03-05-2017 09:57 AM
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  1. cconn's Avatar
    Hi,

    So recently I had a chance to try an iPhone for a few days. While I'm not unhappy with the S7's battery life (I get about 4 hours of SOT with mixed usage, about 5+ if I do nothing but use the phone), but I couldn't held but notice how much better the iPhone's battery was - it was probably the only aspect of the phone that didn't seem to mesh with the reviews I've seen. SOT-wise, it seemed extremely comparable to the SOT I've been getting on my S7, and it's standby time was waaaaay better. With my S7, I get about 2-3% drain per hour, with the iPhone it was about 1% if that, and with far less power saving options enabled.

    So basically, my question is, do the results I'm getting seem accurate? Or have I maybe just been getting luck with the iPhone's battery life? If the battery's really that good now, I might consider switching on my next upgrade.
    01-12-2017 05:36 AM
  2. chanchan05's Avatar
    It's because the iPhone is using a more aggressive programming similar ti Doze in Android. Basically shuts everything down. On actual usage, Android has better battery, however if we're talking about standby time, Apple's MAY be better. But then again I run as low as 0.7% per hour standby on my S7 Edge.
    01-12-2017 06:08 AM
  3. cconn's Avatar
    I also have the sneaking suspicion that Apple and Samsung's battery measurements are different.

    My S7 will stay at 100% for about 2 minutes, the iPhone will stay at 100% for about 20 minutes.
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    01-12-2017 12:40 PM
  4. lcs101's Avatar
    It's because the iPhone is using a more aggressive programming similar ti Doze in Android. Basically shuts everything down. On actual usage, Android has better battery, however if we're talking about standby time, Apple's MAY be better. But then again I run as low as 0.7% per hour standby on my S7 Edge.
    As I shared in a thread I started awhile back, my iPhones did a ton better with cell standby when the signal is poor. And unfortunately, my signal is pretty poor at my house (between -105 to -115 typically). The difference in the impact on battery drain is quite significant.
    01-12-2017 12:47 PM
  5. Snappy Phoenix's Avatar
    Hi,

    So recently I had a chance to try an iPhone for a few days. While I'm not unhappy with the S7's battery life (I get about 4 hours of SOT with mixed usage, about 5+ if I do nothing but use the phone), but I couldn't held but notice how much better the iPhone's battery was - it was probably the only aspect of the phone that didn't seem to mesh with the reviews I've seen. SOT-wise, it seemed extremely comparable to the SOT I've been getting on my S7, and it's standby time was waaaaay better. With my S7, I get about 2-3% drain per hour, with the iPhone it was about 1% if that, and with far less power saving options enabled.

    So basically, my question is, do the results I'm getting seem accurate? Or have I maybe just been getting luck with the iPhone's battery life? If the battery's really that good now, I might consider switching on my next upgrade.
    iPhones also have outstanding standby time, charge an iPhone to 100% and charge any Samsung Phone to 100% then leave them idle for 2 hours, watch the iPhone remain at 100 or 99% while the Samsung phones go down to sub 90%

    I just gave my iPhone 7 256GB with the iPhone Battery Case to my wife as I couldn't stand iOS but that phone could go on for 3 days with no charge with that extra battery case
    01-12-2017 01:47 PM
  6. anon(1733)'s Avatar
    iPhones also have outstanding standby time, charge an iPhone to 100% and charge any Samsung Phone to 100% then leave them idle for 2 hours, watch the iPhone remain at 100 or 99% while the Samsung phones go down to sub 90%

    I just gave my iPhone 7 256GB with the iPhone Battery Case to my wife as I couldn't stand iOS but that phone could go on for 3 days with no charge with that extra battery case
    I have my 7 plus to my wife with Mophie case to my wife as well.
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    01-12-2017 02:43 PM
  7. joshwilks's Avatar
    I also have the sneaking suspicion that Apple and Samsung's battery measurements are different.

    My S7 will stay at 100% for about 2 minutes, the iPhone will stay at 100% for about 20 minutes.
    Interesting that you say that because my MacBook Pro stays at 100% for a lot longer than it should. I wonder why?
    01-12-2017 07:20 PM
  8. chanchan05's Avatar
    Interesting that you say that because my MacBook Pro stays at 100% for a lot longer than it should. I wonder why?
    In Doze mode, my S7 will stay at 100% for 30min (0.7% battery loss). On use, good luck to keep above 99% in 10min. It could just be the standby mode battery usage.
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    01-12-2017 07:49 PM
  9. Chris Connelly's Avatar
    Interesting that you say that because my MacBook Pro stays at 100% for a lot longer than it should. I wonder why?
    I'm betting it's Apple foiling around with the reporting to make their batteries seem better than they are.

    It seems like a very Apple thing to do.
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    01-12-2017 10:00 PM
  10. lcs101's Avatar
    In Doze mode, my S7 will stay at 100% for 30min (0.7% battery loss). On use, good luck to keep above 99% in 10min. It could just be the standby mode battery usage.
    I haven't figure out yet how to tell when my S7 is in Doze. Still new to the phone (and android).
    01-12-2017 11:22 PM
  11. Chris Connelly's Avatar
    I haven't figure out yet how to tell when my S7 is in Doze. Still new to the phone (and android).
    As far as I'm aware, the Doze that comes built into the phone only goes into effect when the phone's been idle and stationary for 30 minutes, so there's no real way you'll ever notice the built in Doze is on.

    But if you download the Doze app, that'll start the moment your screen goes off, and gives you the option of a notification that let's you know when it's been on.
    01-12-2017 11:24 PM
  12. chanchan05's Avatar
    As far as I'm aware, the Doze that comes built into the phone only goes into effect when the phone's been idle and stationary for 30 minutes, so there's no real way you'll ever notice the built in Doze is on.

    But if you download the Doze app, that'll start the moment your screen goes off, and gives you the option of a notification that let's you know when it's been on.
    The Doze app with the owl icon is not the same thing. They just happened to have the same name, but that app does not work the same way as the built in Doze. If you want to know when the phone is dozing, you can use Greenify's doze timers. Greenify also enables Aggressive Doze (starts in 10min instead of 30) , and Doze on the Go (Keeps on dozing even while moving).
    01-12-2017 11:41 PM
  13. cconn's Avatar
    You seem against the Doze (owl) app.
    01-13-2017 12:01 AM
  14. chanchan05's Avatar
    You seem against the Doze (owl) app.
    No. I'm not against it. I'm saying it's not the same as Android's Doze. The app just creates a dead end VPN so that the phone is not able to establish an internet connection, because an internet connection is the biggest battery drain in a phone. Basically, if you keep your data off anyway, the Doze app is actually an additional battery drain. If you keep your data on, it may help a bit, but that's all. The app is not Doze as Android or Greenify defines the Doze feature.
    01-13-2017 12:30 AM
  15. H2oflyer's Avatar
    You can also try AccuBattery which gives a good record of screen off time showing sleep (doze) time.
    01-13-2017 05:17 AM
  16. PauloPImenta's Avatar
    So is it a plus to have Greenify app running or is it better to leave the phone do its homework?
    01-13-2017 09:41 AM
  17. Aquila's Avatar
    Greenify is bad. Let Android do what it does
    01-13-2017 09:43 AM
  18. Dan TheMan86's Avatar
    With my S7, I get about 2-3% drain per hour, with the iPhone it was about 1% if that, and with far less power saving options enabled.
    Ha! I WISH I got that kind of drain per hour on my S7. It's typically around 5-15% depending on what I'm doing. Even when I'm out and about and hardly looking at my phone, its around 5%. My drain per hour stats are based off of pulling the phone off the charger at 100%. I never include any doze time overnight because that just inflates the stats and makes your drain per hour seem better. Drain per hour should really only be measured from 100% down to whatever % your phone is when you go to bed and stop using it.
    01-13-2017 10:15 AM
  19. Dan TheMan86's Avatar

    I just gave my iPhone 7 256GB with the iPhone Battery Case to my wife as I couldn't stand iOS but that phone could go on for 3 days with no charge with that extra battery case
    Good God...that has to be over $1000 worth of phone right there :O
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    01-13-2017 10:16 AM
  20. chanchan05's Avatar
    So is it a plus to have Greenify app running or is it better to leave the phone do its homework?
    The only thing you want Greenify to do is Aggressive Doze and Doze on the Go. It just triggers the phone to go into Doze earlier and keeps it there. Which will supposedly be not needed anymore on Nougat since it will have more Aggressive Dozing (lite Doze) and Doze on the Go.
    01-13-2017 10:19 AM
  21. Nostromo79's Avatar
    I also have the sneaking suspicion that Apple and Samsung's battery measurements are different.

    My S7 will stay at 100% for about 2 minutes, the iPhone will stay at 100% for about 20 minutes.
    Noticed my V20 will do this also; another aspect in how it differs from the V10.
    01-13-2017 11:26 AM
  22. cconn's Avatar
    This is neither here nor there, but since we're discussing standby time, I've noticed wifi effects my battery way worse than mobile data. Both at home and at work, my phone will drain way faster if I'm connected to wifi.

    Like how I said I usually get 2-3% per hour battery drain in standby? Last night I turned off my wifi before I went to bed, and my phone only lost about 5% in 6 hours.

    I suppose this is because the wifi isn't the greatest in either my home or at work, but it's still a pretty noticeable difference.
    01-13-2017 11:40 AM
  23. Snappy Phoenix's Avatar
    Good God...that has to be over $1000 worth of phone right there :O
    yeah $1200 USD man! it's the price of a freakin' laptop! What is the world coming to?

    iPhone 7+ 256GB is $1500 USD
    01-13-2017 01:34 PM
  24. chanchan05's Avatar
    This is neither here nor there, but since we're discussing standby time, I've noticed wifi effects my battery way worse than mobile data. Both at home and at work, my phone will drain way faster if I'm connected to wifi.

    Like how I said I usually get 2-3% per hour battery drain in standby? Last night I turned off my wifi before I went to bed, and my phone only lost about 5% in 6 hours.

    I suppose this is because the wifi isn't the greatest in either my home or at work, but it's still a pretty noticeable difference.
    I had that problem on the Aug to Nov updates. After the 300mb December update it became better.
    01-13-2017 05:46 PM
  25. 1901Madison's Avatar
    It's because the iPhone is using a more aggressive programming similar ti Doze in Android. Basically shuts everything down. On actual usage, Android has better battery, however if we're talking about standby time, Apple's MAY be better. But then again I run as low as 0.7% per hour standby on my S7 Edge.
    On standby, my Moto Z Play drains about 1 percent every 3 hours. Just incredible and far better than any iPhone. I understand the Z Play has really good battery life, but my point is that iPhones are not uniformly better on battery (even standby) than Android phones.
    01-13-2017 05:49 PM
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