1. DJPellegrino's Avatar
    Is it possible or probable that the Galaxy S phone line (Super Amoled), and more specifically the Epic 4G can suffer from screen burn-in? I ask, because when I have the Epic 4G in the dock, the screen does not go blank at all. Then when I do blank it before going to bed, I return in the morning to find the pop-up message indicating the battery is fully charged and to remove the device from the cradle. I don't know how long it is on like that, but am concerned about screen burn-in on this device. What are your thoughts?
    09-11-2010 01:02 PM
  2. KB3MMX's Avatar
    OLED is not susceptible to screen burn in AFAIK.
    09-11-2010 01:10 PM
  3. scottresnik's Avatar
    I had the desktop dock app and it keeps the current time on the screen in large type, and I noticed today reading an email that those numbers are in fact burnt into the screen... Looks like I'm going to exchange my phone at sprint and hope I don't get a refurb with the same problem.
    10-20-2010 08:45 AM
  4. ShaLea's Avatar
    I had the desktop dock app and it keeps the current time on the screen in large type, and I noticed today reading an email that those numbers are in fact burnt into the screen... Looks like I'm going to exchange my phone at sprint and hope I don't get a refurb with the same problem.
    Are you talking about the widgets? because i have a digital clock widget, but hopes this isn't happening to my phone as well.
    10-20-2010 09:05 AM
  5. signothefish's Avatar
    Yes, the Epic is susceptible to screen burn-in. See:
    Anybody wanna see the image burnt in my screen? - PPCGeeks

    It is advised to install a screen-saver if the screen is configured to stay on during an extended period of time.
    10-20-2010 01:20 PM
  6. caliskimmer's Avatar
    Yes, when I had the Epic, I didn't want to use the desktop clock because I feared screen burn-in. Looks like I was right about it.
    10-20-2010 08:22 PM
  7. BlackHawkA4's Avatar
    Well if you read the thread it doesn't appear to be "burn in" with what that guy said. Makes sense that it's the led burning out.

    I didn't take it would do that so soon. If he's right it's only noticeable because the background of the desktop dock app is black and not using any leds.
    10-21-2010 01:10 AM
  8. xtn's Avatar
    A standard lcd screen uses a backlight behind the pixel cells. The cells don't emit any light themselves. Hence they are not prone to burn in because the cells don't get weaker over time with use.

    In oled screens, much like plasma screens, each cell is emitting its own light. There is no backlight. Each cell gets slightly dimmer with extended use. So it makes sense that they are susceptible to burn in.
    10-21-2010 08:06 AM
  9. CorruptionDee's Avatar
    Unfortunately, this seems to be a common problem with all AMOLED technology. Apparently that beautiful picture comes at a cost. I love the Super AMOLED display, as the picture is highly reminiscent of my Pioneer Kuro Plasma, but trying to avoid burn-in on a smartphone is IMPOSSIBLE. I was under the impression that AMOLED technology impervious to burn-in and instead only suffered from image retention, but apparently it's permanent.

    I checked my phone and I have mild burn-in, only at the task bar at the very top of the screen. See early adopters of the Nexus One to hear more about AMOLED burn-in. With that said, the picture quality is still unmatched.
    10-21-2010 06:22 PM
  10. caliskimmer's Avatar
    I knew about AMOLED burn-in quite a while back because Nexus One users were reporting screen burn-in. After researching Super AMOLED, I knew it had the possibility of burn-in too. I read the thread, and it appears that it may not be burn-in, but either way, the guy looks like he's exchanging it.
    10-21-2010 08:56 PM
  11. caliskimmer's Avatar
    Unfortunately, this seems to be a common problem with all AMOLED technology. Apparently that beautiful picture comes at a cost. I love the Super AMOLED display, as the picture is highly reminiscent of my Pioneer Kuro Plasma, but trying to avoid burn-in on a smartphone is IMPOSSIBLE. I was under the impression that AMOLED technology impervious to burn-in and instead only suffered from image retention, but apparently it's permanent.

    I checked my phone and I have mild burn-in, only at the task bar at the very top of the screen. See early adopters of the Nexus One to hear more about AMOLED burn-in. With that said, the picture quality is still unmatched.
    The colors are absolutely amazing, but of course, the downside is a. PenTile Matrix and b) possibility of screen burn-in.
    10-21-2010 08:58 PM
  12. bkrodgers's Avatar
    OLED is definitely susceptible to burn in. I saw some pretty bad burn in on a Fascinate at the Verizon store yesterday. The icons on the bottom were very clearly visible when that area had a white background (like a web page). The Epic would be susceptible to the same thing.

    Granted, store models may spend more time turned on than an average phone would. Still, that display unit has to be 2 months old or less, since it only came out on VZW at the start of Sept.
    10-31-2010 10:44 PM
  13. acegolfer's Avatar
    Isn't burn-in the reason for having black top bar (which I prefer) instead of stock Android white/grey color?

    If Nexus 2 (or S) comes with stock Android with white status bar on top, screen burn-in (in addition to battery drain) will be a big issue.
    11-01-2010 10:21 AM
  14. adjmcloon#IM's Avatar
    The Samsung dock app has burned in the battery full warning into my screen. I will be heading for a replacement.


    fyi, it is not only possible, it happened to me!
    12-20-2010 11:22 PM
  15. DroidXcon's Avatar
    this thread may add to your discussion

    http://forum.androidcentral.com/veri...reen-burn.html

    Its not as much burning in as it is the molecules inside have died more than the others and therefor have colorshifted and that is what you are seeing color shift due to shortened life
    12-20-2010 11:25 PM
  16. Mikey47's Avatar
    Yes, the Epic is susceptible to screen burn-in. See:
    Anybody wanna see the image burnt in my screen? - PPCGeeks

    It is advised to install a screen-saver if the screen is configured to stay on during an extended period of time.
    Sorry, but I don't buy that this is burn in. If it were the clock would not show up clearly like it does in the screenshots saying "10:00". The time on the clock would be blurred, the remainder of the screen that stays on (the icons) constantly would be burned, but certainly not a constant "10:00".

    Maybe the dock app, but certainly not burn in.
    12-21-2010 12:19 AM
  17. Chris Kerrigan's Avatar
    Sorry, but I don't buy that this is burn in. If it were the clock would not show up clearly like it does in the screenshots saying "10:00". The time on the clock would be blurred, the remainder of the screen that stays on (the icons) constantly would be burned, but certainly not a constant "10:00".

    Maybe the dock app, but certainly not burn in.
    Whilst screen burn-in absolutely is possible, I agree with this. There would be no way the time would be readable like that at "10:00" without it being stuck on that time for a very, very long period of time. Sorry to say, but I think this is a very good Photoshop attempt.
    12-21-2010 12:27 AM
  18. DroidXcon's Avatar
    Yup im with you guys on this, burn in is more than possible, but in this case i dont believe it, you would see some more numbers .. good call guys...i regret not taking pictures of the screens that i had that were burnt in
    12-21-2010 12:32 AM
  19. gitit20's Avatar
    Whilst screen burn-in absolutely is possible, I agree with this. There would be no way the time would be readable like that at "10:00" without it being stuck on that time for a very, very long period of time. Sorry to say, but I think this is a very good Photoshop attempt.
    Your wrong think about it what part of the screen is used most with the clock the reason it looks to be 10 is because the numbers the way the clock runs out of all the numbers used if you look closely at the pic you can see were you can almost make out 1200 or 200 or 300 and so on its burn in for sure i have the same issue sad to say... you can see it on any color of background sept black and dark gray but i do have burn in i even called samsung about it and they stated that they are working on an update for the doc app that would add a screen saver
    12-21-2010 08:32 PM
  20. Chris Kerrigan's Avatar
    Again, I have no doubt that screen burn-in happens. But I've been around enough IT to see a lot of cases of screen burn-in, and none of them, and I mean none of them are ever as defined as that. That's why I'm not buying that particular picture. Burn in occurs after many, many hundreds of hours of the same pixels being used. 1's and 0's are undoubtedly the most used numbers for time, but not in that exact order of "10:00".
    12-21-2010 08:41 PM
  21. JMusic's Avatar
    Again, I have no doubt that screen burn-in happens. But I've been around enough IT to see a lot of cases of screen burn-in, and none of them, and I mean none of them are ever as defined as that. That's why I'm not buying that particular picture. Burn in occurs after many, many hundreds of hours of the same pixels being used. 1's and 0's are undoubtedly the most used numbers for time, but not in that exact order of "10:00".
    Think about the lines of the numbers (the 1 at the beginning is a gimme). 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+0 placed on top of each other are going to produce a "0"-ish look. I'm not guaranteeing the effect, but it's easy to imagine it being possible.

    I got a replacement refurb Moment (AMOLED screen too) and it had the status bar across the top burnt in badly. That led to me getting an Intercept replacement, which in turn directly led to me upgrading to the Epic (oh my gawd the Intercept sucks...).
    12-21-2010 09:18 PM
  22. DroidXcon's Avatar
    Think about the lines of the numbers (the 1 at the beginning is a gimme). 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+0 placed on top of each other are going to produce a "0"-ish look. I'm not guaranteeing the effect, but it's easy to imagine it being possible.

    I got a replacement refurb Moment (AMOLED screen too) and it had the status bar across the top burnt in badly. That led to me getting an Intercept replacement, which in turn directly led to me upgrading to the Epic (oh my gawd the Intercept sucks...).
    Yeah i spent alot of time thinking about this, but still ....anyway it doesnt matter, the photo real or fake, no one is arguing if burn in is real cause it is. although the term "burn in" is a misnomer.
    12-21-2010 09:22 PM
  23. DJPellegrino's Avatar
    The Samsung dock app has burned in the battery full warning into my screen. I will be heading for a replacement.


    fyi, it is not only possible, it happened to me!
    Any photos to see?
    12-21-2010 09:28 PM
  24. mikehoff99's Avatar
    This is a picture of the burn in. when i have it on the dock, that is the only way i can see if i get new messages. other than checking the phone constantly. lower right hand corner toy can see the blurred clock. it can only be seen during a bright screen.
    06-30-2011 10:10 AM
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