manager app. Then again, does your phone have the quick toggles in the notification pull down? Many phones have those nowadays, including a mobile data toggle. If you have some toggles but not one for mobile data, check your settings for a way to edit/rearrange them to see if you can get it added.
    Thanks for that information, Mooncatt. I did not know that about killing apps with the 'stop all apps' function of the Usage Manager. And here all this time—3 years—I've been thinking I was saving RAM and battery power !:~\ So I appreciate the heads up.

    As for the Play Store stand alone apps, I read the reviews on the top 15 or 20 or so, and all or most of the ones I read had multiple reviews saying that the apps either didn't work for Android 8, or didn't work on the Galaxy S7, or had major bugs and crashes and/or annoying amounts of ads, etc etc.

    To mustang & Galactic Zoo: I'll try to test your suggestions of yesterday later this afternoon as work permits. Thanks again for all suggestions.
    mustang7757 likes this.
    07-19-2019 11:00 AM
  4. mustang7757's Avatar
    07-19-2019 12:16 PM
  5. Galactic Zoo's Avatar
    I'm still around to help if I can. Hope you get good luck!
    07-19-2019 04:17 PM
  6. Galactic Zoo's Avatar
    I've merged the 2 threads.
    Tarkus says thanks!

    The Stripey one
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    07-19-2019 04:18 PM
  7. Mooncatt's Avatar
    Thanks for that information, Mooncatt. I did not know that about killing apps with the 'stop all apps' function of the Usage Manager. And here all this time—3 years—I've been thinking I was saving RAM and battery power !:~\ So I appreciate the heads up.
    The way it basically works is RAM uses the same amount of power whether it's empty or full. Android is able to hold apps in RAM in a dormant state that use no processor while in the background. When you switch to that app, it simply "un-pauses" the app to pick up where it left off, which takes way less time and processing/battery power than to bring it back from scratch. That's why when you kill apps, Android will initialize them or others again to fill that RAM again.
    07-19-2019 11:57 PM
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