03-11-2018 05:11 AM
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  1. rushmore's Avatar
    That's fine .. I still disagree with someone being hearing impaired simply because they didn't agree with your assessment.

    Not sure what the rockets line is about but .. kay.
    If it were just a rube like me saying it- agreed. In this case, MK is a professional for reviews and made the comparative comment. Compare the devices and then please see if you agree. Not a case of subjective sonic nit-picking. The S8/8+ sound spectrum is almost all mid-range and muddy and the S9/9+ covers the low end decently (for a phone) and the mids and highs are distinct with music. The S9+ fairs a tad better than the S9.

    This is the first time I recall disagreeing with MK, but seems to stand out. Perhaps because I normally do agree with him. That all said, the good speakers, 30% (ish) faster chip and better camera are not enough for me to jump. Want 128GB like the UK and an RGB pixel array for better Gear VR.

    Really liking the speaker and camera set-up though..... If the US got the 128GB option, must admit I would probably jump. Best Buy has had them a few days now.
    03-02-2018 08:16 AM
  2. Almeuit's Avatar
    If it were just a rube like me saying it- agreed. In this case, MK is a professional for reviews and made the comparative comment. Compare the devices and then please see if you agree. Not a case of subjective sonic nit-picking. The S8/8+ sound spectrum is almost all mid-range and muddy and the S9/9+ covers the low end decently (for a phone) and the mids and highs are distinct with music. The S9+ fairs a tad better than the S9.

    This is the first time I recall disagreeing with MK, but seems to stand out. Perhaps because I normally do agree with him. That all said, the good speakers, 30% (ish) faster chip and better camera are not enough for me to jump. Want 128GB like the UK and an RGB pixel array for better Gear VR.

    Really liking the speaker and camera set-up though..... If the US got the 128GB option, must admit I would probably jump. Best Buy has had them a few days now.
    Professional reviewer doesn't mean he has to agree with your opinions. Hence why there are multiple reviewers instead of 1. Still disagree with him being "hearing impaired" simply because he doesn't agree with you. Big difference in thinking someone is wrong and then saying they have a disability.. simply because they don't share your opinion lol.
    03-02-2018 09:09 AM
  3. jhimmel's Avatar
    Professional reviewer doesn't mean he has to agree with your opinions. Hence why there are multiple reviewers instead of 1. Still disagree with him being "hearing impaired" simply because he doesn't agree with you. Big difference in thinking someone is wrong and then saying they have a disability.. simply because they don't share your opinion lol.
    I don't think he's saying he's hearing impaired simply because he doesn't agree with him. He's saying he's hearing impaired because he can't detect a quite obvious difference in sound performance between the S8 and S9. I didn't test them, so I don't know. Just clarifying. Now if the vast majority of people can hear a distinct and noticeable difference between the two, and the reviewer can not, it could very well mean that his hearing is impaired. :-)
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    03-02-2018 11:47 AM
  4. Almeuit's Avatar
    I don't think he's saying he's hearing impaired simply because he doesn't agree with him. He's saying he's hearing impaired because he can't detect a quite obvious difference in sound performance between the S8 and S9. I didn't test them, so I don't know. Just clarifying. Now if the vast majority of people can hear a distinct and noticeable difference between the two, and the reviewer can not, it could very well mean that his hearing is impaired. :-)
    It "could" sure .. But I prefer to talk about actual things versus just assuming stuff about people . I have learned from sound comparisons it will definitely vary from person to person. He is saying he is hearing impaired based on what he thinks... As in he doesn't agree w/ rush so therefore he is hearing impaired.

    Also MKBHD didn't say "Omg these speakers are the worst" or anything. He literally said "The speaker got a slight improvement, but it is in the same placement at the bottom of the phone. They added stereo listening with this earpiece one at the top of the phone... and from listening to it it is a bit louder but not significantly better in quality or anything".

    So he didn't say it was worse.. he just said it isn't "significantly" better. Also to be fair this is a "first look" type of thing. The full review he usually dives more.

    Reviewers can be wrong. I disagree with them all the time from reviewer to reviewer... I am just not going to instantly call someone hearing impaired simply because I disagree on one point out of the whole video.
    03-02-2018 11:58 AM
  5. rushmore's Avatar
    I don't think he's saying he's hearing impaired simply because he doesn't agree with him. He's saying he's hearing impaired because he can't detect a quite obvious difference in sound performance between the S8 and S9. I didn't test them, so I don't know. Just clarifying. Now if the vast majority of people can hear a distinct and noticeable difference between the two, and the reviewer can not, it could very well mean that his hearing is impaired. :-)
    This. At store now testing more. Looks like FM radio function was nixed, or blocked on current demo. Worked for 8+ demo last year and of course does now on the 8+.

    Added: Case in point. This is another reviewer I trust- He normally dogs Samsung phones for one reason or another. Hint: It's the speakers that makes him like it.

    03-02-2018 12:05 PM
  6. buzzy3970's Avatar
    We're you at the unpacked event thus had access to the demo models?
    No have connections with someone at Samsung so have been able to try it out 2 weeks prior to unpacked.
    03-02-2018 04:20 PM
  7. rushmore's Avatar
    No have connections with someone at Samsung so have been able to try it out 2 weeks prior to unpacked.
    Speaking of demos, hope the FM radio is not disabled on the retail versions. Handy in data challenged areas.
    03-03-2018 06:07 PM
  8. Vega007's Avatar
    I have only been able to hear the speaker difference from various videos on YouTube and it is obvious the sound is more full, but not by much. I would imagine he was just unimpressed, considering how good the Pixel 2 and iPhones do stereo sound. I mean honestly, the way Samsung is creating the stereo sound is the same way people from XDA hack phones to force the earpiece to produce sound.
    03-03-2018 09:25 PM
  9. jasonb's Avatar
    Played with the S9+ at a Best Buy. I’m trading in my iPhone 8+ for one. Have a black s9+ on preorder from T-Mobile. I had an S8 for a while. Now I was in a noisy store but the speakers on the S9+ sounded good to me, and I’m used to the stereo speakers on the iPhone 8+. I absolutely hate this iPhone and can’t wait to have an android again. Super excited for it for many reasons, one big one being the bluetooth and being able to use LDAC with my Sony bluetooth headphones.
    03-04-2018 12:47 PM
  10. rushmore's Avatar
    I have only been able to hear the speaker difference from various videos on YouTube and it is obvious the sound is more full, but not by much. I would imagine he was just unimpressed, considering how good the Pixel 2 and iPhones do stereo sound. I mean honestly, the way Samsung is creating the stereo sound is the same way people from XDA hack phones to force the earpiece to produce sound.
    Comparing via YouTube is not going to give a proper comparison for audio or video. Comparing needs to be in person
    03-04-2018 12:57 PM
  11. Vega007's Avatar
    Comparing via YouTube is not going to give a proper comparison for audio or video. Comparing needs to be in person
    Making due with what is available.
    03-04-2018 06:35 PM
  12. amyf27's Avatar
    Played with the S9+ at a Best Buy. I’m trading in my iPhone 8+ for one. Have a black s9+ on preorder from T-Mobile. I had an S8 for a while. Now I was in a noisy store but the speakers on the S9+ sounded good to me, and I’m used to the stereo speakers on the iPhone 8+. I absolutely hate this iPhone and can’t wait to have an android again. Super excited for it for many reasons, one big one being the bluetooth and being able to use LDAC with my Sony bluetooth headphones.
    Maybe they'll ship early again like they did for the Note8
    03-04-2018 06:47 PM
  13. jasonb's Avatar
    Maybe they'll ship early again like they did for the Note8
    How early? 3/13 to 3/15 is what T-Mobile tells me is their ship date, and it’ll be shipped with next day shipping. So I guess I could see it as early as 3/14, which is my birthday, so that would be pretty awesome.
    03-04-2018 07:01 PM
  14. amyf27's Avatar
    How early? 3/13 to 3/15 is what T-Mobile tells me is their ship date, and it’ll be shipped with next day shipping. So I guess I could see it as early as 3/14, which is my birthday, so that would be pretty awesome.
    Well - what is the official release date where they're available in stores to get? WhenI preordered the Note 8, I got it Sept 7 which was like a week or a little more earlier than the release date.
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    03-04-2018 07:03 PM
  15. rushmore's Avatar
    Making due with what is available.
    Cool, just pointing out at the mercy then of the settings of the source and also the device used to compare when watching. Can give a false impression in either direction.

    Kind of like when people call QVC and comment how a product sounds or the picture quality while watching the show. The source and device used to watch is constrained to some degree, so can not really be objective. Only looking and listening in person provides a relatively objective view.
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    03-05-2018 09:16 AM
  16. anon(5506951)'s Avatar
    I was at my local AT&T store today looking at the S9+. Of course, I tested the audio through the headphone jack with my 32 ohm earbuds. The sound was very loud, to where it doesn't need to be at max volume at all, yet I hardly noticed any distortion at max volume. Dolby Atmos toggled on definitely makes a difference. The Adapt Sound setting allows you to set your own custom sound profile based on your hearing.

    I personally still prefer BoomSound, only because there's just something about how music sounds as if it was first deconstructed, then reconstructed so that you hear every instrument individually, yet as a whole. It also has just the right amount of punch from the bass without being annoying, and there's absolutely no distortion at max volume.

    Still, I'm thinking with a quality headset, most people will be fine. Although you might experience distortion at higher volumes with higher impedance earbuds or headphones, since it's plenty loud, even at the level Samsung's set before you get the warning. I think they did well.
    03-05-2018 03:54 PM
  17. rushmore's Avatar
    Tested the 9+ today with the Pixel 2 XL and iPhone X at a local Verizon store. Speaker output for music and movies is noticeably better than both of those devices. Also better than my Moto X Pure, which had good front firing speakers. Please test in a more quiet place like an AT&T or Verizon store, rather than a loud acoustically challenged Best Buy. 9+ has surprisingly good sounding speakers, even after nitpicking them.

    Added: Not particularity a fan of non in-person audio or visual comparisons, but the OP used a Hidef set-up to capture the audio comparison (presuming the user is also streaming and listening in Hidef). Even to a non audio buff, the sound quality stands out. Far more so in person. TE is a good source for audio reference.



    TechGuy also posted comparisons of the iPhone X and Pixel XL2. Both clearly confirm the S9+ speakers sound far better than either.
    03-05-2018 07:59 PM
  18. t11rmh's Avatar
    On my opinion it is just louder with more of the same quality from two speakers.
    03-11-2018 03:47 AM
  19. lucianus_luciferus's Avatar
    the speakers are loud and there is a noticeable bass. i don't even have to set the volume up to max to feel that.
    same when listening to headphones. max volume is too loud for me.
    03-11-2018 05:11 AM
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