1. Android Central Question's Avatar
    Hey. A hacker factory reset my phone 4 times and I'm wondering how can I root my Samsung Galaxy S9+ so I can perform a deep recovery
    05-02-2020 09:41 AM
  2. mustang7757's Avatar
    Hacker doesn't reset your phone 4 times , you have something else going on with your device .

    Rooting makes your phone completely more unsafe.


    I'll leave a Link to register so you can communicate here as a guest account you can only post questions but can't reply.
    https://forums.androidcentral.com/sh...d.php?t=409154
    Golfdriver97 likes this.
    05-02-2020 09:59 AM
  3. Hollow Playz's Avatar
    There. Also It was a hacker especially I believe it because he said he was wiping my phone after I said I'm not doing this and then next thing I know a factory reset is starting
    05-02-2020 10:14 AM
  4. Mooncatt's Avatar
    There. Also It was a hacker especially I believe it because he said he was wiping my phone after I said I'm not doing this and then next thing I know a factory reset is starting
    If a hacker was somehow on your phone and factory reset, it also eliminates his method of intrusion, which leaves us two options.

    This is either a glaring problem in how you treat your phone (I.e. Installing random shady apps), or

    The hacker has access to your Google account info or similar (like a Samsung account) that allows for remote factory resets.

    In either case, rooting will not fix this problem. I would suggest you change your passwords on all accounts (using a password manager will greatly help with this), and only download apps from the Play store or trusted sources (like direct from a developer).
    Golfdriver97 likes this.
    05-02-2020 10:30 AM
  5. mustang7757's Avatar
    I agree with Mooncat, change all account passwords
    05-02-2020 11:15 AM
  6. Hollow Playz's Avatar
    Well my account was hacked by the hacker because he manipulated me into giving him auth codes
    05-02-2020 12:09 PM
  7. Mooncatt's Avatar
    Well my account was hacked by the hacker because he manipulated me into giving him auth codes
    That has nothing to do with rooting, and everything to do with account security. Change all of your phone related passwords, including your Google and any manufacturer account passwords, and enable two factor authentication where possible. This is a good guide and discussion on password management if you needed additional info.

    https://forums.androidcentral.com/sh...d.php?t=899430

    Give that a try and let us know how it goes.
    blackhawkhot likes this.
    05-02-2020 12:20 PM
  8. blackhawkhot's Avatar
    Well my account was hacked by the hacker because he manipulated me into giving him auth codes
    Meh, you leaned a valuable lessons from the school of hard knocks... I hope.
    You allowed yourself to be manipulated... own it, move on, and never repeat the mistake.
    05-02-2020 12:25 PM
  9. Mike Dee's Avatar
    Well my account was hacked by the hacker because he manipulated me into giving him auth codes
    Change your passwords and codes and stop allowing yourself to be manipulated.
    blackhawkhot likes this.
    05-02-2020 12:25 PM
  10. Hollow Playz's Avatar
    Either way how can I root my samsung s9? I need to recover my files
    05-02-2020 12:52 PM
  11. mustang7757's Avatar
    Either way how can I root my samsung s9? I need to recover my files
    If you have a Us version don't think you can , can check XDA Forums , not guaranteed you'll get what you want, and learn how to go back to stock firmware , because as a beginner you will mess something up.
    Golfdriver97 likes this.
    05-02-2020 12:55 PM
  12. Hollow Playz's Avatar
    Research said I can do a deep recovery for my old files with root
    05-02-2020 01:02 PM
  13. mustang7757's Avatar
    Research said I can do a deep recovery for my old files with root
    Also as a good advice, make back ups multiple places , Samsung cloud ,on SD card ,Google cloud , computer etc ..will avoid issues like lost pictures, files .
    05-02-2020 01:11 PM
  14. Hollow Playz's Avatar
    ..How come my question keeps being ignored ..
    05-02-2020 01:13 PM
  15. mustang7757's Avatar
    ..How come my question keeps being ignored ..
    Its not being ignored , we are more to help on stock firmware issues, you go beyond that like root and custom recovery you need xda forums as they more geared towards that stuff
    blackhawkhot likes this.
    05-02-2020 01:15 PM
  16. B. Diddy's Avatar
    I moved this to the S9 forum for more specific traffic.
    05-02-2020 02:06 PM
  17. Mooncatt's Avatar
    Mustang is right, XDA is really your best bet for rooting questions. I can say that rooting usually requires a full factory reset, which will make data recovery virtually impossible. Yes, it is more likely you can recover files on a rooted phone, but only if that phone was already rooted prior to the data loss.
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    05-02-2020 02:08 PM
  18. blackhawkhot's Avatar
    Mustang is right, XDA is really your best bet for rooting questions. I can say that rooting usually requires a full factory reset, which will make data recovery virtually impossible. Yes, it is more likely you can recover files on a rooted phone, but only if that phone was already rooted prior to the data loss.
    Are there "erased" file recovery tools for internal memory for rooted phones?
    Even if so you still loss the file structure; thousands of randomized files?
    Been there, done that.
    05-02-2020 02:31 PM
  19. Golfdriver97's Avatar
    Welcome to the forums.

    How come my question keeps being ignored ..
    To a degree, they haven't been. However:

    Been a while since I delved into rooting....
    Research said I can do a deep recovery for my old files with root
    Possible? Yes. Success rate is the better question. As you delete files, they are marked for overwriting. Meaning, as you add files, the deleted files marked for overwriting may possibly be overwritten by new files. This includes files needed for root access.

    Here is a rather big wrench thrown into the mix: The multiple resets done between then and now. I'm going to admit...I don't know what happens to files marked as deleted after a reset. For all I know, there could be a quick reformat done during the reset process, in which case, the chances of recovering the files drop drastically. Sure, some data could be recovered as a quick format doesn't completely wipe the files unlike actually going through and replacing all 1s to 0s, on the binary level. But, it's still damage done so to speak. And 4 times over.

    Samsungs have become a tough nut to crack when it comes to rooting. Partially due to Knox, partially due to the reasons to root aren't as numerous as there were back in say 2012. The base OS can do a lot that isn't root required.


    This is either a glaring problem in how you treat your phone (I.e. Installing random shady apps), or

    The hacker has access to your Google account info or similar (like a Samsung account) that allows for remote factory resets.
    I'm inclined to agree here, as the opportunity to do further resets is eliminated if the device was just hacked:

    If a hacker was somehow on your phone and factory reset, it also eliminates his method of intrusion, which leaves us two options.
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    05-03-2020 11:35 AM
  20. Golfdriver97's Avatar
    Are there "erased" file recovery tools for internal memory for rooted phones?
    Probably. But the thing is, once a file is marked to be overwritten, rooting the phone, adding the app all contribute to additional files being added which overwrite ones marked as deleted.

    The better rooting methods are installing a custom recovery and installing a root zip file in said recovery. If memory serves, a reset is highly suggested after rooting.

    A general question: Are Samsung bootloaders locked? If so, unlocking is another factory reset, and that is unavoidable.
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    05-03-2020 11:39 AM
  21. mustang7757's Avatar
    Research said I can do a deep recovery for my old files with root
    See this thread just now , what I was warning about Root what happens ..and why I said learn to go back to stock firmware incase something happens. It's not like ok I put a 3rd party launcher and I don't like it so I'll take it off. When you Root you give full permission to change anything on the phone and that's where problems happen if you don't have little experience. https://forums.androidcentral.com/sh...d.php?t=660793
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    05-03-2020 12:06 PM
  22. Mooncatt's Avatar
    I don't know what happens to files marked as deleted after a reset. For all I know, there could be a quick reformat done during the reset process, in which case, the chances of recovering the files drop drastically.
    In current versions of Android, the file system is encrypted from the first boot up. When a factory reset is done, it erases the encryption key. So even if we assume the data we want to recover isn't deleted as part of the reset, it's still in an encrypted state and the key is gone. If, and this is a big IF, there is any recoverable data left, it would need forensics level software to break the encryption. Even that may not be enough.

    The default encryption was implemented just for this reason. A test was done on some discarded phones that had been factory reset, and the group found an alarming amount of recoverable data. If the phone was manually encrypted by the user, it wasn't an issue.
    05-03-2020 01:22 PM
  23. mustang7757's Avatar
    In current versions of Android, the file system is encrypted from the first boot up. When a factory reset is done, it erases the encryption key. So even if we assume the data we want to recover isn't deleted as part of the reset, it's still in an encrypted state and the key is gone. If, and this is a big IF, there is any recoverable data left, it would need forensics level software to break the encryption. Even that may not be enough.

    The default encryption was implemented just for this reason. A test was done on some discarded phones that had been factory reset, and the group found an alarming amount of recoverable data. If the phone was manually encrypted by the user, it wasn't an issue.
    I agree
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    05-03-2020 01:35 PM
  24. blackhawkhot's Avatar
    In current versions of Android, the file system is encrypted from the first boot up. When a factory reset is done, it erases the encryption key. So even if we assume the data we want to recover isn't deleted as part of the reset, it's still in an encrypted state and the key is gone. If, and this is a big IF, there is any recoverable data left, it would need forensics level software to break the encryption. Even that may not be enough.

    The default encryption was implemented just for this reason. A test was done on some discarded phones that had been factory reset, and the group found an alarming amount of recoverable data. If the phone was manually encrypted by the user, it wasn't an issue.
    The file system but not the files.
    The biggest issue I've had is you lose the file system structure for those files once you erase the files or if the file system gets corrupted.
    The files can be recovered but it's it's hundreds, thousands or more of random files. You need to file structure preserved to provide any practical meaning for the files. You can recover jpegs but there exif data is MIA.
    Fine if that one jpeg is invaluable otherwise not worth it.
    So it goes with most of the recovered files.
    More than any sane human would want to attempt to sort out even if you could put the huge jigsaw puzzle back together.

    Back it now at least 2X's; 3X's is better if it's critical.
    Keep the backup drives physically separated from the device and each other when not backing them up.
    -Never- access back up data drives with a trojan/virus/malware compromised machine; they can spread like wildfire in a second.
    Been there, done that. Had one clean copy left when the dust settled... fun times.
    mustang7757 likes this.
    05-03-2020 02:36 PM
  25. Galactic Zoo's Avatar
    If you are concerned about security, the last thing you want to do is root your phone.
    blackhawkhot and mustang7757 like this.
    05-04-2020 06:33 AM

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