03-22-2017 09:28 AM
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  1. BlackZeppelin's Avatar
    I am fascinated about the con regarding how the battery capacities are being improved for the S8 and S8 plus models. And all based on a false notion.

    There are 2 rumours floating around for the battery sizes, so I will assume the larger battery sizes for sake of argument. All the internet articles are falsely saying how battery capacities are increasing compared to the S7 and S7 edge.

    The erroneous argument is this: The S8 will be of a similar physical size to the S7 and the battery goes from 3000 to 3250mah. Again, I am assuming the larger rumour capacity. But this is completely wrong. Overall, the capacity is going down. Because even though the physical sizes are similar, the screen sizes are not. And this is what counts in battery drain. The S7 and S8 may be about the same size, but the actual screen goes from 5.1 to 5.8 inches.

    That is a big increase in screen size with the battery only slightly increasing. As I say, it doesn't matter if the physical size stays the same. And other rumours are saying the S8 stays at 3000 mah.

    It's the same for the S7 edge and S8 plus. Again, all the internet articles are saying how capacity goes up as the 2 phones are about the same size. But the S7 edge has a screen size of 5.5 inches and 3600 mah battery, whist the S8 plus increases the actual screen size considerably to 6.2 inches whilst the battery goes to just 3700 mah. Other rumours say 3500 mah.

    What is wrong with all these internet writers? Common sense tells you to compare screen sizes to battery capacities, not the overall physical sizes. If you do this, the coming S8 models are going down in battery capacities.

    Which is a bummer.
    02-12-2017 06:29 AM
  2. ThrottleJohnny's Avatar
    A lot of the sites I've read have called out the smaller batteries, especially in the regular S8.
    02-12-2017 08:37 AM
  3. Jaycemiskel's Avatar
    Well capacity only refers to how much battery power is available. So the capacity has gone up if the rumors of bigger batteries are correct. However, you're right, the screens are getting bigger, so I don't think the batteries have gotten big enough to offer more longevity from a single charge which sucks. I'm with you man.
    killburndestroy likes this.
    02-12-2017 09:27 AM
  4. wolfedude88's Avatar
    another thing to consider is the power consumption from a newer more efficient processor, makes for longer lasting batteries.
    02-12-2017 07:06 PM
  5. ThrottleJohnny's Avatar
    another thing to consider is the power consumption from a newer more efficient processor, makes for longer lasting batteries.
    Agreed. Either way, I'll wait for some hands on reviews before I make my decision.
    02-12-2017 07:46 PM
  6. csiguy1's Avatar
    Why can't these manufacturers understand that long lasting battery and onboard memory are the two biggest things that cell phone users need and want.
    Sammuel1973 and eshropshire like this.
    02-12-2017 08:32 PM
  7. Jaycemiskel's Avatar
    I honestly think that they do it so we can want to upgrade the next year. No other reason I can think of.
    02-12-2017 09:57 PM
  8. ThrottleJohnny's Avatar
    I don't think that's it. I think it's just the fact that flagships want thinner phones. You can only go so big with phones as thin and compact as they are today.

    The only way around it is to fully optimize the OS the way Apple and Google do.
    02-12-2017 10:18 PM
  9. Cakefish's Avatar
    Newer SOC at 10nm = more efficient.
    Newer generation of AMOLED display = possibly improving power efficiency over S7 panels.

    It's quite possible that battery life will be the same or slightly better than the S7 models.
    02-13-2017 09:28 AM
  10. ThrottleJohnny's Avatar
    Newer SOC at 10nm = more efficient.
    Newer generation of AMOLED display = possibly improving power efficiency over S7 panels.

    It's quite possible that battery life will be the same or slightly better than the S7 models.
    I agree with this. But people get too caught up in stats. Technically, you could put a 4000mah battery in the S8 and still wind up with subpar battery life. It's also about efficiency
    02-13-2017 06:10 PM
  11. Jaycemiskel's Avatar
    I don't think that's it. I think it's just the fact that flagships want thinner phones. You can only go so big with phones as thin and compact as they are today.

    The only way around it is to fully optimize the OS the way Apple and Google do.
    But the public isn't clamoring for thinner phones. They certainly aren't complaining about millimeters which added just one could certainly help with battery size.
    Sammuel1973 likes this.
    02-13-2017 07:00 PM
  12. Morty2264's Avatar
    Don't fret just yet! Once we get to see what these devices are like in action, we'll have a better idea of how good their battiers are/will be.
    02-13-2017 07:10 PM
  13. ThrottleJohnny's Avatar
    But the public isn't clamoring for thinner phones. They certainly aren't complaining about millimeters which added just one could certainly help with battery size.
    No they're not. Admittedly I'm not sure why the race to thinner phones is still a thing. It's got to be a tech designer thing.
    02-13-2017 07:16 PM
  14. offsidebowler's Avatar
    Why can't these manufacturers understand that long lasting battery and onboard memory are the two biggest things that cell phone users need and want.
    Battery yes, onboard memory I'm happy to compromise on. I'm not ashamed to admit looks are still very important to me.
    02-13-2017 07:25 PM
  15. ThrottleJohnny's Avatar
    Battery yes, onboard memory I'm happy to compromise on. I'm not ashamed to admit looks are still very important to me.
    I agree. I never would have picked an S7 if I weren't into looks. Absolutely blows me away to this day.
    02-13-2017 09:47 PM
  16. Nakrohtap's Avatar
    Looking at the renders of the dimensions on the other thread, the s8+ is smaller than the S7E in height and width. The thickness of the s8+ is ever so slightly thicker. It makes sense that the battery size is not increasing.
    02-14-2017 12:03 PM
  17. BlackZeppelin's Avatar
    Looking at the renders of the dimensions on the other thread, the s8+ is smaller than the S7E in height and width. The thickness of the s8+ is ever so slightly thicker. It makes sense that the battery size is not increasing.
    Not if the screen goes from 5.5 to 6.2 inches for the same body size. Extra screen means extra battery drain.
    02-14-2017 03:31 PM
  18. Nakrohtap's Avatar
    Not if the screen goes from 5.5 to 6.2 inches for the same body size. Extra screen means extra battery drain.
    Very minimal, if any. It would be offset by the lower power consumption of the SD 835.
    02-14-2017 09:39 PM
  19. ThrottleJohnny's Avatar
    Very minimal, if any. It would be offset by the lower power consumption of the SD 835.
    If it's anything like the A10 chip, we're in good hands.
    02-15-2017 08:39 AM
  20. aximtreo's Avatar
    Why can't these manufacturers understand that long lasting battery and onboard memory are the two biggest things that cell phone users need and want.
    And a faster processor and a great camera with oodles of pixels, and , and...
    The design team of any flagship phone has a tough job deciding what and how much to put into the device. Comparing to what was available 5 years ago to now is mind boggling.
    02-15-2017 09:43 AM
  21. Snareman's Avatar
    The battery on my N7 was wonderful, while the battery on my S7E is the worst of any phone I've owned and I can't wait to get rid of it. How much more battery size would they be able to add if they made the phone just 1mm thicker? Of course it would get heavier as well.
    02-15-2017 10:00 AM
  22. csiguy1's Avatar
    I don't care if my phone is the thinnest on the block. I need all day of hard use on my battery. I would strap a car battery to my phone if I could. I hate
    to recharge during the day. I like to unplug at 06:30 and still have battery life at 11:00pm when going to bed. Listening Samsung, Apple, Moto, etc.
    02-16-2017 09:58 PM
  23. Snareman's Avatar
    I don't care if my phone is the thinnest on the block. I need all day of hard use on my battery. I would strap a car battery to my phone if I could. I hate
    to recharge during the day. I like to unplug at 06:30 and still have battery life at 11:00pm when going to bed. Listening Samsung, Apple, Moto, etc.
    I don't think they are.
    02-17-2017 01:55 AM
  24. flyingkytez's Avatar
    Size doesn't always matter. I think nowdays it's more about efficiency. You can put a 5000mAh battery but if the software isn't optimized, then there's no point. Plus you'll end up with a thick and fat phone. Take the S7 Active for example. Thick phone and just OK battery performance. They need to optimize Samsung TouchWiz, there has always been issues with lag or battery drain. Think about why the Apple phones have better battery life despite smaller capacity.
    02-17-2017 02:39 AM
  25. donm527's Avatar
    I like to unplug at 06:30 and still have battery life at 11:00pm when going to bed. Listening Samsung, Apple, Moto, etc.
    That's exactly how my battery life was with my iPhone 6... Actually often I'd wake, get to work and then charge sometime in the morning because I didn't have to worry about absolutely having to charge at night.

    Using a Galaxy S6 for last couple of months while waiting on news of S8 or G6... painful. Unplug at 6:30 and I'm at 80% by 8-9am and I'm at 20% by 4-5pm and needing to plug into car charger after 7. Sad.
    02-17-2017 05:18 AM
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