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  1. ThrottleJohnny's Avatar
    Marketing budget.
    Exactly
    Qc_Anubis likes this.
    06-26-2017 11:15 AM
  2. Ry's Avatar
    All iOS devices default to iMessage, not SMS/MMS. The user has to specifically enable SMS/MMS support. WhatsApp, while including SMS/MMS support defaults to its own protocol and with over 1 billion active users worldwide is the leading texting service at around 44% of the market share, close behind WhatsApp is WeChat the Chinese texting service. Don't know much about WeChat or what protocol it runs off of. Anyway, SMS/MMS is hardly the default protocol used by every phone out there. As for texting between carriers, you should start following the various Android help forums more. Issues tied to texting problems are numerous and hardly a seamless, especially when it comes to the arbitrary file size limitations on MMS.
    Only Apple to Apple though.

    SMS/MMS is still the "default" outside of that.
    smvim, Qc_Anubis and BratPAQ like this.
    06-26-2017 11:26 AM
  3. uncreativeartist's Avatar
    I really hate the options you have with using an Android phone. Just give us what we don't know we need and give us what we want but wait two years.

    I never used an Apple product in my life. I never liked any of their products, their computers years ago were child like. Their recent products are so over priced, I couldn't afford them if I wanted to. A cousin of mine bought the latest and greatest Apple computer, desktop the same time I built my current pc. His mac cost 5 times what my pc cost me and my pc was nearly twice as powerful. My pc if you bought it pre-built would have about nearly 3 times cheaper than his mac.

    This fanboy stuff has got to stop, I know it won't but it needs to stop. It has driven the price of electronics to the point of lunacy. All because if millions are willing to pay $1000 for the latest cell phone each year why not other companies do the same?
    06-26-2017 02:32 PM
  4. LuxuryTouringZone's Avatar
    "What can Samsung learn from Apple"

    They can learn to stop wasting so much money on hundreds of useless phones a year, and focus on making a few low-rangers, mid-rangers, and the two flagships they normally release. They'd be better off using that money for supporting their devices for no less than 3 years.
    Doug Moffat likes this.
    06-26-2017 04:49 PM
  5. Basement Warrior's Avatar
    By what metric are you trying to compare the two?


    In terms of focusing more on developing an eco system similar to Apple that is designed for premium hardware and quality support for these services
    06-26-2017 05:24 PM
  6. swagglepuff's Avatar
    Once again in an effort to beat the iPhone to the market, because Samsung is terrified of the prospect of going head to head with the Apple juggernaut, Samsung rushes the release of a device full of glitches and compromises. The lessons of the Note 7 weren't learned. The market has spoken. People want a fluid, reliable user experience. Apple punishes Samsung annually because Apple gets it. Samsung doesn't.
    Just a little fyi. Samsung is the world's largest cellphone maker. There are in no way afraid of apple. Infact outside of the United States apple has **** for market share.
    DMP89145 and BratPAQ like this.
    06-26-2017 06:00 PM
  7. flyingkytez's Avatar
    Just curious what Samsung should learn from Apple iPhone and implement in their phones.
    They did learn from Apple: make a very good camera, make a very simple phone with no gimmicks, and make the phone look pretty. The next best thing is to optimize RAM usage, Apple gets praised for best optimization. Sales are getting better but still can't beat Apple. No matter what, Samsung, do not copy Apple/HTC/Lenovo and remove the headphone jack.
    Qc_Anubis likes this.
    06-26-2017 07:18 PM
  8. flyingkytez's Avatar
    I really hate the options you have with using an Android phone. Just give us what we don't know we need and give us what we want but wait two years.

    I never used an Apple product in my life. I never liked any of their products, their computers years ago were child like. Their recent products are so over priced, I couldn't afford them if I wanted to. A cousin of mine bought the latest and greatest Apple computer, desktop the same time I built my current pc. His mac cost 5 times what my pc cost me and my pc was nearly twice as powerful. My pc if you bought it pre-built would have about nearly 3 times cheaper than his mac.

    This fanboy stuff has got to stop, I know it won't but it needs to stop. It has driven the price of electronics to the point of lunacy. All because if millions are willing to pay $1000 for the latest cell phone each year why not other companies do the same?
    Apple is like BMW or Mercedes. It has a nice brand image and looks pretty, and costs a lot of money. Everyone wants one.
    06-26-2017 07:24 PM
  9. D.P.G.'s Avatar
    Nothing !!!!!!
    06-26-2017 07:53 PM
  10. swagglepuff's Avatar
    They did learn from Apple: make a very good camera, make a very simple phone with no gimmicks, and make the phone look pretty. The next best thing is to optimize RAM usage, Apple gets praised for best optimization. Sales are getting better but still can't beat Apple. No matter what, Samsung, do not copy Apple/HTC/Lenovo and remove the headphone jack.
    Literally Samsung is the world's largest phone manufacturer. Why does everyone think apple is number one. Maybe here in the united states, but the most used platform in the world is Android followed by Microsoft then Apple.

    Apple is going to be surpassed by Huawei in the next couple years as well.
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    06-26-2017 09:36 PM
  11. Doug Moffat's Avatar
    I appreciate the civility of these forums even when discussing Apple/Samsung.

    Try AppleInsider if you want a taste of the darkside.
    06-26-2017 10:18 PM
  12. flyingkytez's Avatar
    Literally Samsung is the world's largest phone manufacturer. Why does everyone think apple is number one. Maybe here in the united states, but the most used platform in the world is Android followed by Microsoft then Apple.

    Apple is going to be surpassed by Huawei in the next couple years as well.
    In the USA, Apple is the biggest. Especially down here in Silicon Valley, birthplace and headquarters of Apple.
    06-26-2017 10:35 PM
  13. Qc_Anubis's Avatar
    They did learn from Apple: make a very good camera, make a very simple phone with no gimmicks, and make the phone look pretty. The next best thing is to optimize RAM usage, Apple gets praised for best optimization. Sales are getting better but still can't beat Apple. No matter what, Samsung, do not copy Apple/HTC/Lenovo and remove the headphone jack.
    I second this ! Although to me force touch displays are a gimmick i can do on my s8 the same as that function and i believe you can do it faster though i'm not a "hardcore" app user i mostly open apps to check what's going on (ie reading facebook,twitter when i'm bored). Great idea still but nowhere near the level it could be imho.
    06-26-2017 10:48 PM
  14. Michael Alan Goff's Avatar
    Literally Samsung is the world's largest phone manufacturer. Why does everyone think apple is number one. Maybe here in the united states, but the most used platform in the world is Android followed by Microsoft then Apple.

    Apple is going to be surpassed by Huawei in the next couple years as well.
    Apple is the biggest in terms of single line of phone. They'll sell more of their flagships than any other phone maker.
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    06-26-2017 10:59 PM
  15. DMP89145's Avatar
    In the USA, Apple is the biggest. Especially down here in Silicon Valley, birthplace and headquarters of Apple.
    Single manufacture that's true, but platform to platform Android is still ahead.. barely so.

    https://www.neowin.net/news/comscore...r-january-2017


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    06-26-2017 11:16 PM
  16. anon(9602380)'s Avatar
    Better updates and more frequently.
    06-27-2017 02:55 AM
  17. trucksmoveamerica#AC's Avatar
    Apple is the biggest in terms of single line of phone. They'll sell more of their flagships than any other phone maker.
    Samsung offers 2 flagships, S8 and note series. Just curious if you combine those 2 how it compares to appear numbers. Either way, as the normal there are more choices on Android then Apple.
    06-27-2017 07:49 AM
  18. Roberto Velazquez R's Avatar
    Exactly
    The only advantage of an iphone over let say a Samsung phone is the OS updates, Apple updates are released almost immediately to every iPhone while Samsung takes forever to releases OS updates
    06-27-2017 10:37 AM
  19. Deke218's Avatar
    A lack of innovation. I'm sick of having to learn new features every time I buy a new Samsung phone. I mean why can't they just stick to the same features phone after phone? Why does the Note have to be so different from the Note 8? Come on Samsung! Just change the number on the phone and leave the features aloneñ
    06-27-2017 10:59 AM
  20. Michael Alan Goff's Avatar
    Samsung offers 2 flagships, S8 and note series. Just curious if you combine those 2 how it compares to appear numbers. Either way, as the normal there are more choices on Android then Apple.
    Well, I don't think it's fair to compare using the Note 7 (for Samsung) and the Note 8 isn't out. I'm still looking for more numbers, but the first thing that leaps out is five million in the first month. Five million S8 sold in 25 days. Projecting out to three months is about 17.5 million if the pace kept up. Even if the same number of notes were sold, it's not equivalent to the 50+million iPhones sold every quarter.

    Note: I am not saying anyone is better. I'm saying we need to stop downplaying the competition simply because we don't like them.
    06-27-2017 11:13 AM
  21. Qc_Anubis's Avatar
    A lack of innovation. I'm sick of having to learn new features every time I buy a new Samsung phone. I mean why can't they just stick to the same features phone after phone? Why does the Note have to be so different from the Note 8? Come on Samsung! Just change the number on the phone and leave the features aloneñ
    Most android manufacturer (including samsung) innovate much more than apple ever does, their phone changes more year after year compared to iphones which didn't for 3 years now (probably 4th with the same design with the 8th) learning new features = innovations they try new things. Most feature that any manufacturer include are easy to learn,if you can't learn those you're probably not made for android (Not saying this in a mean way). The note is different because it appeals to different people (aka those who want/need a pen for buisiness purposes or taking well notes) having the same features year after year imho is counter intuitive no one wou'd buy the same samsung every year without changes (notice i didn't speak about iphones). Like i said alot these past couple days no one forces you to buy it, if you hate innovation that bad don't get android easy as that. IF you're about to say you can't stand iphones then just buy a cheap midrange or a highend midrange (oneplus,huawei etc). This is the beauty of android : choices there's a phone for every person in the world to like wether it be price wise or feature wise.
    06-27-2017 12:02 PM
  22. trucksmoveamerica#AC's Avatar
    Well, I don't think it's fair to compare using the Note 7 (for Samsung) and the Note 8 isn't out. I'm still looking for more numbers, but the first thing that leaps out is five million in the first month. Five million S8 sold in 25 days. Projecting out to three months is about 17.5 million if the pace kept up. Even if the same number of notes were sold, it's not equivalent to the 50+million iPhones sold every quarter.

    Note: I am not saying anyone is better. I'm saying we need to stop downplaying the competition simply because we don't like them.
    I'm not down playing anyone. I was just saying Samsung has 2 flagship phones they sell versus Apple's one. So in theory you can say Samsung is splitting their numbers between 2 flagships, so if someone is just looking at numbers of the S8 and not at the note series it could appear Apple sells more. Granted the note 8 isn't released yet, but I expect high demand for it, and the note 7 was booming untill the recall, which that recall would have killed any brand phone, but the fact people were not getting rid of them volunteer says something. I personally think Apple should be counting there blessings the note 7 was recalled, I think it would have had a big impact on their sales if the note 7 survived.
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    06-27-2017 12:13 PM
  23. swagglepuff's Avatar
    In the USA, Apple is the biggest. Especially down here in Silicon Valley, birthplace and headquarters of Apple.
    Only in the USA is apple the biggest, every where else the are small fries man. No one really cares about iPhone outside of this country. It's global sales are proof of that.
    06-27-2017 09:28 PM
  24. cwbcpa's Avatar
    Most android manufacturer (including samsung) innovate much more than apple ever does, their phone changes more year after year compared to iphones which didn't for 3 years now (probably 4th with the same design with the 8th) learning new features = innovations they try new things. Most feature that any manufacturer include are easy to learn,if you can't learn those you're probably not made for android (Not saying this in a mean way). The note is different because it appeals to different people (aka those who want/need a pen for buisiness purposes or taking well notes) having the same features year after year imho is counter intuitive no one wou'd buy the same samsung every year without changes (notice i didn't speak about iphones). Like i said alot these past couple days no one forces you to buy it, if you hate innovation that bad don't get android easy as that. IF you're about to say you can't stand iphones then just buy a cheap midrange or a highend midrange (oneplus,huawei etc). This is the beauty of android : choices there's a phone for every person in the world to like wether it be price wise or feature wise.
    I believe the person that you quoted was being sarcastic.
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    06-28-2017 05:59 AM
  25. BratPAQ's Avatar
    A lack of innovation. I'm sick of having to learn new features every time I buy a new Samsung phone. I mean why can't they just stick to the same features phone after phone? Why does the Note have to be so different from the Note 8? Come on Samsung! Just change the number on the phone and leave the features aloneñ
    I like how Apple removed a feature (headphone jack) but still makes it a bit more complicated by requiring a dongle.
    06-28-2017 06:49 AM
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