DisplayMate gives the S8 the best screen rating of any smartphone

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Why argue about this? Anybody that sees the display on a Samsung versus an iPhone will always say Samsung. The reviews doesn't matter when it comes to likes. Samsung is not switching to LCD, Apple is switching to OLED (provided by Samsung).

Nerds gonna nerd. We have to talk about something. :p
 

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Accurate and best mean the same thing in displays unless there is a major problem, such as pixel configuration, display quality or power usage, etc.

This is a statement from
Raymond Soneira displaymate's President regarding the note 7 screen
Best screen ever tested period.
 

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This is a statement from
Raymond Soneira displaymate's President regarding the note 7 screen
Best screen ever tested period.

Sure, that doesn't actually say best screen ever tested, it says "most innovative and high-performance display that we have ever tested". Best means most accurate, most innovative and high-performance could mean anything, which is impossible to determine without the context.

If they did mean to say it's the best, then that could be because the Note 7 came out a month prior to the iPhone 7, so the Note 7 could have been the best display around, for a month.

According to Anandtech's results, that would be true so long as we were willing to ignore the iPhone SE's existence, which most of us probably are. This also leads to another mistake of theirs, if the S7 Edge was the previous winner at DisplayMate, they ignored the 5X, which is not as easy as ignoring the SE.

The only other way they could mean that it was the best, would be for them to not know what they're talking about. I think we give them the benefit of the doubt that they just hadn't tested the unreleased iPhone yet, but given the S7 mistake, we don't have to give them that benefit, we just can.


Why is it that whenever people say "blah blah blah, period" they're almost always wrong?
 

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Sure, that doesn't actually say best screen ever tested, it says "most innovative and high-performance display that we have ever tested". Best means most accurate, most innovative and high-performance could mean anything, which is impossible to determine without the context.

If they did mean to say it's the best, then that could be because the Note 7 came out a month prior to the iPhone 7, so the Note 7 could have been the best display around, for a month.

According to Anandtech's results, that would be true so long as we were willing to ignore the iPhone SE's existence, which most of us probably are. This also leads to another mistake of theirs, if the S7 Edge was the previous winner at DisplayMate, they ignored the 5X, which is not as easy as ignoring the SE.

The only other way they could mean that it was the best, would be for them to not know what they're talking about. I think we give them the benefit of the doubt that they just hadn't tested the unreleased iPhone yet, but given the S7 mistake, we don't have to give them that benefit, we just can.


Why is it that whenever people say "blah blah blah, period" they're almost always wrong?

So... The most innovative and
The most HIGH PERFORMING is ever tested is not the best???
 

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So... The most innovative and
The most HIGH PERFORMANCE is not ever tested is not the best???

That is correct, unless they meant it in the way described in the post you quoted. Because best = most accurate. So saying most high performance ever tested, if they do not mean best, doesn't have anything to do with best. If they do intend it to mean best, then it is either only because they hadn't yet tested the better iPhone 7 or because they were mistaken.

Either way, the obvious fact is that the iPhone 7 display was better and it might still be the best available, because we don't know yet how exactly the S8/S8+ ranks up. So until we have that data, the iPhone 7 is the best. If you believe they meant the Note 7 was, then you have to choose between they were right for a month, then something else was better or that they were wrong. So were they accidentally temporarily correct or were they justifiably temporarily correct?
 

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That's the fundamental disagreement right there. "Because best = most accurate". There's more to a display than just accuracy, but you've already highlighted that when you mentioned how the OS handles the display. The ability to change resolution or have control over color balance is important on the software side. Being able to change display modes in general is important.

So regardless of whether the S8 beats out the iPhone 7 in accuracy when Anandtech gets ahold of it, there's other factors here and 'best' is just subjective on this subject.

That is correct, unless they meant it in the way described in the post you quoted. Because best = most accurate. So saying most high performance ever tested, if they do not mean best, doesn't have anything to do with best. If they do intend it to mean best, then it is either only because they hadn't yet tested the better iPhone 7 or because they were mistaken.

Either way, the obvious fact is that the iPhone 7 display was better and it might still be the best available, because we don't know yet how exactly the S8/S8+ ranks up. So until we have that data, the iPhone 7 is the best. If you believe they meant the Note 7 was, then you have to choose between they were right for a month, then something else was better or that they were wrong. So were they accidentally temporarily correct or were they justifiably temporarily correct?
 

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That's the fundamental disagreement right there. "Because best = most accurate". There's more to a display than just accuracy, but you've already highlighted that when you mentioned how the OS handles the display. The ability to change resolution or have control over color balance is important on the software side. Being able to change display modes in general is important.

So regardless of whether the S8 beats out the iPhone 7 in accuracy when Anandtech gets ahold of it, there's other factors here and 'best' is just subjective on this subject.

To a point, yes, but as indicated earlier it's really two separate things that we can put together if needed. 1) which display is the most accurate in test conditions 2) which display is most accurate across the spectrum of conditions

Everything else, from it being curved, to power management, etc.. these are all things that are important, but they're not part of what we're talking about when we say "X has the best display". That statement is saying either 1 or 1 & 2 from the above. Currently (again, still waiting on information about the S8/S8+), the iPhone 7 is the best display by both 1 and 1 & 2. Prior to the iPhone 7, the iPhone SE was the best on 1, etc.

So it's not subjective, it's more being clear on whether something is always more accurate or only more accurate in test conditions. Once everything is on Android O or higher then only 1 will matter.

Also, as everyone seems to acknowledge, humans can't really tell the difference. So any few random people could prefer whatever they want over anything else, but it doesn't change the ranking by measurement.
 

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I just read the report from Displaymate and here is a direct quote from their concluding statement, "So the Galaxy S8 becomes the Best Performing Smartphone Display, earning DisplayMate’s highest ever A+ grade."

If it's their highest grade ever then it follows that it is their best display ever. Ok, let the nitpicking begin!
 

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I just read the report from Displaymate and here is a direct quote from their concluding statement, "So the Galaxy S8 becomes the Best Performing Smartphone Display, earning DisplayMate’s highest ever A+ grade."

If it's their highest grade ever then it follows that it is their best display ever. Ok, let the nitpicking begin!
Best performing is not necessary best, unless they mean best performing in the category of accuracy. This still goes back to the same two possibilities as before: Either they're right, in which case we don't know that yet and won't know until we have the results in front of us... or they're wrong, in which case we won't know until we have the results in front of us.
 

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Seems like Samsung has the best display until their next flagship comes out. Once the note8 comes out, this will be beat again.

When it comes to displays, Samsung can't be beat. This is the top reason why I can't ever leave samsung.
 

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But not the best display overall...that's a big difference

Best display and most accurate display are the exact same thing unless there is something wildly wrong with the most accurate, such as major defects, triple or more normal power draw, etc. In the displays we're talking about, the best of the best displays, most accurate = best display. So there's no difference, let alone a big difference.
 

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You keep making nitpicking differences that Displaymate does not make in their testing conclusions. You keep saying that best=most accurate. That is your conclusion, not theirs.

They said that they gave the s8 an A+ rating and that is the highest grade that they have ever given to a smartphone, PERIOD. They did not qualify that highest grade only you did.

I am neither a Samsung fanboy nor an Apple hater but you seem bent on finding some hidden meaning or qualifiers in their statement, none of which they make. A+ rating, highest they've ever given to a smartphone means just that. Neither Apple or any other smartphone manufacturer makes a screen that receives that same grade.

I haven't even committed to buying an S8 but I'm willing to give Samsung their due for coming up with the technology to earn that grade.
 

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Best display and most accurate display are the exact same thing unless there is something wildly wrong with the most accurate, such as major defects, triple or more normal power draw, etc. In the displays we're talking about, the best of the best displays, most accurate = best display. So there's no difference, let alone a big difference.
Just give this up, displaymate gave the S8 a A+...this makes this the best display for now....who else had this grade no one.....and its rightfully earned
 

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You keep making nitpicking differences that Displaymate does not make in their testing conclusions. You keep saying that best=most accurate. That is your conclusion, not theirs.

They said that they gave the s8 an A+ rating and that is the highest grade that they have ever given to a smartphone, PERIOD. They did not qualify that highest grade only you did.

I am neither a Samsung fanboy nor an Apple hater but you seem bent on finding some hidden meaning or qualifiers in their statement, none of which they make. A+ rating, highest they've ever given to a smartphone means just that. Neither Apple or any other smartphone manufacturer makes a screen that receives that same grade.

I haven't even committed to buying an S8 but I'm willing to give Samsung their due for coming up with the technology to earn that grade.

I'm not trying to add any meaning to their words, I'm saying that one of two things has happened. Either the S8 is better, which means more accurate, than the iPhone 7, and we don't know that yet or it isn't better and we don't know that yet either. It's pretty simple. Their comments mean absolutely nothing without evidence, and so we have to wait for the evidence. This is simple logic. I'm not sure where the difficulty in following it is coming from, but it's that simple - we have to wait until we actually KNOW to be able to say whether or not DisplayMate is correct.
 

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Just give this up, displaymate gave the S8 a A+...this makes this the best display for now....who else had this grade no one.....and its rightfully earned

Same answer here. We don't yet know if that grade was rightfully earned and won't know until we have evidence. So pending that, it's just words. As soon as we know if it actually is or is not more accurate, we will know whether or not DisplayMate was correct or not.
 

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