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  1. arunma's Avatar
    Got the update this morning for my T-Mobile LTE Galaxy Watch this morning. I'll let everyone know how the battery drain and deep sleep are over the next couple days.
    02-23-2019 07:52 AM
  2. arunma's Avatar
    Oh, new build number is R805USQU1BSA7.
    02-23-2019 07:58 AM
  3. Greymire's Avatar
    Got the update this morning for my T-Mobile LTE Galaxy Watch this morning. I'll let everyone know how the battery drain and deep sleep are over the next couple days.
    Heart rate should be improved though I had my first "freeze" in heart rate yesterday since the update. I rebooted and it's fine. It was stuck at 115 when it was only 69. I Che ked with my BP cuff. I guess only one since the update isn't bad and it could have been the watch face as it was new.
    02-23-2019 07:58 AM
  4. arunma's Avatar
    Heart rate should be improved though I had my first "freeze" in heart rate yesterday since the update. I rebooted and it's fine. It was stuck at 115 when it was only 69. I Che ked with my BP cuff. I guess only one since the update isn't bad and it could have been the watch face as it was new.
    Thanks for the info. I'm going for a jog on the treadmill in a bit. I'll be very impressed if it goes a full half hour with out an HRM cutout. That was always a major annoyance for my watch.

    I can't wait for the snow to melt so I can go outdoors and see if how the battery does when streaming music over LTE.
    02-23-2019 09:00 AM
  5. Greymire's Avatar
    Thanks for the info. I'm going for a jog on the treadmill in a bit. I'll be very impressed if it goes a full half hour with out an HRM cutout. That was always a major annoyance for my watch.

    I can't wait for the snow to melt so I can go outdoors and see if how the battery does when streaming music over LTE.
    I would not expect it to be great. I have the Bluetooth model but streaming Tidal with the watch was less than stellar. In Samsung defense I am a bit of an audiofile and think every watch is less than what I want for streaming (I use an LG V40 with quad dac for walks and prefer wired headphones for audio but will use Bluetooth at times). I have found the volume on the Galaxy Watch to be lacking when streaming.
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    02-23-2019 09:48 AM
  6. ElRey18's Avatar
    I got the update. Went for a 1.6 mile run today and it held heartrate for the first time since i got the watch. So far the update looks promising. Still need to see how battery fairs
    02-23-2019 10:21 AM
  7. skatergirl's Avatar
    Yay, yay, yay!
    02-23-2019 11:21 AM
  8. arunma's Avatar
    Went for my usual 30 minute run with a Bluetooth connection to my watch and nothing except activity tracking (treadmill in this case). The HRM cut out a couple times, but recovered within a few seconds without me having to stop and hold my arm steady. This is much better than average, but I've done runs in the past where I had no problems (however rarely). So I'm cautiously optimistic! As for the battery, dropped by 3%, which again is fairly normal.
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    02-23-2019 12:57 PM
  9. sonnnet's Avatar
    Went for my usual 30 minute run with a Bluetooth connection to my watch and nothing except activity tracking (treadmill in this case). The HRM cut out a couple times, but recovered within a few seconds without me having to stop and hold my arm steady. This is much better than average, but I've done runs in the past where I had no problems (however rarely). So I'm cautiously optimistic! As for the battery, dropped by 3%, which again is fairly normal.
    Great to hear you guys have finally got the update

    HR is improved but not solved though if BSA7 is akin to BSA4.

    BUT.... This spectacular app solves HR tracking for fitness. I will bore you with the details (and lots of perfect HR graphs) if you are curious!

    I guess you will probably want to test the new software as it is though, and if all's good, you won't need the app.

    Anyway, this is it and there will be an update to it very soon which will make it even better, so best to hold out til then if you are considering it.

    http://apps.samsung.com/gear/appDeta...pId=ye0lz9RwAz
    02-23-2019 04:42 PM
  10. Greymire's Avatar
    Health issues only allow me to walk/water exercise. I stopped after a Pulmonary Embolism but was cleared to walk but then cold weather set in. Hopefully I will start again in a few weeks. Other than one freeze at 118 (when my heart rate was 64 by my BP cup) it has been great for me. Of course I have not been as active. I was walking 7 to 8 miles a day before my PE and have just done a few mile walks lately and distance and HR seemed consistent.
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    02-23-2019 04:52 PM
  11. sonnnet's Avatar
    Health issues only allow me to walk/water exercise. I stopped after a Pulmonary Embolism but was cleared to walk but then cold weather set in. Hopefully I will start again in a few weeks. Other than one freeze at 118 (when my heart rate was 64 by my BP cup) it has been great for me. Of course I have not been as active. I was walking 7 to 8 miles a day before my PE and have just done a few mile walks lately and distance and HR seemed consistent.
    Good for you @Greymire - great to hear on the recovery/ fitness front.
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    02-23-2019 04:56 PM
  12. skatergirl's Avatar
    Good for you @Greymire - great to hear on the recovery/ fitness front.
    I second that!
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    02-23-2019 05:11 PM
  13. sonnnet's Avatar
    I would not expect it to be great. I have the Bluetooth model but streaming Tidal with the watch was less than stellar. In Samsung defense I am a bit of an audiofile and think every watch is less than what I want for streaming (I use an LG V40 with quad dac for walks and prefer wired headphones for audio but will use Bluetooth at times). I have found the volume on the Galaxy Watch to be lacking when streaming.
    I've been very pleasantly surprised with Galaxy Watch audio. Far better than I ever expected before buying the watch. I wouldn't say I'm an audiophile but I am musical and have played piano, drums and percussion all my life so music is very important to me. On the watch I listen to Spotify offline which is obviously very compressed (but very cleverly) and through Bluetooth earphones, so there's inherent quality loss there, too, as you know. But for pounding dance tracks while I'm running, it does a great job, especially the bass output, and it's nicely layered along with the vocals and the high treble hi-hats, for instance. As for volume, incredibly the Galaxy Watch is slightly louder than my Note 9!

    Just to check, no doubt you know this already but when playing music, I ramp the volume on the watch up to maximum (beyond the warning it gives you that it can be dangerous), then turn it down a bit (or not) via the BT headphones. This gives the best source quality.
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    02-23-2019 05:11 PM
  14. arunma's Avatar
    Did another workout this evening, but I swapped out my leather watchband for the default silicone that comes with the watch. It provides a slightly tighter fit, which in the past has never made a difference. But even the short-term cutouts that I saw in the HRM this morning did not appear, and I got continuous heart rate readings throughout the entire thirty minutes.

    Time to see if the deep sleep monitoring is any better tonight! I'll try one night with my usual leather band and one night with the tighter silicone to see if there's any difference. I don't expect it though, since sleep tracking doesn't require high-resolution heart rate readings.
    02-23-2019 09:12 PM
  15. ElRey18's Avatar
    I tried sleep tracking again for the first time in a while. It actually picked up on Deep sleep where before it would not. I compared it to my prior fitbit outputs and it's not far off from what it stated. Will have to try again over some nights to see if this update holds up. So far so good
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    02-24-2019 08:19 AM
  16. arunma's Avatar
    I've been sleep tracking every night since Galaxy Watch release day, and this is the first time I've gotten 54 minutes of deep sleep recorded. Looks like the tracker has been fixed!
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    02-24-2019 08:38 AM
  17. skatergirl's Avatar
    Glad your sleep trackers are working better. I am still not satisfied with the step tracker. I am sideloading the Pie update right now on my Note 9. Apparently there is code for the Galaxy watch in this update. Not holding my breath. At least the watch is pretty.
    02-24-2019 11:14 AM
  18. arunma's Avatar
    Glad your sleep trackers are working better. I am still not satisfied with the step tracker. I am sideloading the Pie update right now on my Note 9. Apparently there is code for the Galaxy watch in this update. Not holding my breath. At least the watch is pretty.
    Yeah, so about that step tracking issue...

    Due to all the snowstorms I've been doing my workouts on a treadmill the past month, which is a good opportunity to test the step tracker every day under identical circumstances. A 30 minute workout at 6.5 miles per hour used to give me around 4,300 steps. Today I got 4,400, which is within the day-to-day variation that I generally see (or "less than one standard deviation from the mean" for any statistics people here). Not sure what to make of this without a baseline measurement of the actual number of steps taken during my workout. I guess they could have fixed the logic so that it doesn't record spurious step counts from moving your arms around while sitting down. Or maybe it was having trouble recording steps taken in other contexts, and that's been fixed. I'm greatly looking forward to being able to go outside again and see how my watch performs during a run with the new software.
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    02-24-2019 11:21 AM
  19. arunma's Avatar
    BTW, T-Mobile updated their software updates page:

    https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-38218

    Finally we know what was in this update. Looks like they fixed a battery drain issue that I didn't even know existed. Maybe my watch will lose less than 20% power when I stream music for half an hour while using continuous GPS. Because other than that I don't really have any complaints with the battery.

    Step count logic and speech-to-text are pretty self-explanatory. But what's the deal with "wireless charging support?" Are they perhaps referring to support for the Galaxy S10's PowerShare feature?
    02-24-2019 11:27 AM
  20. skatergirl's Avatar
    BTW, T-Mobile updated their software updates page:

    https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-38218

    Finally we know what was in this update. Looks like they fixed a battery drain issue that I didn't even know existed. Maybe my watch will lose less than 20% power when I stream music for half an hour while using continuous GPS. Because other than that I don't really have any complaints with the battery.

    Step count logic and speech-to-text are pretty self-explanatory. But what's the deal with "wireless charging support?" Are they perhaps referring to support for the Galaxy S10's PowerShare feature?
    Verizon has not updated its software page yet, but interesting to see step count logic. In my opinion, the best logic to apply would be to use proven code, such as what was in the Gear S 2 and stop trying to reinvent the wheel.

    I have noticed, even since the update, that my step count starts to degrade as the time goes during a workout. This does not happen with the counter on my phone, so I know it is not me slowing down.

    I just updated to Pie, so we will see if this helps at all.
    02-24-2019 12:05 PM
  21. skatergirl's Avatar
    As I just said the the T-Mobile thread, one thing I have really noticed since the update is how the step tracker seems wide awake when I first start my workout, but 35-40 minutes into it the pace slows. Not my pace, but the watch pace. I have still been using my phone for testing and for making sure I get my steps. My phone pace does not slow.

    I just updated to Pie. We will see if this helps. If not, I guess it is going to be a long year or two until some other manufacturer steps up and brings me a different choice.
    02-24-2019 12:09 PM
  22. Greymire's Avatar
    I found something interesting today. For the first time since the update I got some intermittent heart rate readings. A few times I looked it was trying to find it. It turns out it was the watch face. I changed the watch face and boom.... Instant heart rate. Switched back and it seemed OK. Checked an hour later and it was not finding it again. Deleted the watch face that was reading and switched to o e of my go to's and bang... Instant heart rate. Hours later no problem. So beware. Try a couple watch faces if you see issues after the update.
    02-24-2019 12:19 PM
  23. skatergirl's Avatar
    I use one of my pictures, which I used with the S 2.
    02-24-2019 01:55 PM
  24. sonnnet's Avatar
    I use one of my pictures, which I used with the S 2.
    I know you are probably very fond of your photo on the watch face, but I would seriously consider trying one of the following watch faces, even if only temporarily. They are all from the same designer and might not be to your taste but they are very high quality (and actually I love them!) I think they all have step counters on them. I would ignore the old advice of not choosing a watch face with a counter. Try one of these, they only cost approx $1 each. The steps will update in the background and every time you wake your watch, you will see if it has updated by the correct amount.
    They work great for me.

    http://apps.samsung.com/gear/brandPa...dId=0000000006
    02-24-2019 02:48 PM
  25. Greymire's Avatar
    I know you are probably very fond of your photo on the watch face, but I would seriously consider trying one of the following watch faces, even if only temporarily. They are all from the same designer and might not be to your taste but they are very high quality (and actually I love them!) I think they all have step counters on them. I would ignore the old advice of not choosing a watch face with a counter. Try one of these, they only cost approx $1 each. The steps will update in the background and every time you wake your watch, you will see if it has updated by the correct amount.
    They work great for me.

    http://apps.samsung.com/gear/brandPa...dId=0000000006
    The watch face that caused me issues had no counters at all. It was just time
    02-24-2019 04:37 PM
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