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  1. Daniel Barrett's Avatar
    So here's what my usage looks like since I fully charged last night. I'm assuming the issue is the Android OS is staying awake. Any way to figure out what might be causing it to stay awake besides uninstalling each app?

    Battery dies incredibly fast lately-1484139532155.jpgBattery dies incredibly fast lately-1484139537392.jpg
    01-11-2017 07:01 AM
  2. N4Newbie's Avatar
    Android OS and Android System are meaningless in the context of battery usage stats. Every android-based app uses both to perform 90% of the app's tasks. It's hard to explain unless you are a programmer but, for example, when a calculator app needs to add 2 + 2, it doesn't do so directly - it calls a system-level subroutine to perform the actual calculation. Same for memory management, keyboard management, screen reading and display, audio input/output, etc., etc.

    The problem is that the Facebook apps are - once again - probably hung up in the background or stuck in a loop. This is not the first time Facebook apps have had this problem.
    01-11-2017 07:37 AM
  3. Daniel Barrett's Avatar
    Android OS and Android System are meaningless in the context of battery usage stats. Every android-based app uses both to perform 90% of the app's tasks. It's hard to explain unless you are a programmer but, for example, when a calculator app needs to add 2 + 2, it doesn't do so directly - it calls a system-level subroutine to perform the actual calculation. Same for memory management, keyboard management, screen reading and display, audio input/output, etc., etc.

    The problem is that the Facebook apps are - once again - probably hung up in the background or stuck in a loop. This is not the first time Facebook apps have had this problem.
    Sure, I can understand what you're saying. Anything you can recommend to figure out what's causing the Android OS/System to use so much battery? Like for example if it is Facebook keeping the OS awake is there anywhere on my phone that can say, okay Facebook is using 'x' percentage of the OS usage?

    I'm going to uninstall Facebook and Messenger tonight and see if the battery drains with it completely uninstalled because logging off didn't work.
    01-11-2017 07:46 AM
  4. Almeuit's Avatar
    01-11-2017 10:31 AM
  5. hoonigandad's Avatar
    Same here it killed my battery in 3 hours yesterday! Luckily I can swap batteries (lg g4) . I turned off background data for Facebook and installed greenify and I've had no problems since.
    01-11-2017 11:24 AM
  6. pkcable's Avatar
    Facebook, and Facebook messenger are infamous battery killers. They are always the first thing I remove when I work on someone's phone, IF they can stand it. (I'm the family tech, lol) A good compromise is just making a shortcut to the mobile facebook page on one of your homescreens, and then just checking it when you have a mind to. Open Chrome, navigate to http://m.facebook.com then click on the more (or three dots) menu, then select add to homescreen.
    01-11-2017 03:10 PM
  7. N4Newbie's Avatar
    Facebook, and Facebook messenger are infamous battery killers. They are always the first thing I remove when I work on someone's phone, IF they can stand it. (I'm the family tech, lol) A good compromise is just making a shortcut to the mobile facebook page on one of your homescreens, and then just checking it when you have a mind to. Open Chrome, navigate to http://m.facebook.com then click on the more (or three dots) menu, then select add to homescreen.
    I agree; I go to facebook.com in the Chrome browser.

    The only downside is that you can no longer message/chat from the mobile web site; for that, you *have* to install Messenger. The only workaround seems to be to request the desktop site but that is quite difficult to work with even on a large-screen device.
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    01-11-2017 03:18 PM
  8. Stwutter's Avatar
    I agree with lots of the above re. FB and what not.

    However, Android System should not be top of the list at all, unless you phone has been used very little. Unless you're hammering a particular app. (an intensive game, for example), screen is almost always top of the list along with that app. Under normal usage (whatever that is...), SOT time should almost always be top. Some exceptions may be if you're downloading/streaming lots of content, or have particularly poor network coverage.

    This is why I ditched my S7E a few months ago. I had an update, and for 3 weeks Android System was top, often nearly double my SOT. It was my 9th or 10th Android phone, and the first to have done this. I did resets, cache cleardowns, flashed ROMs from weeks/months before and from all over Europe. Nothing worked. I went from 24hrs+ off the charger with 5-6hrs SOT, to 16-20 with 3-4hrs max.

    This, of course, may have been carrier related, and particular to me (the paranoid in me noticed the update/Android System drain coincided with being smack-bang in the middle of the Note 7 furore...), but I got sick of it.
    01-12-2017 06:35 AM
  9. N4Newbie's Avatar
    I agree with lots of the above re. FB and what not.

    However, Android System should not be top of the list at all, unless you phone has been used very little. Unless you're hammering a particular app. (an intensive game, for example), screen is almost always top of the list along with that app. Under normal usage (whatever that is...), SOT time should almost always be top. ...
    But, in the absence of screen on time, then Android OS and Android System typically *will* be at the top of the list. And remember, *every* app relies on both Android OS and Android System for core services.
    01-12-2017 07:58 AM
  10. Stwutter's Avatar
    But, in the absence of screen on time, then Android OS and Android System typically *will* be at the top of the list. And remember, *every* app relies on both Android OS and Android System for core services.
    Absolutely. The *absence* of SOT time will result in Android OS/System being top.

    However, the absence of SOT would mean the phone is being used *very* sparingly. Most peoples usual day-to-day usage involves using the screen to *look* at stuff, as it's a *phone*. But *thanks* for reiterating my points again.
    01-12-2017 08:10 AM
  11. delco714's Avatar
    Why is this thread still going? The issue disappeared In the evening that day..I literally did nothing and it fixed itself
    01-12-2017 09:11 AM
  12. Stwutter's Avatar
    Why is this thread still going? The issue disappeared In the evening that day..I literally did nothing and it fixed itself
    Maybe as you're not the OP, and other people are finding it useful still?

    I saw a post on AC earlier asking to DL someone's new game about Cows, so I imagine the Admin's have bigger fish to fry.
    01-12-2017 09:23 AM
  13. Sean Fanelli's Avatar
    It's starting to happen again..Android system is going rouge...Might just have to wait it out again, or does someone have a fix this time?
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    04-17-2017 09:06 PM
  14. Bruins11's Avatar
    I'm having major battery issues. Can someone help?
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    04-26-2017 09:04 AM
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