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  1. ticketbabe2's Avatar
    05-16-2017 02:30 PM
  2. scrondar's Avatar
    If people hate the new update, and would rather whine than sell or trade the phone, why not learn how to root the phone..
    What you call "whining" we call Google screwing up a perfectly good OS (Marshmallow) in favor of change for change's sake; name one good, must have feature in Nougat (silence....). And if you are still under warranty (as many of us are), rooting voids it. Rooting is not rocket science, we know this, and you are NOT helping.
    05-16-2017 07:04 PM
  3. scrondar's Avatar
    I created an account just to voice my displeasure with the new update....I think we're done here, Samsung. I finally gave in, and you blew it.
    Don't blame the hardware manufacturer; they only made the device. Blame Google and your provider; they are the ones who created a new, useless OS and let the providers load it up with garbage no one wants or needs. I agree with you on how bad N is, but point your finger in the right direction. And personally, I would rather stay with Marshmallow the rest of my smartphone days than stumble into Apple's walled garden, lost forever to a mindless cult.
    05-16-2017 07:14 PM
  4. grunt0300's Avatar
    There are numerous youtube videos showing you how to go back to MM. You don't need root, just a pc.
    05-17-2017 06:16 PM
  5. scrondar's Avatar
    There are numerous youtube videos showing you how to go back to MM.
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    Heh, which ought to tell us something about how well received N was. Nope, stayin' put.
    05-17-2017 07:11 PM
  6. Aquila's Avatar
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    Heh, which ought to tell us something about how well received N was. Nope, stayin' put.
    Unfortunately that doesn't tell us anything. There are a number of videos on how to decapitate and then paint my Little pony toys to make them evil. But far less than 1% of people do that. Similar to the far less than 1% of people freaking out about a software update. Not saying there aren't people having legitimate difficulty, but the vast, vast, vast majority of people don't care at all or appreciate the upgrade.
    05-17-2017 08:45 PM
  7. Aquila's Avatar
    Don't blame the hardware manufacturer; they only made the device. Blame Google and your provider; they are the ones who created a new, useless OS and let the providers load it up with garbage no one wants or needs. I agree with you on how bad N is, but point your finger in the right direction. And personally, I would rather stay with Marshmallow the rest of my smartphone days than stumble into Apple's walled garden, lost forever to a mindless cult.
    This is totally backwards. Google makes the base OS, but the OEM, in this case Samsung, is the one creating 90% of what Samsung users are interacting with. The AOSP builds that Google releases barely even have a UI and almost all of the complaints we've seen have been UI/UX.
    underway99 likes this.
    05-18-2017 09:20 AM
  8. Golfdriver97's Avatar
    they are the ones who created a new, useless OS
    To add to what Aquila said, Vanilla Android that is found on Pixel/Nexus Devices is skinned a little bit. In this case, Samsung adds a lot of changes to the base code.
    05-18-2017 09:25 AM
  9. Aquila's Avatar
    name one good, must have feature in Nougat (silence....)
    Seamless updates - oh wait, Samsung didn't implement this; only Google did. Improved Doze. Improved notification handling. Overhaul of many security features, including granting and revoking single permissions from apps as the user's choice, etc, etc. There are pages and pages of improvements, most of which are just quality of life improvements, but the ones above are some of the most important ones to me.

    Many of the complaints are regarding SAMSUNG'S implementation of the OS. I saw no significant difference on my Nexus 6P when I installed the Nougat update. Samsung makes the final design decision on updates for it's devices and those decisions often involve significant changes from the way the OS is on Nexus or other more "pure" devices.
    This is still true ^^
    05-18-2017 09:26 AM
  10. Golfdriver97's Avatar
    @grunt0300 no need to root to re-flash an old firmware version. Just need to follow the directions here: http://forums.androidcentral.com/amb...interface.html

    It should be noted that neither rooting nor that guide is for a novice. If one step is done wrong it could render the device unusable and a backup of all data that is cared about should be done before either process.
    On behalf of Rukbat, thanks for linking to the Odin guide. To add to your post, users considering this move, be advised; Samsung sometimes updates, and adds a change to the bootloader to prevent rolling back to previous updates.
    05-18-2017 09:39 AM
  11. scrondar's Avatar
    To add to what Aquila said, Vanilla Android that is found on Pixel/Nexus Devices is skinned a little bit. In this case, Samsung adds a lot of changes to the base code.
    I'll say they do. My Nexus 7 was the "purest" Android device I've yet owned, with only Gapps placed front and center. Boy, do I miss that tablet. Though, I must say that both Verizon and Samsung at least had the good taste to put all their crap in their own groups in the App Drawer on my Edge. I've NEVER opened either, and likely never will.
    05-18-2017 09:43 AM
  12. Aquila's Avatar
    On behalf of Rukbat, thanks for linking to the Odin guide. To add to your post, users considering this move, be advised; Samsung sometimes updates, and adds a change to the bootloader to prevent rolling back to previous updates.
    Yeah that's so weird to me. I can't figure out why they would want people to not be able to choose which OS they want unless there are critical security fixes.
    05-18-2017 09:46 AM
  13. Golfdriver97's Avatar
    Yeah that's so weird to me. I can't figure out why they would want people to not be able to choose which OS they want unless there are critical security fixes.
    A common supposition is to prevent rolling back to a version of Samsung's Android that was easier to root.
    Dngrsone likes this.
    05-18-2017 09:52 AM
  14. Fit24's Avatar
    I like the Nougat update. It took me a few days to adjust to the changes but otherwise I'm good to go.
    brad419 likes this.
    05-18-2017 02:23 PM
  15. chanchan05's Avatar
    Yeah. I don't know what you guys don't like about it, but my experience was Nougat>Marshmallow
    brad419 likes this.
    05-20-2017 10:10 AM
  16. MBS6's Avatar
    Nougat is not an improvement.
    07-29-2017 07:47 AM
  17. grunt0300's Avatar
    Nougat is not an improvement.

    OK, then use Odin and go back to MM. Check on xda-developers website for directions.
    07-29-2017 09:12 AM
  18. scrondar's Avatar
    I think it's a bit ironic that my S7 Edge (Verizon) nags the hell out of me to upgrade to Nougat (and, of course, will not go away after many, many refusals), but my 7" Tab A cannot even get to Marshmallow. Perhaps if I hold out long enough, I can skip Nougat and upgrade to whatever "O" is going to be called. Reminds me of Microsoft and Office; they just can't leave well enough alone. Office 2010 was just fine, but no, they had to go and screw it up with 2013 and now 2016. Sigh...
    ticketbabe2 likes this.
    07-29-2017 03:36 PM
  19. chanchan05's Avatar
    I think it's a bit ironic that my S7 Edge (Verizon) nags the hell out of me to upgrade to Nougat (and, of course, will not go away after many, many refusals), but my 7" Tab A cannot even get to Marshmallow. Perhaps if I hold out long enough, I can skip Nougat and upgrade to whatever "O" is going to be called. Reminds me of Microsoft and Office; they just can't leave well enough alone. Office 2010 was just fine, but no, they had to go and screw it up with 2013 and now 2016. Sigh...
    The 7inch Tab A is a budget device. By history alone, Samsung rarely updates the lowest end of their devices.
    07-29-2017 06:40 PM
  20. litchie's Avatar
    Boy ain't that the truth!
    My Note 5 is about be thrown into a wood chipper,it sucks man ,goid luck!
    07-29-2017 06:49 PM
  21. jejb's Avatar
    OK, then use Odin and go back to MM. Check on xda-developers website for directions.
    I also don't feel like Nougat is an improvement over MM in any way that I personally use my phone. But I won't go back, either. I think it's important to keep up with the security updates, and you can't do that if you're down level.
    07-30-2017 08:33 AM
  22. grunt0300's Avatar
    I also don't feel like Nougat is an improvement over MM in any way that I personally use my phone. But I won't go back, either. I think it's important to keep up with the security updates, and you can't do that if you're down level.

    Well, you can't have it both ways. If you really hate the phone, then trade it in.
    07-30-2017 08:45 AM
  23. Tomtomc's Avatar
    Hi I'm new here. I too have a 7 edge. Loved it until this latest update. While I can't comment on the iPhone analogy I can say I detest the new layout. I think the iPhone analogy might detract from what's happened. I do not like the way the settings look and feel. I hate what its done to my favourite contacts. I hate the world clock and alarm thing. While I doubt I'd ever go back to my iPhone I can say that I would not have purchased the 7edge if this is how it looked and felt at my time of purchase.
    07-30-2017 11:36 PM
  24. jejb's Avatar
    Well, you can't have it both ways. If you really hate the phone, then trade it in.
    Where did I say I hate the phone? I love my S7E. I just don't like Nougat compared to MM, which is what this thread is about. I also know I can't have it both ways, and have chosen my path. But that does not mean I have to like the Nougat interface.
    07-31-2017 04:48 AM
  25. NexusGirlX's Avatar
    I have three S7 Edge, two are T-Mobile versions and one is the US unlocked version.

    I held off upgrading the unlocked version up until about a month ago because I wanted to have a phone still on MM. I finally gave in and updated it to Nougat and really haven't regretted it. I don't really miss anything that MM did differently and I like that I can now clear app badge counts simply by long pressing on the app and then tapping clear badge count. The biggest change though is how the settings are now organized in the settings app. I end up searching for settings now where I used to know where the setting was in MM.

    Anyways, two of my thress S7 Edge phones are now sitting in a drawer. I have two of my three T-Mobile sims in a S7 Edge and a S8+ and the third is in an iPhone.
    07-31-2017 10:36 PM
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