1. Bishop_99's Avatar
    Hi. I know the Android phones have a time limit for 4K video recording. My Note 4 has a 5 minute 4K video recording time limit, but in the newer phones, it has been increased to 10 minutes.

    I came across an article that mentions that recording video in 1080p at 60fps now has a 10 minute time limit on the Galaxy S8. Can anyone confirm this for me?

    I have the Note 4. Five minute time limit for 4K recording, but no time limit for 1080p @ 60fps. I don't get why the GS8 would have this time limit for 1080p 60fps video recording.

    Thanks
    05-24-2017 04:19 PM
  2. jeffmd's Avatar
    No one understands why, but I believe ALL video modes have a 10 minute limit. This is probably circumventable by using an alternative video recorder.
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    05-24-2017 06:20 PM
  3. Bishop_99's Avatar
    No one understands why, but I believe ALL video modes have a 10 minute limit. This is probably circumventable by using an alternative video recorder.
    Thank you for the reply.

    Seriously, all recording modes? It has been years since they first brought 4k to the Note 3, but instead of advancing it, things get limited.

    Wouldn't the S835 be more capable than the S805 to at least have the same unlimited 60fps video recording? Is it limited also on the Exynos version, or it this just an issue for the Galaxy S8?
    05-24-2017 06:37 PM
  4. theelite1x87's Avatar
    I think just 4k is limited. The limit is due to file size. I believe the file system isn't set up to allow for a video file greater than 2GB. There is a way around this but it's not implemented in the GS8.
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    05-24-2017 07:10 PM
  5. Bishop_99's Avatar
    I think just 4k is limited. The limit is due to file size. I believe the file system isn't set up to allow for a video file greater than 2GB. There is a way around this but it's not implemented in the GS8.
    Yes, 4K was limited on the Note 4 to five minutes, that created a file size of 1.68GB, but on the GS7 and GS8 for example, 4K recording is increased to 10 minutes which produces a file size of 3.36GB. So I don't think that is the reason. Besides, the bitrate of 1080p at 60fps is around 28Mbps, so the video length could be much larger just to take up that same amount of space.

    Yet the Note 4 had no limit on 1080p 60fps recording, which you could freely record video without a limit. I understood that 4K recording had a limit because it was relatively new at a time, I just have a less understanding of why there is also now a 10 minute time limit on 60fps recording

    I just don't think this is the reason.
    05-24-2017 07:22 PM
  6. theelite1x87's Avatar
    Just confirmed, in camera app 4k and 1080p60 are limited to 10 minutes. QHD however has no limit ( same as other modes). I think you can get around this limit by using another camera app. Try open camera. Though I have not tested it myself.
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    05-25-2017 11:40 AM
  7. Bishop_99's Avatar
    Just confirmed, in camera app 4k and 1080p60 are limited to 10 minutes. QHD however has no limit ( same as other modes). I think you can get around this limit by using another camera app. Try open camera. Though I have not tested it myself.
    Thanks!

    Interesting that the 1440p mode is unlimited now, that's a positive point I didn't know about.

    Although I wonder if those limitations are set in place for a reason for the 1080p at 60fps? I get the 4K having a limit, although the iPhone seems to be able to record 4K video unlimited, but the 10 minute limit on the 60fps was just an odd change for me.

    Do you record it into an SD Card or straight into the phone? Thanks for the help. If I upgrade my Note 4, it will likely be to the Note 8 and not the GS8+, but I want to see these small details.

    I appreciate the clarification.
    05-25-2017 12:37 PM
  8. Misterb's Avatar
    Thanks!

    Interesting that the 1440p mode is unlimited now, that's a positive point I didn't know about.

    Although I wonder if those limitations are set in place for a reason for the 1080p at 60fps? I get the 4K having a limit, although the iPhone seems to be able to record 4K video unlimited, but the 10 minute limit on the 60fps was just an odd change for me.

    Do you record it into an SD Card or straight into the phone? Thanks for the help. If I upgrade my Note 4, it will likely be to the Note 8 and not the GS8+, but I want to see these small details.

    I appreciate the clarification.
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    05-25-2017 12:47 PM
  9. Misterb's Avatar
    I wasn't sure if I was logged in, so that's why I did a test post. Now I can't edit it. Anyway, Apple probably doesn't care about people using up their entire phone memory with one large video, because then they can sell them more icloud backups services, and phones with additional memory
    05-25-2017 12:52 PM
  10. Bishop_99's Avatar
    I wasn't sure if I was logged in, so that's why I did a test post. Now I can't edit it. Anyway, Apple probably doesn't care about people using up their entire phone memory with one large video, because then they can sell them more icloud backups services, and phones with additional memory
    I wouldn't think space is the issue, if not they would not have opened up 1440p to unlimited recording as theelite1x87 pointed out. Besides, the Galaxy phones have the SD Card storage option which works quicker and much better than cloud services, while still having the option for cloud storage if you wanted to back up the video there.
    05-25-2017 01:12 PM
  11. ABOSWORTH007's Avatar
    I don't picture myself ever recording anything longer than 10 minutes but it seems pretty weak that there is a limit. I wonder if this is only a Samsung thing or if it is an Android limitation?
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    05-25-2017 01:34 PM
  12. Bishop_99's Avatar
    I don't picture myself ever recording anything longer than 10 minutes but it seems pretty weak that there is a limit. I wonder if this is only a Samsung thing or if it is an Android limitation?
    4K is limited through out Android as QHD/1440p was, but no longer isn't, at least on the GS8. 1080p @ 60fps is the one that I'm not sure if it's just a limit on the current Galaxy phone, as my Note 4 doesn't have a time limit on 60fps recording.

    Yes, recording for too long on a smartphone isn't comfortable, I personally use a camcorder for longer recording periods. Still, you never know when you are just out and about recording something and you have to change the quality because of the limits.

    Upgrading 1440p to unlimited is great, just odd that they chose to put that limit on 60fps videos now when they didn't have it before.
    05-25-2017 02:44 PM
  13. theelite1x87's Avatar
    I record to a 256GB SD card. I know not everyone is willing to do this but I prefer taking video and burning it to disc. Makes it more permanent. Doing that means I use a timeline video editor, and if I have multiple video files of same event 10 minutes long each it's not a problem for me to just stich them together.
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    05-25-2017 03:32 PM
  14. Bishop_99's Avatar
    I record to a 256GB SD card. I know not everyone is willing to do this but I prefer taking video and burning it to disc. Makes it more permanent. Doing that means I use a timeline video editor, and if I have multiple video files of same event 10 minutes long each it's not a problem for me to just stich them together.
    Thanks!

    I also like to burn them to discs, Blu-ray discs actually. Storing them onto discs or authoring them onto a disc has been far more reliable for me than hard drives.

    Oh, one more thing. The SD Card I use on my Note 4 is formatted to Fat32, I never properly formatted it for the Note 4. So if I record a 1080p video at 60fps straight to the SD card, it automatically stops at 10 minutes, but if I change the storage to the phone, 60fps has no time limit.

    I was wondering if by any chance if you can check if that time limit also shows up if you switch the 1080p 60fps recording to the phones storage? Just in case that may the issue and 60fps is actually the same.

    Just hopeful lol. It's great knowing QHD is unlimited now though.
    05-25-2017 04:01 PM
  15. theelite1x87's Avatar
    Switched to internal storage. No difference. It's not a hardware limitation. Previous devices had a 4k limit because of battery drain and heat. For instance my V10 would get HOT after a few minutes if 4k. The 835 chip on this phone seems to be fine with it. I got a feeling Samsung has the limit for artificial reasons. Possible they could change it in an update.
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    05-25-2017 07:10 PM
  16. Bishop_99's Avatar
    Switched to internal storage. No difference. It's not a hardware limitation. Previous devices had a 4k limit because of battery drain and heat. For instance my V10 would get HOT after a few minutes if 4k. The 835 chip on this phone seems to be fine with it. I got a feeling Samsung has the limit for artificial reasons. Possible they could change it in an update.
    Thank you for your time, I appreciate the help. It's going to help me a lot with the decision for the Note 8. While there is that limitation, at least the QHD version doesn't have it. Great to know that. Thanks!
    05-25-2017 09:55 PM
  17. L0n3N1nja's Avatar
    To my understanding there is a limitation to file size in Android due to the file format used in the storage. Regardless of video settings or storage remaining on the device it will cut out when the video file hits max size.
    05-25-2017 10:50 PM
  18. Zachary Boddy's Avatar
    I do not believe the limitations placed on video recording is due to file size but rather to overheating concerns. Modern smartphones are more than capable of handling large amounts of data at once. I'm sure Samsung as placed the limitations on the video recording mentioned either for artificial reasons or as a simple oversight that needs to be fixed with a later update. The fact that 1440p is not susceptible to the same limits makes me suspicious that maybe this isn't a purposeful limitation. Or maybe it has to do with the frame rate.
    Either way, the Snapdragon 835 could probably handle 4K for longer than 10 minutes without throttling, but Samsung is playing it safe. I mean, Note 7 anyone? Samsung wants to avoid anyone complaining about their S8 getting a little toasty.
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    05-26-2017 03:45 PM
  19. anon(10476678)'s Avatar
    I have a note 8 Exynos and a app called open camera ignores that stupid time limit
    06-16-2018 07:27 PM

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