06-24-2017 07:31 AM
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  1. IBMJunkman's Avatar
    I see one can buy a S8 from Samsung direct for about $100 cheaper than from Verizon.

    In this case how does one get OS updates?

    I see the Forbes reviewer has stopped using the S8 after 60 days due to software problems.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/bensin/.../#66931d15fe51

    How is the software on the S8?
    06-14-2017 04:15 PM
  2. Almeuit's Avatar
    I see one can buy a S8 from Samsung direct for about $100 cheaper than from Verizon.

    In this case how does one get OS updates?

    I see the Forbes reviewer has stopped using the S8 after 60 days due to software problems.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/bensin/.../#66931d15fe51

    How is the software on the S8?
    Working fine so far. If you have Bestbuy in your area they have a "Get $200 gift card" when you buy an S8 via an installment plan and have unlimited data.

    Order the Samsung Galaxy S8 & Galaxy S8+ - Best Buy
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    06-14-2017 04:17 PM
  3. cwbcpa's Avatar
    I see one can buy a S8 from Samsung direct for about $100 cheaper than from Verizon.

    In this case how does one get OS updates?

    I see the Forbes reviewer has stopped using the S8 after 60 days due to software problems.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/bensin/.../#66931d15fe51

    How is the software on the S8?
    I have only had the S8+ for about 15 days so I can't say he's wrong or didn't experience those issues, but I can say that my S8+ is every bit as fast as it was out of the box. No lag at all, any time, period. Has not happened. I'd tell you if it did. I'm not dedicated to any manufacturer or even one OS. I will be using this phone for at least the next 6 months, longer if it goes well, so we will see how it ages. I typically don't have the issues that many people complain about in reviews and forums though, but we will see.
    06-14-2017 07:12 PM
  4. slingshot202's Avatar
    Ive been using an S8 for over a month now and I don't see any lag. My S5 was a nightmare on a busy day at work.

    Still ignoring Bixby, don't use Iris or fingerprint. Good old swipe code works for me ..

    Love this phone more than my iPhone 6S.

    Still miss the old Apple Notifications but I'm adapting.
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    06-14-2017 10:47 PM
  5. cwbcpa's Avatar
    Ive been using an S8 for over a month now and I don't see any lag. My S5 was a nightmare on a busy day at work.

    Still ignoring Bixby, don't use Iris or fingerprint. Good old swipe code works for me ..

    Love this phone more than my iPhone 6S.

    Still miss the old Apple Notifications but I'm adapting.
    I'm just curious. What do you miss about Apple notifications? For me, I much prefer the way Android does notifications. They are grouped together and I can take a number of actions on the notifications without even opening the app.

    We all have different preferences though so what what do you miss from the iPhone notifications?
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    06-15-2017 07:04 AM
  6. Almeuit's Avatar
    I'm just curious. What do you miss about Apple notifications? For me, I much prefer the way Android does notifications. They are grouped together and I can take a number of actions on the notifications without even opening the app.

    We all have different preferences though so what what do you miss from the iPhone notifications?
    I am in the same boat. I prefer seeing what app is calling for my attention at the to left with ease. I hate how Apple makes you go into a whole separate area to view the notifications to see if you want to even work with any of them.
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    06-15-2017 06:48 PM
  7. Soylent_Green's Avatar
    All S8 and S8+'s you buy in the US are all unlocked, you just have to flash a different firmware to go from network to network.
    06-15-2017 09:17 PM
  8. co.ag.2005's Avatar
    FWIW, OP, I've had the Verizon variant of the S8 and now the unlocked version of the S8. I love the unlocked version of the S8 and got the latest round of updates sooner than the verizon variant. I just love not having the Verizon bloat, fugly 4G logo in notification bar, Verizon boot screen, and now have the device maintenance app, Samsung cloud, the the S8 caller id is awesome! it tells me if a call coming in is suspected spam or if it's a business, it'll display the business name. I definitely recommend getting the unlocked variant, but get it at Best buy if you have one nearby.
    06-16-2017 09:19 AM
  9. Berry me a G's Avatar
    just ordered my s8 directly from Samsung... $475 with my S6 trade in and am pretty psyched to not have any verizon bloat or boot screen!..plus 2 day shipping. Seems like a damn good deal to me and everything ive read so far has indicated that updates are coming faster than past unlocked phones.
    06-16-2017 04:45 PM
  10. slingshot202's Avatar
    Wow unlocked sounds nice. I,had to install a separate phone tracker in case of past phone because Vz blocked the Samsung one. How stupid is that.
    06-16-2017 10:22 PM
  11. Almeuit's Avatar
    Wow unlocked sounds nice. I,had to install a separate phone tracker in case of past phone because Vz blocked the Samsung one. How stupid is that.
    I just use Android Device Manager which is built into Android on my VZW Variant.
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    06-16-2017 10:31 PM
  12. recDNA's Avatar
    Anybody with unlocked version using in VZW run into ANY problems?
    06-17-2017 03:38 PM
  13. Antonius66's Avatar
    Man I have spent a ton of time looking around and can't seem to find all definitive answers. For those who have used the Samsung unlocked version on Verizon (not the Verizon unlocked one), can they confirm or deny the following?

    - WiFi Calling does NOT work on VZ with the unlocked version

    - VoLTE and HD calling DO work on VZ

    - Any app based WiFi calling would still work

    - Video calling DOES/DOES not work?

    - Voicemail still gives you notifications/works like normal?

    Looking to grab one, but want to be sure I know what will and won't work on VZ.
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    06-21-2017 02:56 PM
  14. gernerttl's Avatar
    Man I have spent a ton of time looking around and can't seem to find all definitive answers. For those who have used the Samsung unlocked version on Verizon (not the Verizon unlocked one), can they confirm or deny the following?

    - WiFi Calling does NOT work on VZ with the unlocked version

    - VoLTE and HD calling DO work on VZ

    - Any app based WiFi calling would still work

    - Video calling DOES/DOES not work?

    - Voicemail still gives you notifications/works like normal?

    Looking to grab one, but want to be sure I know what will and won't work on VZ.
    This is dated, but can answer SOME of your questions.

    Should You Get the Galaxy S8 Unlocked? Pros and Cons

    The phone should be fully functional with WiFi calling and everything. The only difference is the lack of bloat ware. Also, according to the article, you MAY not get updates as often as you like.

    If you are paying Verizon for its service, you will get the same exact service as if you bought the phone from it. Verizon gains nothing by doing that. In fact, it makes it more difficult to manage if it was blocking certain services to unlocked phones.

    Edit: Here is an article about unlocked phones being updated.

    http://www.droid-life.com/2017/06/12...xy-s8-updates/
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    06-21-2017 04:42 PM
  15. Antonius66's Avatar
    Interesting. I had already read both of those articles actually. The one thing I generally saw when I was trying to research it several times was that WiFi calling does not work with the S8s. That is why I am trying to confirm what does and doesn't, especially with someone who has one on the VZ network.
    06-21-2017 07:02 PM
  16. Antonius66's Avatar
    Well for those who are curious...from someone who answered my questions on another forum and who is using a US unlocked Samsung S8 on VZ...

    - WiFi calling does NOT work

    - Visual Voicemail with VZ does NOT work and does NOT notify you, although you can setup a Google Voice number and forward your VM to there with notifications

    - Video calling does NOT work

    - VoLTE and HD Voice DO work
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    06-21-2017 07:42 PM
  17. sangs's Avatar
    Well for those who are curious...from someone who answered my questions on another forum and who is using a US unlocked Samsung S8 on VZ...

    - WiFi calling does NOT work

    - Visual Voicemail with VZ does NOT work and does NOT notify you, although you can setup a Google Voice number and forward your VM to there with notifications

    - Video calling does NOT work

    - VoLTE and HD Voice DO work
    So once again, purchasing an unlocked phone for use with Verizon is like buying a BMW stripped down to operate like an Accord. (Unless it's an iPhone, of course.)
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    06-22-2017 05:57 AM
  18. BrownChickenBrownCow's Avatar
    Well for those who are curious...from someone who answered my questions on another forum and who is using a US unlocked Samsung S8 on VZ...

    - WiFi calling does NOT work

    - Visual Voicemail with VZ does NOT work and does NOT notify you, although you can setup a Google Voice number and forward your VM to there with notifications

    - Video calling does NOT work

    - VoLTE and HD Voice DO work
    The video calling is really a bummer. It's so much more convenient than using another app.

    Does the standard voicemail work? I don't pay an extra for Voicemail now, so I'm not sure if it's the same.
    06-22-2017 09:30 AM
  19. msp1518's Avatar
    I imagine the upcoming Essential Phone will be similarly crippled. Unlocked phones are truly a bummer.
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    06-22-2017 09:43 AM
  20. gernerttl's Avatar
    Ok. I found this.

    AT&T also does not allow WiFi calling on non-branded phones.

    https://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...lling-t3622318

    As for Visual Voice Mail. It is a paid service on Verizon so you have to have it as one of the options in your plan. I believe it costs $2.99/month. You also would need to install the Verizon's Visual Voice Mail app.

    Video calling SHOULD work. It's built into the default phone dialer app on the device. As long as you have LTE connectivity you should be good on that.

    I don't get voice mail notifications on my Verizon branded S8+. I will have to see why.
    06-22-2017 03:42 PM
  21. slingshot202's Avatar
    Ok. I found this.

    AT&T also does not allow WiFi calling on non-branded phones.

    https://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...lling-t3622318

    As for Visual Voice Mail. It is a paid service on Verizon so you have to have it as one of the options in your plan. I believe it costs $2.99/month. You also would need to install the Verizon's Visual Voice Mail app.

    Video calling SHOULD work. It's built into the default phone dialer app on the device. As long as you have LTE connectivity you should be good on that.

    I don't get voice mail notifications on my Verizon branded S8+. I will have to see why.
    I haven't tried video calling on my S8 but I have used it on my S5 for work. On my personal phone I have to find a friend that doesn't have an iPhone. It's far and few between.
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    06-22-2017 07:00 PM
  22. Antonius66's Avatar
    Well, from what I have read and been told, most of that stuff should be workable with alternatives. Google Voice can be setup with call forwarding to have the equivalent of Visual VM for free, Google Duo can be used for video calls (although I don't know if or how it would work with someone who does not have Duo and only stock video calling app on phone with VZ, etc). The biggest things honestly to me are VoLTE and HD Voice, and those apparently work so that is huge. The video and VM should be available with other apps, and I assume WiFi calling as well should work with something like Signal or another WiFi based/data calling app. I will find out when I get the phone.
    06-22-2017 07:09 PM
  23. recDNA's Avatar
    How about the newest VZW LTE bands? Do they work?
    06-23-2017 12:39 PM
  24. Almeuit's Avatar
    As for Visual Voice Mail. It is a paid service on Verizon so you have to have it as one of the options in your plan. I believe it costs $2.99/month. You also would need to install the Verizon's Visual Voice Mail app.
    It is free for VZW -- Just FYI. That is the "Premium" VVM .. which includes voicemail to text. If you just do regular Voicemail it doesn't cost anything.
    Attached Thumbnails Verizon vs Samsung unlocked-prem_vvm_vzw.png  
    06-23-2017 02:46 PM
  25. gernerttl's Avatar
    I have to find a friend that doesn't have an iPhone. It's far and few between.
    Wouldn't it be easier to get new friends? J/K. Actually, Verizon Messenger allows you to do WiFi calling, video calling, and texting. It's free and it works on other Android devices that don't have an LTE capability. I used it while in Okinawa to make phone calls back here to the US. I had a WiFi hotspot set up in my hotel room that I used. It worked pretty well. About as well as Google Voice, which works really well too.
    06-23-2017 02:56 PM
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