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  1. Quick Cal's Avatar
    So can you transfer the 4k video from the internal storage to the sd card using the phone.

    I'm planning a cross country trip on my Goldwing. I would hate to only be able to shoot only so much 4k footage. You would have to pick and choose what gets 4k,,,lol.
    03-06-2018 10:23 PM
  2. Gayle Lynn's Avatar
    Some USB-C if only there was 512GB or even 2TB.

    Samsung MUF-128DA2/WW USB Type-C 3.1 Flash Drive, 128 GB, Black - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XXQKRMZ...cUvbUpU6181884
    03-07-2018 07:50 AM
  3. Quick Cal's Avatar
    After recording in 4k for the 5 or 10 minute time limit, is the internal storage full?
    03-07-2018 08:24 AM
  4. Extremevl's Avatar
    After recording in 4k for the 5 or 10 minute time limit, is the internal storage full?
    Not at all

    The S9/S9+ come with 64GB of internal memory for the North American models which leaves around 55GB or so out the box (OS takes a little chunk).

    Based off this link (https://www.imore.com/how-shoot-trim...k-video-iphone) it shows that 4K@60FPS should take up around 400MB of memory per minute. This means you should be able to take slightly over 2 hours of 4K@60FPS video which would take up around 48GB - 52GB of memory.

    The 5 minute 4K@60FPS video recording limit is set by the software but there is no official word from Samsung or Qualcomm explaining why the S9/S9+ have this limit.

    The Qualcomm 845 chip has the raw power (https://www.qualcomm.com/products/sn...obile-platform) so I assume it's a power management or battery safety concern issue (phone heating up, etc)...
    03-07-2018 08:47 AM
  5. Quick Cal's Avatar

    Not at all

    The S9/S9+ come with 64GB of internal memory for the North American models which leaves around 55GB or so out the box (OS takes a little chunk).

    Based off this link it shows that 4K@60FPS should take up around 400MB of memory per minute. This means you should be able to take slightly over 2 hours of 4K@60FPS video which would take up around 48GB - 52GB of memory.

    https://www.imore.com/how-shoot-trim...k-video-iphone

    The 5 minute 4K@60FPS video recording limit is set by the software but there is no official word from Samsung or Qualcomm explaining why the S9/S9+ have this limit...


    Thank you for that.

    So after the 5 minutes will the camera just stop dead and you have to restart it. Or will it just make separate files automatically like some dslr's do and keep filming.
    03-07-2018 09:09 AM
  6. Extremevl's Avatar
    Thank you for that.

    So after the 5 minutes will the camera just stop dead and you have to restart it. Or will it just make separate files automatically like some dslr's do and keep filming.
    I'm wondering that myself, none of the videos that I've seen show what happens at the 5 minute mark.

    I'm assuming it will stop the video and make you restart a new one because if it just makes a separate file but keeps recording then it wouldn't make sense to have the 5 minute limit in the first place.
    03-07-2018 09:17 AM
  7. Quick Cal's Avatar
    I'm wondering that myself, none of the videos that I've seen show what happens at the 5 minute mark.

    I'm assuming it will stop the video and make you restart a new one because if it just makes a separate file but keeps recording then it wouldn't make sense to have the 5 minute limit in the first place.


    My son found something about why dslr's make separate files. It was due to the sd card. Something about fatfile or something. I can't find the info now.
    03-07-2018 09:22 AM
  8. Extremevl's Avatar
    My son found something about why dslr's make separate files. It was due to the sd card. Something about fatfile or something. I can't find the info now.
    Interesting, do you know if DSLR's have to stop recording once they hit that limit or do they just makes a new file instantly so you don't have to stop recording?
    03-07-2018 09:24 AM
  9. Quick Cal's Avatar
    Interesting, do you know if DSLR's have to stop recording once they hit that limit or do they just makes a new file instantly so you don't have to stop recording?
    From what I read they keep recording. When you download it i's mov1, mov2, mov3, and so on.

    Hmmm. I have dslr. Might be time for an experiment. Well scratch that. It doesn't shoot 4k,,,lol.
    03-07-2018 01:39 PM
  10. Extremevl's Avatar
    From what I read they keep recording. When you download it i's mov1, mov2, mov3, and so on.

    Hmmm. I have dslr. Might be time for an experiment. Well scratch that. It doesn't shoot 4k,,,lol.
    That wouldn't be too bad if you could keep recording but then I wonder why you couldn't just record continuously like the iPhone X...I'm thinking it's a heat issue.
    03-07-2018 02:09 PM
  11. Fred98TJ's Avatar

    Not at all

    The S9/S9+ come with 64GB of internal memory for the North American models which leaves around 55GB or so out the box (OS takes a little chunk).

    Based off this link (https://www.imore.com/how-shoot-trim...k-video-iphone) it shows that 4K@60FPS should take up around 400MB of memory per minute. This means you should be able to take slightly over 2 hours of 4K@60FPS video which would take up around 48GB - 52GB of memory.

    The 5 minute 4K@60FPS video recording limit is set by the software but there is no official word from Samsung or Qualcomm explaining why the S9/S9+ have this limit.

    The Qualcomm 845 chip has the raw power (https://www.qualcomm.com/products/sn...obile-platform) so I assume it's a power management or battery safety concern issue (phone heating up, etc)...
    And those files sizes are based on the fact that the iPhone 8, 8+ and X use HEVC formatting for 4k@60 files. Does the S9 have HEVC file format storage ? If not then the file sizes on the S9 are going to be a lot larger.
    03-07-2018 05:06 PM
  12. Extremevl's Avatar
    And those files sizes are based on the fact that the iPhone 8, 8+ and X use HEVC formatting for 4k@60 files. Does the S9 have HEVC file format storage ? If not then the file sizes on the S9 are going to be a lot larger.
    I don't know what formatting the S/S9+ uses but Phone Arena says -

    "not to mention the amount of internal memory the footage will occupy at that length anyway, even in the high-efficiency video format that the S9 recordings support"

    https://www.phonearena.com/news/Gala...ormat_id102945

    I don't know if that means they use the HEVC file format storage or something similar?
    03-07-2018 07:29 PM
  13. Fred98TJ's Avatar
    After poking around some it appears that the S9 (and Plus) use HEVC (H.265) storage format, which is probably a given when recording at 4k@69fps. With the “old” H.264 format the file sizes would be massive.
    03-08-2018 08:05 PM
  14. Extremevl's Avatar
    After poking around some it appears that the S9 (and Plus) use HEVC (H.265) storage format, which is probably a given when recording at 4k@69fps. With the “old” H.264 format the file sizes would be massive.
    Nice, thank you!
    03-08-2018 08:41 PM
  15. rahool360's Avatar
    oh thats a bumper ...limiting time for recording videos!!!
    03-08-2018 09:45 PM
  16. CKwik240's Avatar
    I'm thinking it could be to help with post processing. I edit some 4K videos occasionally on my desktop (3.2 ghz core i7, 12 gb ram, geforce gtx 1070 video card and it still takes a couple of hours to process long videos (took nearly 24 hours before I upgraded my antiquated workstation video card). I can't even imagine trying to do that on a phone.
    03-09-2018 01:39 AM
  17. Fred98TJ's Avatar
    Also the iPhone X has a dedicated ISP (hardware) for image processing, noise reduction, etc. I think maybe the Samsung’s limit has to do with a combo of heating and the inability to process the images (4k@60) fast enough so its buffer slowly fills and maybe even a inability to write the data fast enough to memory.
    03-09-2018 03:43 AM
  18. Chadwick Carlisle's Avatar
    That wouldn't be too bad if you could keep recording but then I wonder why you couldn't just record continuously like the iPhone X...I'm thinking it's a heat issue.
    DSLRs cut footage because the fat32 sd file format can only produce 4gb files or lower. The S9+ (as I can speak on the one that I own) CAN and does write to external sd cards. I have a 256 EVO so it is more than fast enough. Ill try with a slower card to see if it creates a limitation.

    As for the 5 min limit, as a filmmaker and photographer, this is MORE than enough to shoot scenes to be edited for film or television or web. If youre looking for a longer option for say a wedding or a dissertation, use a lower resolution as it will increase continuous recording time... for instance FHD 1920x1080 doesnt give me a limitation.
    10-19-2018 08:10 PM
  19. Dominick_A99's Avatar
    My unlocked Samsung Galaxy S9 plus doesn't show me any options at all to go to 4k idk why because I been trying the past few days. I need someone help with this please and thank you!
    03-16-2019 01:23 AM
  20. lucianus_luciferus's Avatar
    Open camera, go to settings, rear video resolution
    03-16-2019 06:38 AM
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