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  1. TylerLV76's Avatar
    Hey Johnny, you have both the G6 and S8 right? Let me ask ya...

    OLEDs always have the rep of the best blacks... the 'inkiest' black and I can see that and in full color pics, the S8 screen just POPS if you do a side by side with G6 even though the G6 is no slouch... full color high detail are amazing... maybe more true to color type look to it compared to the poping colors on S8.

    But what is your opinion comparing whites on the S8 and G6 or even i7?

    Every time I do a side by side of a S8 and G6, the only thing that bothers me is when you do a side by side (I'll bring up the messaging app to get a white background to compare)... G6 white is WHITE WHITE... and the S8 always just doesn't look as white. Just seems it has a hint of red or orange or something... like a dull or like an antique white.

    I've gone to many different stores... BBs, AT&T stores... always a side by side, demo vs demo... and the whites on the G6 are just whiter.

    Do you see that also with your phones?
    I've got both and the whites on the G6 are definitely whiter. Most LCD screens have whiter whites compared to amoled. The S8 to me has a hint of yellow to it but not nearly as bad as my s7 or s7 edge had.
    06-14-2017 10:34 PM
  2. ThrottleJohnny's Avatar
    Hey Johnny, you have both the G6 and S8 right? Let me ask ya...

    OLEDs always have the rep of the best blacks... the 'inkiest' black and I can see that and in full color pics, the S8 screen just POPS if you do a side by side with G6 even though the G6 is no slouch... full color high detail are amazing... maybe more true to color type look to it compared to the poping colors on S8.

    But what is your opinion comparing whites on the S8 and G6 or even i7?

    Every time I do a side by side of a S8 and G6, the only thing that bothers me is when you do a side by side (I'll bring up the messaging app to get a white background to compare)... G6 white is WHITE WHITE... and the S8 always just doesn't look as white. Just seems it has a hint of red or orange or something... like a dull or like an antique white.

    I've gone to many different stores... BBs, AT&T stores... always a side by side, demo vs demo... and the whites on the G6 are just whiter.

    Do you see that also with your phones?
    That's always been the case with Oled screens. They've always had more of a blue tent and this new infinity display leans more red.

    The G6 screen has whiter whites and is very vivid, but also slightly dimmer and doesn't pop like Amoled screens do.

    The white of the Oled screen has always kinda bugged me. It's when you add color that I feel LCD simply can't match it.
    06-14-2017 10:55 PM
  3. jasonb's Avatar
    I guarantee the color temp on the G6 is higher, meaning more blue. I am also willing to bet that most people's TV's look more blue than they should as well. Tests on the S8's displays have shown it to be very accurate. LG phones on the other hand tend to be more blue than they should be.
    06-14-2017 11:28 PM
  4. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    I guarantee the color temp on the G6 is higher, meaning more blue. I am also willing to bet that most people's TV's look more blue than they should as well. Tests on the S8's displays have shown it to be very accurate. LG phones on the other hand tend to be more blue than they should be.
    I think you mean lower or "cooler"?
    06-14-2017 11:38 PM
  5. jasonb's Avatar
    I think you mean lower or "cooler"
    On the Kelvin scale, higher "K" is more blue. The S8 in cinema mode is right at 6500k, where it should be. If you're used to seeing displays that are calibrated at higher than 6500k then the S8 will look too warm or too yellow to you.

    Most TV's and most displays out of the box on default settings will look more blue than is accurate.

    S8 burn in: it finally happened-screenshot_20170615-005254.jpg
    06-14-2017 11:46 PM
  6. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    On the Kelvin scale, higher "K" is more blue. The S8 in cinema mode is right at 6500k, where it should be. If you're used to seeing displays that are calibrated at higher than 6500k then the S8 will look too warm or too yellow to you.

    Most TV's and most displays out of the box on default settings will look more blue than is accurate.

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    I'm confused by how the Kelvin value seems to be reversed from that on my camera.
    06-14-2017 11:56 PM
  7. jasonb's Avatar
    I'm confused by how the Kelvin value seems to be reversed from that on my camera.
    I don't know much about photography, I just know displays. I've been into home theater audio and video for a while. This is the Kelvin scale as I know it.
    S8 burn in: it finally happened-8fd3cd1be9a9189227a6ca786bdab672.jpg
    06-15-2017 12:05 AM
  8. jasonb's Avatar
    Anyway, click this link for actual tests of the display. In cinema more everything is very accurate.

    Galaxy S8 OLED Display Technology Shoot-Out

    Here is a screenshot of the white balance and color accuracy results

    S8 burn in: it finally happened-screenshot_20170615-010856.jpg
    06-15-2017 12:13 AM
  9. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    I don't know much about photography, I just know displays. I've been into home theater audio and video for a while. This is the Kelvin scale as I know it.
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    I think I finally get it.

    The value displayed on my camera seems to correspond to the color temperature at where it's pointing at, and uses it to compensate, meaning lower Kelvin is cooler and higher Kelvin is warmer, the reverse of what's actually the case.

    The more you know. Got confused there.
    06-15-2017 12:15 AM
  10. tntckoo's Avatar
    Some guy reported it (see pictures). Anyone else worried about this? Do you use yours at max brightness? Wonder how long it'll take until it burns in at the bottom...

    https://www.google.com/amp/www.andro...ue-768623/amp/

    Attachment 261841

    Here's how to hide the nav bar for those that are paranoid: How to hide the navigation and status bars on the Galaxy S8

    EDIT: Here's the original reddit post. It is indeed real! Reddit user: Kougeru

    https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS8/co...ottom-comments
    Watch my 3 months old s8 with burnt status bar :
    08-09-2017 03:38 AM
  11. johwto's Avatar
    I don't believe it at all. You'd have to go way out of your way to get burn in and it's much more difficult to do on modern displays than even 2-3 years ago. Also, Samsung specifically engineered their software to be able to be "always on" and not cause burn in ... so my vote is abuse of the device until proven otherwise.
    Well then they did a crap job of engineering. my phone has burn in and i havent used it any differently then any other phone over the past 10 years.
    08-11-2017 04:23 PM
  12. jeffmd's Avatar
    It is impossible for an LCD screen to have burn in or retention. Sorry. But this is why I prefer LCD over amoled.
    This is %100 false.
    08-12-2017 08:47 AM
  13. ffejjj's Avatar
    This is %100 false.
    I agree. My daughter's G5 had a bad case of retention after 4 months
    08-12-2017 12:39 PM
  14. flyingkytez's Avatar
    Hey Johnny, you have both the G6 and S8 right? Let me ask ya...

    OLEDs always have the rep of the best blacks... the 'inkiest' black and I can see that and in full color pics, the S8 screen just POPS if you do a side by side with G6 even though the G6 is no slouch... full color high detail are amazing... maybe more true to color type look to it compared to the poping colors on S8.

    But what is your opinion comparing whites on the S8 and G6 or even i7?

    Every time I do a side by side of a S8 and G6, the only thing that bothers me is when you do a side by side (I'll bring up the messaging app to get a white background to compare)... G6 white is WHITE WHITE... and the S8 always just doesn't look as white. Just seems it has a hint of red or orange or something... like a dull or like an antique white.

    I've gone to many different stores... BBs, AT&T stores... always a side by side, demo vs demo... and the whites on the G6 are just whiter.

    Do you see that also with your phones?
    I know exactly what you're talking about. I've owned all of the Samsung phones. After a period of time, I start to get annoyed with the AMOLED panels. Photo editing always throws off the actual color, especially when you view the final edited photo on a LCD screen. When I had a Samsung, I envy IPS LCD screens because whites look much more satisfying. I think HTC makes AMAZING S-LCD screens, it looks very sharp (HTC 10 looked nice), LG is second with their Quantum IPS. Another thing is being paranoid about screen burn in, with LCD I don't care if the screen is on for hours. The keyboard is what will burn in first, especially since the default theme is white.
    08-12-2017 05:36 PM
  15. flyingkytez's Avatar
    I agree. My daughter's G5 had a bad case of retention after 4 months
    Retention isn't permanent. It goes away after a while. AMOLED however is.
    08-12-2017 05:38 PM
  16. Aquila's Avatar
    I know exactly what you're talking about. I've owned all of the Samsung phones. After a period of time, I start to get annoyed with the AMOLED panels. Photo editing always throws off the actual color, especially when you view the final edited photo on a LCD screen. When I had a Samsung, I envy IPS LCD screens because whites look much more satisfying. I think HTC makes AMAZING S-LCD screens, it looks very sharp (HTC 10 looked nice), LG is second with their Quantum IPS. Another thing is being paranoid about screen burn in, with LCD I don't care if the screen is on for hours. The keyboard is what will burn in first, especially since the default theme is white.
    So having an accurately calibrated display makes your photos look wrong? Something is wrong with your monitor then, not the S8. LGs displays are horribly inaccurate next to the competition except for the Nexus 5X, which was calibrated much better.
    08-12-2017 09:10 PM
  17. ffejjj's Avatar
    Retention isn't permanent. It goes away after a while. AMOLED however is.
    I understand that. I was commenting on the fact that retention is a real thing
    08-13-2017 11:16 AM
  18. flyingkytez's Avatar
    So having an accurately calibrated display makes your photos look wrong? Something is wrong with your monitor then, not the S8. LGs displays are horribly inaccurate next to the competition except for the Nexus 5X, which was calibrated much better.
    Ask any photographer if they would rather edit on an LCD monitor or AMOLED.
    08-13-2017 07:22 PM
  19. Aquila's Avatar
    Ask any photographer if they would rather edit on an LCD monitor or AMOLED.
    Any of them who know anything at all about their craft is going to prefer an ACCURATE display. The type of display doesn't matter at all for still photos, only the resolution and color accuracy matter.
    08-13-2017 07:56 PM
  20. Viscomi4444's Avatar


    I finally have screen burn in at the bottom. I'm not sure if the screenshot will show it. I don't have screen burn in of the actual nav buttons but the top of the nav bar.

    I keep my brightness at about 3/4ths. Samsung should just get rid of the nav bar box and let it just be the nav symbols.
    08-13-2017 08:08 PM
  21. Morty2264's Avatar
    Oh wow! Just saw those pictures. Perhaps it's also dependent upon specific models; and then there are other variables to consider, such as how high the brightness is turned up, how much the phone is used, if navigation bar is always open for specific apps, etc.
    08-13-2017 08:14 PM
  22. jeffmd's Avatar
    Retention isn't permanent. It goes away after a while. AMOLED however is.
    It most certainly is. My 21" dell from a while ago got burn in from world of warcraft (I'm not ashamed!! ) From the day on I make all my action bars translucent. -_-
    08-13-2017 10:48 PM
  23. flyingkytez's Avatar
    Any of them who know anything at all about their craft is going to prefer an ACCURATE display. The type of display doesn't matter at all for still photos, only the resolution and color accuracy matter.
    AMOLED screens by default are enhanced so colors would pop. There's a setting to set it back to "standard".
    08-14-2017 10:21 AM
  24. Aquila's Avatar
    AMOLED screens by default are enhanced so colors would pop. There's a setting to set it back to "standard".
    Really trying to understand where you're getting this. Do you have something you were reading that has all this incorrect information, or is it just based on what Samsung phones traditionally have done out of the box or something else?

    To try to make this as brief as possible, there are very few real differences in LCD vs *LED displays. The main difference is how the display is lit. LCDs have a backlight that turns on all pixels all the time while *LED displays turn on only pixels that need to display colors that are not black. LEDs also have the advantage of being able to be individually dimmed or brightened to enhance the accuracy of colors being produced with RGB sub pixels.

    But, there are no inherent color differences in the displays. That's all up to the color mode and calibration of the display in each mode. Or, as we go into devices shipping with Android O, the OS will dictate exactly which colors will be displayed through OS level color management. An LCD and LED display that are calibrated exactly the same will display exactly the same colors. One will not be skewed or shifted by the nature of the type of display, aside from any production errors in the panel itself.

    Currently the most accurate display on the market is the iPhone 7/7+, which is an LCD. The second and third most accurate are both Samsung devices, the S8/S8+ and the S7/S7 Edge, which are both AMOLED. The only reason the iPhone is winning that battle is because Apple took the time to individually calibrate each display as perfectly as possible.

    It is impossible to look at only the type of display and make any correct assumption about which one will have more accurate colors.
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    08-14-2017 10:32 AM
  25. flyingkytez's Avatar
    Really trying to understand where you're getting this. Do you have something you were reading that has all this incorrect information, or is it just based on what Samsung phones traditionally have done out of the box or something else?

    To try to make this as brief as possible, there are very few real differences in LCD vs *LED displays. The main difference is how the display is lit. LCDs have a backlight that turns on all pixels all the time while *LED displays turn on only pixels that need to display colors that are not black. LEDs also have the advantage of being able to be individually dimmed or brightened to enhance the accuracy of colors being produced with RGB sub pixels.

    But, there are no inherent color differences in the displays. That's all up to the color mode and calibration of the display in each mode. Or, as we go into devices shipping with Android O, the OS will dictate exactly which colors will be displayed through OS level color management. An LCD and LED display that are calibrated exactly the same will display exactly the same colors. One will not be skewed or shifted by the nature of the type of display, aside from any production errors in the panel itself.

    Currently the most accurate display on the market is the iPhone 7/7+, which is an LCD. The second and third most accurate are both Samsung devices, the S8/S8+ and the S7/S7 Edge, which are both AMOLED. The only reason the iPhone is winning that battle is because Apple took the time to individually calibrate each display as perfectly as possible.

    It is impossible to look at only the type of display and make any correct assumption about which one will have more accurate colors.
    Why does my face in pictures look more orange on AMOLED panels? My face isn't that orange in real life.
    08-14-2017 11:15 AM
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