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  1. thecomicbookandme's Avatar
    I just purchased an S7edge running 6.0.1. (I REALLY love the phone b.t.w.)
    Moving apps to SD card is even worse than before in that the application manager no longer includes the check list of apps available to move. And, as with Lollipop, apps need to be moved back after updates.
    Does anyone know of a reliable application to make this process easier? (No clean master, please.)
    Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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    06-29-2016 08:55 AM
  2. Golfdriver97's Avatar
    Aside from forcing the SD card to be adopted as internal storage, I don't think there is a way to have apps be on the card. That option is up to the developer.
    06-29-2016 09:09 AM
  3. thecomicbookandme's Avatar
    I don't think there is a way to have apps be on the card.
    Go to Application Manager. Select the application you want to move. Select "storage". You will find the option there. (This doesn't apply to all apps. However some of the really big ones can be moved.) Of course, as in Lollipop, they have to be moved back after updates. That's the purpose of this request.

    Yea, heavy, and a bottle of bread.
    06-29-2016 09:31 AM
  4. Golfdriver97's Avatar
    Go to Application Manager. Select the application you want to move. Select "storage". You will find the option there. (This doesn't apply to all apps. However some of the really big ones can be moved.) Of course, as in Lollipop, they have to be moved back after updates. That's the purpose of this request.

    Yea, heavy, and a bottle of bread.
    Only a portion of the apps would transfer, if they could.
    06-29-2016 09:59 AM
  5. chanchan05's Avatar
    Besides, the main issue here is that Android itself doesn't support moving apps to SD card anymore. You'll be better off with just activating adoptable storage.
    06-29-2016 10:02 AM
  6. thecomicbookandme's Avatar
    Only a portion of the apps would transfer, if they could.
    What do you mean "if they could"? Don't you believe your own eyes? Would the option be available if it wasn't viable? It works just the same as it did in Lollipop.

    Yea, heavy, and a bottle of bread.
    06-29-2016 11:29 AM
  7. thecomicbookandme's Avatar
    Besides, the main issue here is that Android itself doesn't support moving apps to SD card anymore. You'll be better off with just activating adoptable storage.
    It supports moving apps as much as it did in Lollipop. It's just not as easy. The support for adaptable storage is even more questionable, as it isn't even available through the OS. Any helpful suggestions out there?

    Yea, heavy, and a bottle of bread.
    06-29-2016 11:31 AM
  8. coolkenny13's Avatar
    completely agree with the OP. if there's one thing i hate doing is .. redoing the entire process from scratch. speaking of which.. i don't mind doing this process if they allowed to me select all the apps and do it in one go. btw is adopatable storage official? you have to do it via the hack right?
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    06-29-2016 11:50 AM
  9. Aquila's Avatar
    It supports moving apps as much as it did in Lollipop. It's just not as easy. The support for adaptable storage is even more questionable. Any helpful suggestions out there?

    Yea, heavy, and a bottle of bread.
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    06-29-2016 01:26 PM
  10. Golfdriver97's Avatar
    What do you mean "if they could"? Don't you believe your own eyes? Would the option be available if it wasn't viable? It works just the same as it did in Lollipop.

    Yea, heavy, and a bottle of bread.
    First, I don't have an S7. Second, I have seen numerous instances where what I outlined is true. Also, if the app can be moved, only a portion of the app can be, and it's all at the discretion of the developer.

    8 things to know about the Samsung Galaxy S7's SD card slot http://www.androidcentral.com/things...s-sd-card-slot
    06-29-2016 01:28 PM
  11. Aquila's Avatar
    Also, if the app can be moved, only a portion of the app can be, and it's all at the discretion of the developer.
    That's how it works on Marshmallow and how it worked on Lollipop for Samsung devices.
    06-29-2016 01:28 PM
  12. thecomicbookandme's Avatar
    P.U.P.P.A.H
    (Be Polite, Understanding, Patient, Professional, Attentive and Helpful)


    Be polite. We ask that you keep your language clean and polite.
    Be understanding and patient. You may be a power user or developer, but the person you’re talking to on the other end may be a complete newbie. Be patient, and provide all details possible if you’re posting about a problem (descriptive thread title always helps).
    Be a pro. Don’t get into arguments over dumb things. If someone responds in a poor or rude fashion, ignore it. If you notice a pattern of rude or poor behavior from a particular member, report them to our moderators. If you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything at all. In a nutshell, ‘think before you post’.
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    I agree completely, and apologize if I offended anyone. I just object to people who have nothing helpful to add, and deny the facts before them.

    Yea, heavy, and a bottle of bread.
    06-29-2016 01:53 PM
  13. Aquila's Avatar
    I agree completely, and apologize if I offended anyone. I just object to people who have nothing helpful to add, and deny the facts before them.

    Yea, heavy, and a bottle of bread.
    No worries, you didn't offend anyone. Just a reminder we're all after the same thing, if we can help we will. Please understand we deal with questions from all levels of expertise and never know quite which level you are at without trying some answers that are common and having a conversation about it. You're all good.
    06-29-2016 01:59 PM
  14. thecomicbookandme's Avatar
    First, I don't have an S7. Second, I have seen numerous instances where what I outlined is true. [/url]
    This doesn't only apply to the S7 (although this is the S7edge forum page). It applies to Android Marshmallow 6.0.1. I never stated that the entire app was moved. I was very clear in saying that it works just like Lollipop. Your question as to whether the app or a portion of the app "could" actually be moved was in error, as well as a direct contradiction of an accurate statement that I made, and I felt the necessity to correct you. I'm sorry if I offended anyone, but I find unhelpful, incorrect statements made on the forum something that needs to be addressed.
    Anyway, back to my original question. Does anyone know of an application (not Clean Master) that includes a handy little check list (similar to the one found in Lollipop) that would make it easier to move updated apps (or a portion thereof, just to be clear) back to the SD card after updates. Any helpful suggestions would be appreciated.

    Yea, heavy, and a bottle of bread.
    06-29-2016 02:05 PM
  15. chanchan05's Avatar
    It supports moving apps as much as it did in Lollipop. It's just not as easy. The support for adaptable storage is even more questionable, as it isn't even available through the OS. Any helpful suggestions out there?

    Yea, heavy, and a bottle of bread.
    And Lollipop does not also officially support SD cards. Android itself stopped officially supporting SD cards as of ICS. What you're seeing is a legacy option Samsung deliberately enables themselves, but something the main OS itself isn't anymore coded to support. The code there that enables moving to SD card is something that hasn't been changed since Gingerbread. That's the main issue with the apps moving back to onboard storage after an update. The OS is coded to have the app stored on the onboard memory, not the SD card. And adoptable storage on a Samsung has been found that only the UI switch has been disabled. It's still there. You just need ADB to switch it on.
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    06-29-2016 04:24 PM
  16. thecomicbookandme's Avatar
    And Lollipop does not also officially support SD cards. Android itself stopped officially supporting SD cards as of ICS. What you're seeing is a legacy option Samsung deliberately enables themselves, but something the main OS itself isn't anymore coded to support. The code there that enables moving to SD card is something that hasn't been changed since Gingerbread. That's the main issue with the apps moving back to onboard storage after an update. The OS is coded to have the app stored on the onboard memory, not the SD card. And adoptable storage on a Samsung has been found that only the UI switch has been disabled. It's still there. You just need ADB to switch it on.
    I appreciate the information. I wasn't around for Gingerbread, but I know for a fact that Kit Kat allowed partial app storage without the hassle we have to go through now. It did it automatically. I also know that it works. And I ask you, if this option is so outdated why do they include it in the first place? And why is adaptable storage, if it's so much better, not included in the OS? By the way, all I wanted was help finding an app that will make it easier to move partial applications back to the SD card after an update.
    Thanks for helping. 😵

    "The obligation of a Warrior is impecability." - Don Genero
    Yea, heavy, and a bottle of bread.
    06-29-2016 04:32 PM
  17. Aquila's Avatar
    Adoptable storage basically encrypts your SD card and treats it like internal storage. The upside is just about everything can be stored on it - the down side is the card is useless in all other device; it's readable only by the specific device that it's formatted by.
    06-29-2016 04:41 PM
  18. Golfdriver97's Avatar
    I took a peek at Play, and found this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/d....gphone.app2sd

    But it doesn't clearly say that it lists them. I found one that seemed like it did but it was a root only app.

    There is an ADB command that can force the adoption of SD cards (I don't know it offhand) but I wouldn't suggest that. Forcing it to work can bring possible problems into the OS. Samsung left it disabled for a reason.
    06-29-2016 04:43 PM
  19. thecomicbookandme's Avatar
    The app you linked me to is just the ticket! 😂
    It found an app I missed before when I went through them all manually. It also included itself, as I hadn't a chance to move it yet. Problem solved. Thanks a lot.
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    06-29-2016 04:44 PM
  20. chanchan05's Avatar
    I appreciate the information. I wasn't around for Gingerbread, but I know for a fact that Kit Kat allowed partial app storage without the hassle we have to go through now. I also know that it works. And I ask you, if this option is so outdated why do they include it in the first place? And why is adaptable storage, if it's so much better, not included in the OS? By the way, all I wanted was help finding an app that will make it easier to move partial applications back to the SD card after an update.
    Thanks for helping. 😵

    "The obligation of a Warrior is impecability." - Don Genero
    Yea, heavy, and a bottle of bread.
    It's a decision made by Samsung which I cannot answer for. There was a time back during Kitkat days that Samsung was the only manufacturer to retain the move to SD card option on the phone. I think up to now, they still are the only ones. Other manufacturers would need to user to download something like Apps2SD or Link2SD from the Play Store to partially transfer thr apps. I do not know if either app supports mass moving to SD card.

    Moving to SD card is in my personal opinion safer than adoptable storage due to how adoptable storage is done and what happens should anything go wrong. From what I gather that's what Samsung believes too, based on statements they released as to why they hid the toggle. It can of course be prevented by having frequent backups. However the issue you are facing is simply because the feature is something that hasn't been supported for several years hence there will obviously be bugs now.
    06-29-2016 05:10 PM
  21. chanchan05's Avatar
    The app you linked me to is just the ticket! 😂
    It found an app I missed before when I went through them all manually. It also included itself, as I hadn't a chance to move it yet. Problem solved. Thanks a lot.
    Activating the adoptable storage doesn't need root. It was never disabled or removed by Samsung. They just hid the switch. ADB simply skips the UI switch and uses code to activate it.

    Edit: nvm. It seems you were responding to something else.
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    06-29-2016 05:12 PM
  22. LordAndroid's Avatar
    Just for the record Android OS mainly 6.0.1does work with SD card & adaptable storage. My nvivida shield tablet out of the box as soon as I inserted a SD card it prompted me if I wanted to use it as my main storage drive. Same with the HTC 10. Why Samsung didn't offer this great feature just frustrates me. One set back with the 2016 S line. Clearly other Android OEMs offer adaptable storage with SD cards in 2016
    06-29-2016 07:14 PM
  23. chanchan05's Avatar
    Just for the record Android OS mainly 6.0.1does work with SD card & adaptable storage. My nvivida shield tablet out of the box as soon as I inserted a SD card it prompted me if I wanted to use it as my main storage drive. Same with the HTC 10. Why Samsung didn't offer this great feature just frustrates me. One set back with the 2016 S line. Clearly other Android OEMs offer adaptable storage with SD cards in 2016
    Actually, LG (2nd biggest Android manufacturer) also does not offer adoptable storage out of the box.

    This is a pretty big update, and personally I'd think it's better that they didn't enable it immediately for regular users. The problem with it is most people just buy a cheap SD card, or use the older SD card for it. This would lead to several problems. First is the speed of the card. Even the fastest SD card available is not as fast as the NAND flash drive inside the phone. Using a cheap class 4 card as adoptable storage will undoubtedly slow down the entire phone and all its operations. Second, using an older SD card puts you at risk with the eventual failure of the card. SD cards, like all flash storage, has a limited number of writes and erase before it starts to deteriorate/fail. Adoptable storage encrypts the card and treats it as an extension of the onboard storage. Should you use an old SD card and it fails, there is a big chance that the phone cannot be saved by anything less than a factory reset, and even if the phone could be used, the encrypted nature of the adopted card may render its contents unrecoverable.

    From what I understood about Samsung and LG in their statements, they did not want to spring such a feature on their casual users, and wait for it to be better documented so the users would know what they're getting into. Plus they supposedly believe that most of their users use the SD card for media anyway and believe that their choice wouldn't be a big deal for their customers. 40 million shipped units seems like that's true.
    06-29-2016 09:28 PM
  24. LordAndroid's Avatar
    Those of us that purchased a higher end SD card would love to have this option available to us but to agree with your point we arent a big enough percentage for Samsung to take us serious enough to give us this feature.
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    06-29-2016 09:33 PM
  25. thecomicbookandme's Avatar
    Hey Golfie, I just want to thank you again for directing me to this little app. I purchased the pro version because I didn't want the advertisements. The interface is excellent with everything you need to know as well as selectable themes, etc. There is also a notification option which advises you when there is an app that needs moving. Every thing I wanted in spades. 😆
    I also want to apologize for going off on you for no good reason. And I admire the fact that even though I was rude to you, you continued to try to help me. That shows class. You really came through for me. Thanks again.

    "The obligation of a Warrior is impecability." - Don Genero
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    06-30-2016 05:49 AM
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