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  1. Gayle Lynn's Avatar
    Storage report Device Maintenance

    Apps 66GB
    Free space 15GB
    System / User data 48.8GB

    I was setting up podcast to download when shocked to see it say 14GB FREE on internal.

    I've tried MyFiles and Solid Explorer to see what is wrong before going through factory reset and wiping clean.

    My other Galaxy has same setup, shows
    System/user data 22GB
    Available 41GB
    Apps 6GB


    12-19-2017 06:12 AM
  2. mary beth hale's Avatar
    Google Play Store says Certified now.

    SPECIAL ACCESS is new and installing from unknown sources is not about signing.

    I have seen other users over makes running the release Oreo do have that 'feature.'
    My Google Play store still says uncertified.
    12-19-2017 10:56 AM
  3. Gayle Lynn's Avatar
    It was the program Adguard.com created a massive log file using most of the internal storage!!

    Does not happen on 7.0 or Note 8 7.1.1.
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    12-19-2017 10:57 AM
  4. mary beth hale's Avatar
    Storage report Device Maintenance

    Apps 66GB
    Free space 15GB
    System / User data 48.8GB

    I was setting up podcast to download when shocked to see it say 14GB FREE on internal.

    I've tried MyFiles and Solid Explorer to see what is wrong before going through factory reset and wiping clean.

    My other Galaxy has same setup, shows
    System/user data 22GB
    Available 41GB
    Apps 6GB


    https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...89ec888ee8.jpg
    Did you find problem/resolution?
    badcat likes this.
    12-19-2017 10:57 AM
  5. mary beth hale's Avatar
    It was the program Adguard.com created a massive log file using most of the internal storage!!

    Does not happen on 7.0 or Note 8 7.1.1.
    LOL... Think we posted at the same time when I asked if you'd resolved issue.
    Gayle Lynn and badcat like this.
    12-19-2017 10:58 AM
  6. badcat's Avatar
    My Google Play store still says uncertified.
    Same here.
    12-19-2017 03:08 PM
  7. badcat's Avatar
    It was the program Adguard.com created a massive log file using most of the internal storage!!

    Does not happen on 7.0 or Note 8 7.1.1.
    Good to see you got that sorted out.
    12-19-2017 03:09 PM
  8. pankaj981's Avatar
    Does anyone of you on the beta channel see any posts in the community app about an official release time frame? Or another beta 5? Samsung just opened beta 4 in a few more countries a couple of days ago, that implies they want more people to provide test data. That also means they might not be close to a release build.
    12-20-2017 06:32 AM
  9. tube517's Avatar
    Does anyone of you on the beta channel see any posts in the community app about an official release time frame? Or another beta 5? Samsung just opened beta 4 in a few more countries a couple of days ago, that implies they want more people to provide test data. That also means they might not be close to a release build.
    Nothing in the community app yet.

    A couple of articles said late January but I won't believe it til I see it.
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    12-20-2017 07:09 AM
  10. Gayle Lynn's Avatar
    If nothing turned up in b4 in a month, but that isn't going to happen. 8.0.0 has to be ready by the time the S9 Galaxy are ready.

    Good that b4 public beta has wider audience.
    12-20-2017 07:19 AM
  11. pankaj981's Avatar
    Nothing in the community app yet.

    A couple of articles said late January but I won't believe it til I see it.
    Looks like late Jan it is then. What baffles me is with all this delay, Samsung could've (or should've) implemented Project Treble already at least. Not sure if Oreo will bring anything new to the table for the S8.
    12-20-2017 07:44 AM
  12. Gayle Lynn's Avatar
    If a phone ships with O it has to support PT. Putting Oreo on a phone like 8 series i sent the same. Have to start the foundation.

    Android is held back and late to move beyond fat binary and then to 64-bit only.

    Monitoring background apps permissions is #14 in Sammobile Series on 8.0.

    https://www.sammobile.com/news/whats...ckground-apps/
    12-20-2017 09:32 AM
  13. mary beth hale's Avatar
    Looks like late Jan it is then. What baffles me is with all this delay, Samsung could've (or should've) implemented Project Treble already at least. Not sure if Oreo will bring anything new to the table for the S8.
    Honestly, the only 2 things that are noticeable in Oreo for me during daily use are the abilities to unlock phone with OK Google from AOD and making my recents show in list view.
    That's over-simplifying it but most of it seems to be under-the-hood stuff.
    12-20-2017 12:57 PM
  14. snowboarders's Avatar
    would be nic if samsung skips android 8.0 beta and gives us android 8.1 beta too test
    12-20-2017 07:22 PM
  15. Gayle Lynn's Avatar
    BGR esrd 8.1 was Google only to patch bugs they couldn't fix in 8.0 when the new Pixel 2 series shipped.

    Theres no 7.1.1 for galaxy 8 series even which is nice and better optomizstions.
    12-20-2017 08:35 PM
  16. mary beth hale's Avatar
    Looks like late Jan it is then. What baffles me is with all this delay, Samsung could've (or should've) implemented Project Treble already at least. Not sure if Oreo will bring anything new to the table for the S8.
    So I'm unclear about this... If they wanted to, Samsung could enable Treble for existing phones and not just new phones that ship with Oreo?
    12-20-2017 08:39 PM
  17. Gayle Lynn's Avatar
    XDA:
    https://www.xda-developers.com/proje...m-development/

    Project Treble is only supported on new devices that ship with Android, rather than devices that get upgraded to Oreo.
    http://www.zdnet.com/article/android...ck-protection/
    mary beth hale and badcat like this.
    12-21-2017 06:05 AM
  18. mary beth hale's Avatar
    XDA:
    https://www.xda-developers.com/proje...m-development/

    Project Treble is only supported on new devices that ship with Android, rather than devices that get upgraded to Oreo.
    http://www.zdnet.com/article/android...ck-protection/
    Thanks
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    12-21-2017 08:18 AM
  19. Dan_B1979's Avatar
    Thought about updating mine, but it states the latest release doesn't have working Android Pay (IMO it's better than Samsung pay) so will do without for now

    It's just updating to the latest OTA release here in the UK with the latest security patch IIRC
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    12-22-2017 04:50 AM
  20. badcat's Avatar
    Thought about updating mine, but it states the latest release doesn't have working Android Pay (IMO it's better than Samsung pay) so will do without for now

    It's just updating to the latest OTA release here in the UK with the latest security patch IIRC
    Yeah, the latest beta (four) was shipped with the Dec security patch. I'm hoping Samsung can get back to the timely security update schedule. They kind of fell off during the last few months.
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    12-22-2017 05:45 AM
  21. Gayle Lynn's Avatar
    There is a lot of hard work, as bad or worse than moving Windows to 64-bit drivers. And yet, once that is done, it will isolate the carrier layer from the system kernel - they would undertake the extra work burden without a significant improvement
    12-22-2017 09:08 AM
  22. pankaj981's Avatar
    XDA:
    https://www.xda-developers.com/proje...m-development/

    Project Treble is only supported on new devices that ship with Android, rather than devices that get upgraded to Oreo.
    http://www.zdnet.com/article/android...ck-protection/
    Project Treble is mandatory for all phones shipping with Oreo. But that doesn't mean phones updating to Oreo can't have it enabled. Essentials phone, Mate 9 already have it enabled in their betas.

    More phone links here:
    http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/11...ously-updated/

    Google had announced earlier that it's working with certain manufacturers to enable it for devices being updated to Oreo. At that time it was a wide speculation that Samsung might be one of them, especially since Samsung is one of the largest Android device manufacturers. Plus enabling it would've definitely helped with keeping the UI and under the hood OS/kernel updates separate.
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    12-22-2017 09:13 AM
  23. Gayle Lynn's Avatar
    From your article link:
    "popular phones that have received an update to Android 8.0 Oreo, but currently lack Treble support:"

    Samsung Galaxy 8's (S8/+)

    I liken it to the transition to EFI/UEFI - EFI 1.0 came out in 2005 and was 32-bit along with other features. UEFI 2.0 was 2008 but wasn't fully UEFI 2.1 compliant but was 64-bit finally.

    The device tree that Treble uses is I always thought baked into the core boot ROM and likely cannot be altered. Just like rolling back to pre-8.0.0 won't be allowed.

    So you can run 8.0, and not have Project Treble. But what that "means" is beyond me
    Funnily enough I sold my Mate 9 to get the S8+, looks like I should have hung onto it now to play with!
    12-22-2017 02:35 PM
  24. pankaj981's Avatar
    From your article link:
    "popular phones that have received an update to Android 8.0 Oreo, but currently lack Treble support:"

    Samsung Galaxy 8's (S8/+)

    I liken it to the transition to EFI/UEFI - EFI 1.0 came out in 2005 and was 32-bit along with other features. UEFI 2.0 was 2008 but wasn't fully UEFI 2.1 compliant but was 64-bit finally.

    The device tree that Treble uses is I always thought baked into the core boot ROM and likely cannot be altered. Just like rolling back to pre-8.0.0 won't be allowed.

    So you can run 8.0, and not have Project Treble. But what that "means" is beyond me
    Funnily enough I sold my Mate 9 to get the S8+, looks like I should have hung onto it now to play with!
    High level i think it has something to do with OS partition which is hard to implement. And then there's always a risk of something going wrong with the update which will require a full flash. Again I'm not that familiar with the specifics.
    12-22-2017 05:14 PM
  25. badcat's Avatar
    It has something to do with separating the device specific drivers from the OS I believe. That would make updating the OS easier because the device specific drivers would be removed from the equation as far as updating goes.

    Google's "Project Treble" will modularize Android to make updates faster

    It also looks like like two separate Android versions can co-exist at the same time.
    12-23-2017 07:59 AM
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