08-14-2017 03:00 PM
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  1. Dooki's Avatar
    Washington State just passed a law stating that we can no longer handle cell phones, or anything else for that matter, while driving. Since I drive for a living I need to be able to use voice assistant without touching the phone.
    Samsung blocks GA from opening with the screen locked and s voice, while it does somewhat work is not reliable at all, it's junk basically. So I am going to see how well the note is and if they block it, or if bixby is any good by then. Otherwise it's the pixel 2.

    Of course, Samsung might actually allow us to use Google Assistant with the screen off. Not holding breath.
    07-30-2017 02:12 AM
  2. mhinc's Avatar
    Washington State just passed a law stating that we can no longer handle cell phones, or anything else for that matter, while driving. Since I drive for a living I need to be able to use voice assistant without touching the phone.
    Samsung blocks GA from opening with the screen locked and s voice, while it does somewhat work is not reliable at all, it's junk basically. So I am going to see how well the note is and if they block it, or if bixby is any good by then. Otherwise it's the pixel 2.

    Of course, Samsung might actually allow us to use Google Assistant with the screen off. Not holding breath.
    Have you tried
    https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...rivelink&hl=en
    07-30-2017 02:33 AM
  3. Dooki's Avatar
    not compatible.
    07-30-2017 02:43 AM
  4. dov1978's Avatar
    Plug your phone into the charger. Problem solved! Ok, Google only works when the phone is LOCKED IF it's charging. This is something Samsung implemented to save battery when always listening is enabled
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    07-30-2017 02:46 AM
  5. mhinc's Avatar
    not compatible.
    Ah, that sucks
    07-30-2017 02:46 AM
  6. Dooki's Avatar
    I've tried a few of those and none seem to override Samsung lockdown on voice assistants.
    07-30-2017 03:00 AM
  7. Tim1954's Avatar
    All my phones work fine in my jeep with Uconnect. Put Bluetooth on, sit it on the wireless charging pad, put the lid down and away I go. We can't use devices here either (Australia). I get messages, I can call ppl, play music and navigate with it. All hands free...
    07-30-2017 03:20 AM
  8. Jaycemiskel's Avatar
    If I were you, I would use Android Auto. You can now use it as a standalone app on your phone. The screen stays on and you can use ok Google to make calls and even have it read your messages. That's what I do on my S8 since they block always listening. Plus having Android Auto activated makes it less likely that I'll grab my phone. Everything is easy to control by voice.
    07-30-2017 04:07 AM
  9. Dooki's Avatar
    Plug your phone into the charger. Problem solved! Ok, Google only works when the phone is LOCKED IF it's charging. This is something Samsung implemented to save battery when always listening is enabled
    It is supposed to work when plugged in but it rarely does, and when if it does it only works once. Plus I am not going to be constantly plugging and unplugging my phone to get something to work that should anyway.
    Samsung may state they implemented it to save battery but that is a blatant lie. If it were true then svoice would not work with the screen locked. Plus every other android phone doesn't seem to have a battery issue when it comes to assistant.
    07-30-2017 05:14 AM
  10. Dooki's Avatar
    If I were you, I would use Android Auto. You can now use it as a standalone app on your phone. The screen stays on and you can use ok Google to make calls and even have it read your messages. That's what I do on my S8 since they block always listening. Plus having Android Auto activated makes it less likely that I'll grab my phone. Everything is easy to control by voice.
    Tried it, it doesn't work with our messenger app, nor does it work with our business app that needs to be constantly used.
    07-30-2017 05:18 AM
  11. dov1978's Avatar
    It is supposed to work when plugged in but it rarely does, and when if it does it only works once. Plus I am not going to be constantly plugging and unplugging my phone to get something to work that should anyway.
    Samsung may state they implemented it to save battery but that is a blatant lie. If it were true then svoice would not work with the screen locked. Plus every other android phone doesn't seem to have a battery issue when it comes to assistant.
    I can't disagree with you there. Especially when like you say S-Voice works with the screen off and now Bixby Voice does too for those lucky enough to have it right now on the s8
    07-30-2017 05:51 AM
  12. Dooki's Avatar
    I wouldn't have a problem using bixby but I am assuming it only runs Samsung app. can't take notes and have it same to keep. Samsung has a decent note taking app but it isn't cross platform. can't hop on my Chromebook or PC and look them up. that's my biggest issue, not that Samsung has bad apps just that they don't migrate cross platform. sounds like some other os hmm 🍎
    07-30-2017 05:57 AM
  13. Jaycemiskel's Avatar
    Tried it, it doesn't work with our messenger app, nor does it work with our business app that needs to be constantly used.
    So it let's you control it by voice normally? In my experience, every app that works with ok Google normally still works in Android Auto. That's strange. Yeah, looks like you'll need to switch manufacturers.
    07-30-2017 06:06 AM
  14. TwitchyPuppy's Avatar
    that's my biggest issue, not that Samsung has bad apps just that they don't migrate cross platform. sounds like some other os hmm
    If I need my Notes on my Windows PC, I log into icloud.com from my web browser and have access to them. It’s even possible to edit them!

    So, you were saying?
    07-30-2017 07:31 AM
  15. Ca_lvn's Avatar
    Sounds like the second generation pixel might be for you
    07-30-2017 08:59 AM
  16. stmax's Avatar
    I know it isn't ideal but would one work around be to assign a hot word to s-voice to only wake it up.Then you continue by using GA.

    Eg. Assign "Computer" or "Jarvis" to get s-voice to wake it up then once the phone is awake use "Ok Google" to do your tasks.
    07-30-2017 09:56 AM
  17. Doug Moffat's Avatar
    Doesn't sound like Samsung or Google is your problem..
    07-30-2017 11:31 AM
  18. Dooki's Avatar
    If I need my Notes on my Windows PC, I log into icloud.com from my web browser and have access to them. It’s even possible to edit them!

    So, you were saying?
    Sounds like you are saying to get an iPhone. They only problem is that the app we use isn't available on iOS. So instead of having everyone set up a new iCloud account for work we can just use a free and reliable app that is already logged into all of our devices.
    07-30-2017 12:12 PM
  19. Dooki's Avatar
    Thought about that but s voice is to unreliable that I usually have to turn the screen on and manually open it anyway.
    07-30-2017 12:14 PM
  20. Dooki's Avatar
    Doesn't sound like Samsung or Google is your problem..
    Actually, Google isn't problem at all. My work Moto z play droid works flawlessly and has for a year. But I had to give it up because I changed position. So does the Moto g5+ I got my mother. They both work without a problem every time. But the camera is so bad I don't want a Moto as my personal phone. But that battery life, oh do nice. And Samsung pay is something I use everyday to I don't want to give up Samsung. That is why I am waiting on the note to see what happens.

    Sometimes there is a line where you just have to move on, like it or not. And since I drive for a living getting tickets can cost me my job.
    07-30-2017 12:25 PM
  21. Ca_lvn's Avatar
    California passed the no phone or electronic law a long time ago and it really makes no difference you see almost every one using daily they really need to crack down more.
    Between school out for the Sumner with teen drivers and phone use its the highest time of year for accidents
    07-30-2017 03:56 PM
  22. Dooki's Avatar
    California passed the no phone or electronic law a long time ago and it really makes no difference you see almost every one using daily they really need to crack down more.
    Between school out for the Sumner with teen drivers and phone use its the highest time of year for accidents
    Very true but I drive a commercial truck and State patrol loves to get us on even very minor infractions.
    07-30-2017 06:54 PM
  23. illdini's Avatar
    Why not use a Bluetooth earpiece + Trusted Devices?
    07-30-2017 10:31 PM
  24. Jaycemiskel's Avatar
    Actually, Google isn't problem at all. My work Moto z play droid works flawlessly and has for a year. But I had to give it up because I changed position. So does the Moto g5+ I got my mother. They both work without a problem every time. But the camera is so bad I don't want a Moto as my personal phone. But that battery life, oh do nice. And Samsung pay is something I use everyday to I don't want to give up Samsung. That is why I am waiting on the note to see what happens.

    Sometimes there is a line where you just have to move on, like it or not. And since I drive for a living getting tickets can cost me my job.
    I can almost guarantee you that the Note will be no different. Samsung is blocking ok Google on purpose. It's somewhat annoying.
    07-30-2017 11:49 PM
  25. Dooki's Avatar
    Why not use a Bluetooth earpiece + Trusted Devices?
    Because it still won't work. Trusted devices has nothing to do with the lock screen, just the password/fps.
    07-31-2017 12:55 AM
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