I just want an unlocked bootloader. Since this is sold outside the carrier model, there should be some way to load some CM style or AOSP style roms.
But KNOX.
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I just want an unlocked bootloader. Since this is sold outside the carrier model, there should be some way to load some CM style or AOSP style roms.
I don't understand the obsession with my misuse of a word. It is bloat. My use of the term "carrier bloat" was simply out of habit. My point was about the bloat, not the source of the bloat.
I find bloat no less intrusive regardless of its source. I have already said and will repeat the word carrier should have been omitted from my remark. We are way off topic. I'm simply surprised there is any bloat at all in an unlocked phone directly from manufacturer. I didn't know they did that. I would simply edit the post except it has already been quoted so what is the point.
Is bloat somehow less troublesome if from one huge corporation rather than another? You still cannot uninstall it. That's what makes it bloat.
I should add a thank you for the explanation. I should have said manufacturer bloat or just bloat. I just got steamed that the discussion went off on a tangent about my clear misuse of a phrase I used out of habit.
Yup you're right. Thanks.I wouldn't say obsession just .. people try not to have bad information on the forums. People come here to discover things so we want to explain the different in "bloat" so when they come they can get their questions answered. It's cool you see stuff as bloat .. That is for you though. Not everyone will agree on what you say is bloat but we can all agree the carrier placed apps are bloat for pretty much everyone. I doubt most pay for VZW Navigator when they can just use Google Maps for free. That type of stuff.
I don't understand the obsession with my misuse of a word. It is bloat. My use of the term "carrier bloat" was simply out of habit. My point was about the bloat, not the source of the bloat.
I find bloat no less intrusive regardless of its source. I have already said and will repeat the word carrier should have been omitted from my remark. We are way off topic. I'm simply surprised there is any bloat at all in an unlocked phone directly from manufacturer. I didn't know they did that. I would simply edit the post except it has already been quoted so what is the point.
Is bloat somehow less troublesome if from one huge corporation rather than another? You still cannot uninstall it. That's what makes it bloat.
I should add a thank you for the explanation. I should have said manufacturer bloat or just bloat. I just got steamed that the discussion went off on a tangent about my clear misuse of a phrase I used out of habit.
Yep well said... agree completely. The only thing the unlocked model is trying to achieve is carrier free software and unlocked sim. Other than that everything else is same as the other models.I prefer saying additions, but if you prefer to call it "bloat" then sure... There is Google bloat, manufacturer bloat and Carrier bloat.
The phone is advertised as carrier free, and it is free of carrier bloat. It isn't a gpe edition or a Google phone, so it should not be surprising that it has manufacturer bloat.
There is no missing feature on the unlocked version at least for using on T-Mobile. If you are talking Verizon then yes for sure it's missing stuff because it's useless Verizon special stuff which isn't available in other unlocked models like 6p as well probably.
Yeah based on the bars looks like little weak, but not sure if there is any difference in signal strength. I haven't checked and compared the signal strengths.Do you notice any difference in signal with this phone on T-Mobile? Mine seems a little weak.
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I'm assuming you can use on an MVNO (Cricket, ST etc.)?
I'm assuming you can use on an MVNO (Cricket, ST etc.)?
YesSo this absolutely positively supports Band 12 on Tmobile...right?