erwaso
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They did. . . it was within the 14 days, and they all said that if it had water intrusion, it was defective anyway.
Good for them! Best buy is awesome!
They did. . . it was within the 14 days, and they all said that if it had water intrusion, it was defective anyway.
I'll tell you what... If that guy's phone was ruined by running water over it I guarantee u it would have been ruined if placed in a sink full of water. It might have survived in a bowl of distilled water if the phone were off then immediately placed in a bag of rice for a week. So would most phones.LOL. Fair enough.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_Code
First number is for solids. IP0x = no protection. Then it goes up from "nothing bigger than a baseball can get in" to "nothing as big as dust can get in", (IP6 is the highest rating, basically, and means "very dust resistant"). This is a very logical progression from "you can fit a baseball in" to "you cannot fit dust in". It makes sense.
Second number is for liquids. It starts out clearly enough. IPx0 = no protection. IPx1 = water falling vertically. IPx2 = water falling at an angle. IPx3 = water falling at a more severe angle. IPx4 = water splashing against the enclosure (gently) at any angle. IPx5 = water being sprayed at the enclosure under light pressure from any angle. IPx6 = water sprayed under significant pressure at the enclosure at any angle. So you see a logical progression here - water falling vertically progressing to water under significant pressure from any arbitrary angle. 1 to 6 makes plenty of sense.
This is where things get complicated. IPx7 = immersion in still water of a meter or less and IPx8 is a meter or more, with the depth specified by the manufacturer. So by going from 6 to 7 we've suddenly dropped from "can tolerate a garden sprayer pointed at it" to "can be immersed gently in shallow still water"
The upshot is that your IP68 certification means nothing with regards to a sink tap. You need an additional IP64 or preferably IP65 certification for that. Because 7 and 8 only mean "still water", and a sink tap exerts pressure from the water falling.
I'll tell you what... If that guy's phone was ruined by running water over it I guarantee u it would have been ruined if placed in a sink full of water. It might have survived in a bowl of distilled water if the phone were off then immediately placed in a bag of rice for a week. So would most phones.
I would like to think a phone in my pocket wet from pouring rain or slightly immersed in water on a shelf or something would survice if ip68. I don't believe this phone would pass random objective lab tests to this standard. Maybe designed to but qc inadequate to ensure it. Then there is the accidental toilet test. It happened to me once years ago before smart phones.I agree with you. Glad it happened so early on ... but just to be on the safe side, I'm not going to be intentionally putting it in water again. No real reason to anyway except for showing off.
I'll tell you what... If that guy's phone was ruined by running water over it I guarantee u it would have been ruined if placed in a sink full of water.
People said the same thing with the S5, and there was no lawsuit lol.Samsung may need to be more careful with their advertising. If they show something being done with the phone which it isn't really designed to handle then they run a significant risk of a lawsuit.
They know that -- They're just saying there is a lot more pressure if you compare water sitting in a glass versus water flowing out of a faucet. The rating they gave this phone is not meant for "proofing" the phone. It is more so meant for accidental spills or if you're talking on the phone and it starts to rain some you won't have to freak out and worry about your phone.
This is true but ... As with any advertising you always have to read the bottom of the screen or the "details". If I went with everything I saw on TV / advertisements life would be great .. But you always read the fine print and say "Ahh I see what you're doing".
But isn't rain "flowing" water? It is in a sense. What If you have your phone out and it starts to pour? You have to put it away immediately right?
If that's the case, Samsung should even tout it as water resistant.
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i'm going to crash my car into a wall to show my family how the air bags work.
Water from a faucet has more concentrated pressure than rain fall. Let's not split hair here guys ... Common sense rule applies.
Not really. Rain can fall 7 to 18 miles an hour. There's enough pressure there to penetrate.
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PS. If Samsung says right in the manual to "rinse" the phone it's more than marketing jargon. A reasonable person can expect to have confidence in a manual.
What's a samsung repair shop? Are you in usa? Never heard of one.My husband's s5 was dropped in the hot tub and the Samsung repair shop took it in, did a pressure check and replaced his phone. The service there was excellent. If either of our S7s go haywire I will take them there rather than TMO.
Does rain reach terminal velocity?
What's a samsung repair shop? Are you in usa? Never heard of one.
i'm going to crash my car into a wall to show my family how the air bags work.