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  1. aha's Avatar
    Is it exaggerated?
    04-19-2016 10:46 PM
  2. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    Depends.

    If you display static content on it for an extended period of time like on a store unit or on-screen buttons, then it will burn-in. Not quite as quickly as some have stated, and certainly not as quickly now compared to older OLED panels, but it's still an issue. For instance, the Galaxy S6 edge store units I've seen have suffered from pretty bad burn-in after a year of service, as they're powered on for almost the entire day at maximum brightness without the screen going to sleep. That's an extremely high-wear situation and a phone won't go through that sort of usage pattern (screen on 24/7 at max brightness) in the hands of consumers, maybe even for its lifetime.

    Which brings me to this. Consumer units will suffer much less drastically compared to store units. They'll last for years with normal usage, though exceptions such as some Nexus devices with OLED panels exist. In most cases, however, you should be fine. I still have a 4 year old Galaxy S3 with the original display and it hasn't burned-in yet. Very impressive.
    04-19-2016 10:58 PM
  3. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    Agree with D13H4RD2L1V3. I have a 3+ year old Note 2 and a 1.5+ year old Note 4, both heavily used, and neither show any screen burn in.
    I honestly think some people are a bit paranoid over burn-in.

    From my experience, if you use it normally, you shouldn't be worried. It's not really such a big deal.

    The reason those S6e store units burned in was precisely because it was showing the same thing almost 24/7 at maximum brightness. I don't think a consumer unit would experience the same thing for even a few minutes, and especially not at max brightness. Hence, why my old S3 and your 2 Notes still have perfectly-fine displays.
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    04-20-2016 12:14 AM
  4. jinzen's Avatar
    AMOLED doesn't really "burn in", it's the pixels that die over time.

    Use your phone more and it dies faster. Brighter display? Dies faster. White screen? Dies faster.

    Over time, the display will change colors because the blue pixels degrade faster than the other pixels.

    In any case, I personally don't like AMOLED at all, but Samsung developed this tech so it uses it. The best IPS displays out there are just as good if not better, with no longevity issues.
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    04-20-2016 09:42 AM
  5. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    In any case, I personally don't like AMOLED at all, but Samsung developed this tech so it uses it. The best IPS displays out there are just as good if not better, with no longevity issues.
    I think display type is a matter of personal preference. Each has its own ups and downs. I don't believe that there is a screen tech that is universally better than all other ones since I don't think that's entirely possible right now.

    I personally do like the more saturated punchy colors of OLED panels alongside the crazy brightness on Samsung's recent AMOLED displays. However, I sometimes like the more-accurate color gamut and "whiter" white of an IPS panel. I don't really have a preference but if I had to choose right now, I'd probably go OLED. It's still improving and seems to be more popular in recent times, not to mention the higher maximum brightness since I use my phone outdoors a lot. That said, I still like IPS LCD for the reasons stated. I can go with either, really.
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    04-20-2016 10:24 AM
  6. Almeuit's Avatar
    I don't know anyone with the issue. I would think as long as you don't leave it on for like an hour or two in the exact same image you would be fine. My friends are the kind that keep phones for 2-3 years so I can see their phones for various ware & tare... Never seen anything .
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    04-20-2016 10:27 AM
  7. lafountain's Avatar
    Person I worked with had an issue with burn-in on her Galaxy Rugby Pro. That was entirely self-induced though because she had the brightness maxed out and the screen timeout setting was set to 10 minutes and always had her text messaging on the screen. She upgraded to the S6 Active, and have gotten her to not do that anymore and her Active is just fine.

    I on the other hand have not had the issue with any of my Samsung phones.
    04-20-2016 10:28 AM
  8. clintw22's Avatar
    Ive had every galaxy phone from 1-7 and have never had a burn in.
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    04-20-2016 10:30 AM
  9. Hassan272's Avatar
    Dark themes and reasonable screen brightness settings means you shouldn't have any issues, I guess. I've had the S3 mini, S3, S4, S5 and S6 without any burn-in issues.

    Posted via the Android Central App
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    04-20-2016 11:27 AM
  10. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    Yeah I'm not sure I've ever actually seen burn in "in real life"
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    04-20-2016 11:49 AM
  11. jinzen's Avatar
    Yeah I'm not sure I've ever actually seen burn in "in real life"
    I see it all the time actually. Easy to tell either with On Screen buttons or the Status Bar.

    However, most users just don't notice it or don't care.
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    04-20-2016 07:50 PM
  12. Kristian Nikolov's Avatar
    My 4 years old Galaxy Nexus had a terrible burn-in after only 2 months of use, mostly because of the on screen buttons and the status bar. But after a while even my app icons got burned on the screen. The only way I can see it isonly on a gray or dark backgrounds and images, otherwise you won't even notice it. That phone was the reason that I was so sceptical about getting the S7 edge. At the end though I decided to go with it as I presume the technology has improved at least a bit.
    04-21-2016 03:56 AM
  13. dpham00's Avatar
    I haven't noticed it on any phone that I have used
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    04-21-2016 04:13 AM
  14. abubasim's Avatar
    My wife's S3 Neo: How bad is the Amoled screen burn-in problem?-img_20160421_132200.jpg
    Notice the faint rectangle close to the centre of the display.
    We bought it around two years ago.

    This actually makes me feel sentimental as it reminds me of the old green phosphor mainframe displays I used to work on back in the late 80s, which also had problems with burning in.
    04-21-2016 04:25 AM
  15. piannetta's Avatar
    Ive had every galaxy phone from 1-7 and have never had a burn in.
    Me too, never had a problem, I think this is way over exagerated
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    04-21-2016 05:07 AM
  16. lafountain's Avatar
    Me too, never had a problem, I think this is way over exagerated
    I think the issue is, people see the demo model in stores and think that the same will happen to them.
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    04-21-2016 06:01 AM
  17. RichBrown68's Avatar
    AMOLED doesn't really "burn in", it's the pixels that die over time.

    Use your phone more and it dies faster. Brighter display? Dies faster. White screen? Dies faster.

    Over time, the display will change colors because the blue pixels degrade faster than the other pixels.

    In any case, I personally don't like AMOLED at all, but Samsung developed this tech so it uses it. The best IPS displays out there are just as good if not better, with no longevity issues.
    As I understand it, there are three people in the world who agree with this view that IPS displays are as good. That you're reading this response, keep in mind this person's bias toward Apple. Burn in is almost never an issue unless you leave your screen on the same thing for hour after hour after hour.

    Posted via the Android Central App
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    04-21-2016 06:54 AM
  18. jinzen's Avatar
    As I understand it, there are three people in the world who agree with this view that IPS displays are as good. That you're reading this response, keep in mind this person's bias toward Apple. Burn in is almost never an issue unless you leave your screen on the same thing for hour after hour after hour.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    False. Pixels die faster the more you use it. So it is *always* an issue, although most consumers won't be able to tell. The display will change in color over time through use, that's the problem with OLED in general.

    Somebody was even able to test it: Do AMOLED phone screens degrade over time? Yes, proof time, but...
    04-21-2016 11:00 AM
  19. jaycr123's Avatar
    Trust me, it's not exagerated. I had a Galaxy s6 Edge Plus which was only 5 months old. I had used the TomTom speed camera app and it had caused screen burn. I had got used to it even although it was quite unsightly but when I sold the phone via Mazuma the original price offered was £260. Then when I sent them the phone they reduced the offer to £110 because of the screen burn. This was all down to a single app which I had used for 2 or 3 hours per day for 5 months. Be warned!
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    04-21-2016 12:26 PM
  20. gg22's Avatar
    This is less of an issue with Samsung phones - Samsung knows AMOLED and uses it wisely - no onscreen buttons, status bar hides with many Samsung apps, icons on status bar are slightly tinted, etc. This is mostly an issue with sock Android software (Nexus, Motorola) that have many static elements and use bright white colors. That's why I disable nav/status bars and use gestures instead - less chance of burn in and more screen real estate available.
    04-21-2016 04:45 PM
  21. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    I see it all the time actually. Easy to tell either with On Screen buttons or the Status Bar.

    However, most users just don't notice it or don't care.
    That's a valid point. Could also be that I don't keep my phones long enough for it to happen.

    In any case, I don't see it on my 6p, or the Nexus 6 that I used for a year.
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    04-22-2016 04:03 PM
  22. Roberto Tomas's Avatar
    back in the pre 2010 days OLED screens already were above 10000 hours screen on time for the blue channel, which at the time was a weakness —it was so much lower than the red channel, which might have lasted 10-20x as long, about the same as an LCD screen, that people noticed it and that's where the bad name came from. Nowadays I'd be surprised to see numbers below 50000 hours —that's nearly 6 years of at least some power to a pixel before it has a reasonable chance of burning out. Of course spread those odds out over a few million pixels and it might be less, but still, a year or so of nearly constantly on time is probably necessary to be able to see any difference in the screen whatsoever.
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    04-22-2016 10:49 PM
  23. Nkky7's Avatar
    So that little adguard banner that's always on my screen when the phone is not in use may burn in the screen?

    Posted via the Android Central App
    04-23-2016 12:27 AM
  24. RichBrown68's Avatar
    False. Pixels die faster the more you use it. So it is *always* an issue, although most consumers won't be able to tell. The display will change in color over time through use, that's the problem with OLED in general.

    Somebody was even able to test it: Do AMOLED phone screens degrade over time? Yes, proof time, but...
    And this is the point I don't get about you. You've admitted several times, most people can't see this problem, but it's there. If we're talking about an issue regarding how a screen looks, and if most people can't see it, then why does it matter? What on Earth could possibly be the problem if the Invisible Man wears tacky-looking clothes?

    Posted via the Android Central App
    04-23-2016 06:09 AM
  25. jinzen's Avatar
    And this is the point I don't get about you. You've admitted several times, most people can't see this problem, but it's there. If we're talking about an issue regarding how a screen looks, and if most people can't see it, then why doesn't matter? What on Earth could possibly be the problem if the Invisible Man wears tacky-looking clothes?

    Posted via the Android Central App
    Because I don't like manufacturers putting in an End of Life date for products we buy. Apple does this through business upgrades but their products usually can you last you up to 5 years.

    The more you use your AMOLED display, the worse it gets, which means an S7 Edge may look significantly yellower, duller, with "burned in" images in years 2 or 3 of ownership, and they if no one educates consumers on these drawbacks, consumers lose out.

    I own so many Samsung products and i go through them quickly, but I am definitely NOT someone who is going to champion AMOLED with its significant lifespan limit, and if continue to be wary, then manufacturers might actually work on this issue more extensively. I'd expect an AMOLED to display to last 5 years minimum with no color changes or "burn in". IPS can so that's what I prefer now.

    I actually think one of the major reasons why Laptops, Computers etc are NOT AMOLED (they are more expensive its true) because of this exact reason. Manufacturers look at the AMOLED spec sheet and they realize computer screens are left on exactly like a demo phone would be at a store in normal usage, and that would be disastrous for the computer. We'd be going back to using "Screensavers" again.
    04-23-2016 09:21 AM
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