11-28-2017 09:41 PM
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  1. libra89's Avatar
    I'm drawn to the XZ1 Compact but I'll like to know which one you are drawn to, and why?

    For me, I have been seeking a phone to replace my iPhone SE but it's still small. This seems to hit the spot.
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    10-03-2017 12:13 PM
  2. SkypilotOfHope's Avatar
    I'm drawn to the Compact but here in Canada, so far, Sony hasn't indicated if they'll even offer the smaller version. I would buy the Twilight Pink for my wife in a heartbeat; she's a dog groomer and takes copious photos and the size and specs of the Compact would be perfect for her.

    That said, I actually like the Venus Pink colouring on the XZ1 itself so, who knows, maybe I'll get her this one. It's nice to have options.
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    10-03-2017 05:43 PM
  3. krazyatom's Avatar
    Now that pixel 2 (5 inch) came out. It's going to be tough decision for me lol. Sony compact line always been 720p resolution so battery will be very very good especially with snapdragon 835 chipset. DXOmark scored 98 for google pixel 2. I wonder new sony xz1 compact won't have finger print sensor again for US markets.
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    10-05-2017 11:26 AM
  4. libra89's Avatar
    Now that pixel 2 (5 inch) came out. It's going to be tough decision for me lol. Sony compact line always been 720p resolution so battery will be very very good especially with snapdragon 835 chipset. DXOmark scored 98 for google pixel 2. I wonder new sony xz1 compact won't have finger print sensor again for US markets.
    I can relate to this. I bought a XZ1 Compact which I should have soon before hearing about the Pixel 2. Since I have a Pixel and the Google trade-in value is nice, I also got a Pixel 2 too BUT I'm not going to get it until the middle of November so I have a window of time with the XZ1 Compact.

    Basically, if the XZ1 Compact cameras are solid (that's my only concern because everything else you mentioned will be great) enough for me, I'll probably cancel the Pixel 2 order. I don't plan to keep both...
    If the Sony cameras are a disappointment to me though, the Pixel 2 will be my pick possibly. I love that the Sony has a headphone jack...
    10-05-2017 03:43 PM
  5. krazyatom's Avatar
    I can relate to this. I bought a XZ1 Compact which I should have soon before hearing about the Pixel 2. Since I have a Pixel and the Google trade-in value is nice, I also got a Pixel 2 too BUT I'm not going to get it until the middle of November so I have a window of time with the XZ1 Compact.

    Basically, if the XZ1 Compact cameras are solid (that's my only concern because everything else you mentioned will be great) enough for me, I'll probably cancel the Pixel 2 order. I don't plan to keep both...
    If the Sony cameras are a disappointment to me though, the Pixel 2 will be my pick possibly. I love that the Sony has a headphone jack...
    I already pre-order pixel 2 but it won’t arrive until October 19. I am still not 100% sure if I want pixel lol. No headphone jack is also deal breaker for me. Let me know how your compact zx1 goes.
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    10-05-2017 04:03 PM
  6. libra89's Avatar
    I already pre-order pixel 2 but it won’t arrive until October 19. I am still not 100% sure if I want pixel lol. No headphone jack is also deal breaker for me. Let me know how your compact zx1 goes.
    Whoa, yours is coming in like 2 weeks but I can get how you feel about the Pixel. That's so hard.

    My XZ1 Compact is scheduled to arrive on Monday so I will for sure.
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    10-05-2017 04:15 PM
  7. RumoredNow's Avatar
    I'd take the XZ1 over the Compact. 5.2" isn't too large a screen for me. I've used larger and the 5.0" X I'm running seems a tad smallish. I also like the 1080p vs 720p, the extra internal storage and the fact that the XZ1 is Type C 3.1 and the Compact is only 2.0 protocol.


    ...My XZ1 Compact is scheduled to arrive on Monday so I will for sure.
    Congrats on the purchase. About that camera, seems to be the same sensor and f/stop as the X, but with a slightly longer focal length and reduced MP count. I wouldn't put the Sony camera up there with Lumia, but mine is a decent shooter. Biggest thing will be if it is all-in with Camera2 API. The X only partially supports it (missing RAW support).

    Try this app to check: https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...s.camera2probe
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    10-07-2017 03:12 PM
  8. DominionRoofs's Avatar
    I just ordered the xz1 after deleting from my cart like eight times. Lol. The reason is because I too ordered the Google Pixel and wasn't sure if I should wait. I do however prefer the largest screen I can manage so if I like the xz1, I'll cancel the pixel. I'm pretty sure the pixel does not support hdr nor does it have a headphone jack. I know is the trend but definitely not convenient if you're looking to charge while listening to music or video.
    I've actually had three compact phones and love the size. The xz1 is extremely thin though. Never had the 5.2 so I'll try it. In addition to the 1080p and screen size, the compact also doesn't have hdr and the radios are slightly weaker. I love Sony phones. They are well optimized and smooth as silk. Having 8.0 already, makes the pixel a harder sell for me. The Camara and the oled screen are the only things it has over Sony right now imo. If Sony put darn OIS in their phones, it would be a no brainer
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    10-07-2017 04:07 PM
  9. libra89's Avatar
    I just ordered the xz1 after deleting from my cart like eight times. Lol. The reason is because I too ordered the Google Pixel and wasn't sure if I should wait. I do however prefer the largest screen I can manage so if I like the xz1, I'll cancel the pixel. I'm pretty sure the pixel does not support hdr nor does it have a headphone jack. I know is the trend but definitely not convenient if you're looking to charge while listening to music or video.
    I've actually had three compact phones and love the size. The xz1 is extremely thin though. Never had the 5.2 so I'll try it. In addition to the 1080p and screen size, the compact also doesn't have hdr and the radios are slightly weaker. I love Sony phones. They are well optimized and smooth as silk. Having 8.0 already, makes the pixel a harder sell for me. The Camara and the oled screen are the only things it has over Sony right now imo. If Sony put darn OIS in their phones, it would be a no brainer
    Sounds like a great plan. Congrats on your XZ1! I'll be looking forward to your impressions of it.

    I can relate to that, I did a similar thing with the Pixel too. A headphone jack is a noticable thing to be gone. It's a bit challenging not to have one for me.
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    10-07-2017 06:12 PM
  10. libra89's Avatar
    I'd take the XZ1 over the Compact. 5.2" isn't too large a screen for me. I've used larger and the 5.0" X I'm running seems a tad smallish. I also like the 1080p vs 720p, the extra internal storage and the fact that the XZ1 is Type C 3.1 and the Compact is only 2.0 protocol.




    Congrats on the purchase. About that camera, seems to be the same sensor and f/stop as the X, but with a slightly longer focal length and reduced MP count. I wouldn't put the Sony camera up there with Lumia, but mine is a decent shooter. Biggest thing will be if it is all-in with Camera2 API. The X only partially supports it (missing RAW support).

    Try this app to check: https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...s.camera2probe
    Sounds like 5.2" could work out for you.

    Thank you! I had the X Compact and as a point and shoot kind of gal, it wasn't good enough for me. Apparently Sony has updated their software processing for their camera. From what I see from reviews, it does seem improved but the question for me would be if it is improved enough to be a solid camera or will it still miss the bar?

    I also have a Pixel which has an excellent camera. I don't need it to totally meet the Pixel but I do need it to hold its own, beat the iPhone SE and my Galaxy A3. Enough to make one of my phones no longer needed, lol.

    Thanks for the app link, I will give the app a try for you.
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    10-07-2017 10:22 PM
  11. DominionRoofs's Avatar
    I'm glad I'm not the only one with Phone-itus

    😂
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    10-08-2017 11:41 AM
  12. krazyatom's Avatar
    My ultimate goal is to purchase one phone per year and XZ1 compact released!
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    10-08-2017 12:05 PM
  13. libra89's Avatar

    Congrats on the purchase. About that camera, seems to be the same sensor and f/stop as the X, but with a slightly longer focal length and reduced MP count. I wouldn't put the Sony camera up there with Lumia, but mine is a decent shooter. Biggest thing will be if it is all-in with Camera2 API. The X only partially supports it (missing RAW support).

    Try this app to check: https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...s.camera2probe
    I tried this app for you and this is what I got:

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    10-09-2017 08:53 PM
  14. DJCBS's Avatar
    Biggest thing will be if it is all-in with Camera2 API. The X only partially supports it (missing RAW support).
    I can confirm that the XZ1 Compact STILL does NOT support RAW. It supports all other camera2api feautres EXCEPT for RAW.
    It's like Sony doesn't want you to actually see how ****ty their camera software is.

    Because the XZ1 Compact is still a pretty terrible camera performer in ANY lighting condition that isn't great. And without RAW support, you can't use the Google Camera HDR+ port from XDA with it which would put a vastly better camera on Xperias.
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    11-01-2017 12:00 PM
  15. libra89's Avatar
    I can confirm that the XZ1 Compact STILL does NOT support RAW. It supports all other camera2api feautres EXCEPT for RAW.
    It's like Sony doesn't want you to actually see how ****ty their camera software is.

    Because the XZ1 Compact is still a pretty terrible camera performer in ANY lighting condition that isn't great. And without RAW support, you can't use the Google Camera HDR+ port from XDA with it which would put a vastly better camera on Xperias.
    I was really disappointed to find out that the ZX1 Compact didn't support the Google camera port.
    11-01-2017 12:34 PM
  16. krazyatom's Avatar
    I was really disappointed to find out that the ZX1 Compact didn't support the Google camera port.
    Is there anyway to improve xz1 compact camera quality?
    11-01-2017 01:29 PM
  17. libra89's Avatar
    Is there anyway to improve xz1 compact camera quality?
    You can "change" the default camera app to another app like Open Camera. Open Camera is generally better with colors from what I noticed. Change is in quotes because it's not a total change. It's a change for what launches when you tap the power button twice to open the camera. From apps that use the camera (like Duo, Skype, etc), you can't get around the default camera processing.

    Aside from that, not much one can do aside from tweaking manually and hoping for the best.
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    11-01-2017 02:22 PM
  18. krazyatom's Avatar
    You can "change" the default camera app to another app like Open Camera. Open Camera is generally better with colors from what I noticed. Change is in quotes because it's not a total change. It's a change for what launches when you tap the power button twice to open the camera. From apps that use the camera (like Duo, Skype, etc), you can't get around the default camera processing.

    Aside from that, not much one can do aside from tweaking manually and hoping for the best.
    I wish my zx1 compact had great camera like pixel 2. I see myself using pixel 2 more often
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    11-01-2017 02:41 PM
  19. libra89's Avatar
    I wish my zx1 compact had great camera like pixel 2. I see myself using pixel 2 more often
    Yeah same, I can relate so much. I would probably do the same thing if I had the Pixel 2 too.
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    11-01-2017 03:13 PM
  20. RumoredNow's Avatar
    I can confirm that the XZ1 Compact STILL does NOT support RAW. It supports all other camera2api feautres EXCEPT for RAW.
    It's like Sony doesn't want you to actually see how ****ty their camera software is.

    Because the XZ1 Compact is still a pretty terrible camera performer in ANY lighting condition that isn't great. And without RAW support, you can't use the Google Camera HDR+ port from XDA with it which would put a vastly better camera on Xperias.
    That's why I have a Lumia 950 for a dedicated camera. The Xperia X is going to be a test bed for Sailfish X. The camera is just alright, but you can make it jump through a couple of hoops.
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    11-01-2017 06:15 PM
  21. Eggmundo's Avatar
    Does anyone have an XZ1? Not the Compact.

    If so how is it?
    11-02-2017 11:10 AM
  22. DJCBS's Avatar
    Is there anyway to improve xz1 compact camera quality?
    Not really. You can use an alternate app like "Manual Camera" but none of the third party camera apps I've tried so far has proven to be that mindblowing. Besides, you then have the camera button which will always open the Sony camera.

    Mind you, I didn't buy the XZ1 Compact to actually use a a phone and that's - apart from the lack of OIS, wireless charging and an AMOLED screen - because I knew the camera would be complete rubbish. I've had a Z3 Compact before and I've given up on Sony actually listening to their consumers. We have been complaining about the sub-par camera since the Z3 and they still prefer to waste time on gimmicks instead of actually doing something about the quality.


    That's why I have a Lumia 950 for a dedicated camera. T
    Well, I have kept the S7 as my daily driver anyway.
    And I normally have the Nokia 1020 at hand as well for photos. But still, if Sony didn't bloody slack, I wouldn't need to carry 3 phones around.
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    11-02-2017 01:29 PM
  23. krazyatom's Avatar
    Not really. You can use an alternate app like "Manual Camera" but none of the third party camera apps I've tried so far has proven to be that mindblowing. Besides, you then have the camera button which will always open the Sony camera.

    Mind you, I didn't buy the XZ1 Compact to actually use a a phone and that's - apart from the lack of OIS, wireless charging and an AMOLED screen - because I knew the camera would be complete rubbish. I've had a Z3 Compact before and I've given up on Sony actually listening to their consumers. We have been complaining about the sub-par camera since the Z3 and they still prefer to waste time on gimmicks instead of actually doing something about the quality.




    Well, I have kept the S7 as my daily driver anyway.
    And I normally have the Nokia 1020 at hand as well for photos. But still, if Sony didn't bloody slack, I wouldn't need to carry 3 phones around.
    Yes I didn't buy zx1c for camera. I bought em for small form factor and good battery life. It's perfect for outdoor activity!
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    11-02-2017 02:04 PM
  24. Catzilla242's Avatar
    I got the XZ1 end of October. Having always Sony and later Xperias, it was no question for me to think about another brand. Before the XZ1 compact, I had the Z3 compact. I stick with this size, the compact, I want to use it with one hand only, often, the bigger one isn't handy enough for me. Also it's more comfy to put it in the back of the jeans, lol, without caring that much for it falling off. I'm a woman and probably that's why I prefer the compact one, haha. Smaller hands than men we have, right?
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    11-08-2017 07:10 PM
  25. libra89's Avatar
    I got the XZ1 end of October. Having always Sony and later Xperias, it was no question for me to think about another brand. Before the XZ1 compact, I had the Z3 compact. I stick with this size, the compact, I want to use it with one hand only, often, the bigger one isn't handy enough for me. Also it's more comfy to put it in the back of the jeans, lol, without caring that much for it falling off. I'm a woman and probably that's why I prefer the compact one, haha. Smaller hands than men we have, right?
    As a fellow woman, pocketability and one hand usage usually make me go smaller. I have long fingers so I can't relate to the smaller hands.
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    11-08-2017 07:24 PM
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