09-10-2011 12:48 AM
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  1. Cory Streater's Avatar
    There are a lot off threads debating the Pentile vs. Samsung Super AMOLED Plus screens. Many of them get closed because people can't control themselves and start flaming each other because an opinion differs from theirs. So, this threads is open for business. Ground rules:

    Debates and sharing technical wisdom on this topic is encouraged.
    No Trolling
    No Flaming
    No Personal Attacks
    No Name Calling
    09-09-2011 07:31 AM
  2. madkaw's Avatar
    Well just to chime in, I am a ISF hdtv calibrator and there are 5 things that make up great picture quality. Guess what the last one is.... you guessed it resolution. Resolution is the least important aspect of a picture. So to bump the samoled+ to qhd would be a welcome addition but I have compared my current EVO to the photon. Yes the photon has smaller pixels but the evo screen is still superior to the pentile of the photon. It does not bother everyone, if it doesnt awesome, buy what makes you happy. To someone like myself that has a business of making the best picture out of displays the pentile sucks big time. I wanted to buy the photon for my wife because she drives through a couple sections of road where the evo drops out but the moto does not. She decided she did not want it because she thinks the screen on the evo is better, not because of resolution but because of the pentile display.
    09-09-2011 08:53 AM
  3. graffix31's Avatar
    down with pentile up with super amoled+ woohoo one week today!
    09-09-2011 09:13 AM
  4. darkmatter's Avatar
    Have they fixed the colors on samsung screens yet?

    Sent from my DROID3 using Tapatalk
    09-09-2011 09:20 AM
  5. madkaw's Avatar
    Have they fixed the colors on samsung screens yet?

    Sent from my DROID3 using Tapatalk
    I think the original gs2 has a saturation control under display settings, you can tweak the color up and down like on your television
    09-09-2011 11:29 AM
  6. chazglenn3's Avatar
    Do you guys really not know that the Samsung Super AMOLED screens also use pentile technology???
    09-09-2011 12:30 PM
  7. JayWill's Avatar
    Do you guys really not know that the Samsung Super AMOLED screens also use pentile technology???
    Yes we do, but Super AMOLED PLUS screens, like what's on the E4GT, does not.
    09-09-2011 12:32 PM
  8. Cobravision's Avatar
    The SAMOLED used in the original Galaxy S line uses pentile. The SAMOLED Plus in the newer phones uses RGB stripe array and not the pentile arrangement.
    09-09-2011 12:58 PM
  9. Cory Streater's Avatar
    Posts 2-8 above copied over from the closed thread.
    09-09-2011 06:25 PM
  10. LegendarySoul's Avatar
    Um can you explain very explain what's the difference between Pentile and Super AMOLED Plus? Well, I am not much into mobile thingy. I am just trying to learn about new Android. Sorry!
    09-09-2011 06:46 PM
  11. Latteart's Avatar


    This might help explain things.

    http://expiance.com/blog/2011/05/13/...bile-displays/ Read that article and it should help as well. That is where I got the picture from.

    This shows the SAMOLED+, AMOLED Pentile, and (Moto's choice) LCD Pentile
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    09-09-2011 06:56 PM
  12. JayWill's Avatar
    Um can you explain very explain what's the difference between Pentile and Super AMOLED Plus? Well, I am not much into mobile thingy. I am just trying to learn about new Android. Sorry!
    PenTile is a sub-pixel matrix that was designed to consume less battery and operate brighter than your typical RGB LCD screen. Super AMOLED Plus is a screen technology, like LCD is a screen technology. Both technologies can and HAVE used the PenTile sub-matrix. Current LCD screens from Motorola are using the PenTile matrix, and last year's Samsung Galaxy phones used it in their SAMOLED (non Plus) screens. Both have their pros and cons.

    The SAMOLED Plus screen used in the Galaxy SII ditched the PenTile matrix and uses the classic RGB stripe sub-matrix. Doing this allows for 12 sub-pixels in every pixel on a WVGA screen, and helped eliminate some of the perceived negatives of the PenTile matrix.

    Honestly, it's probably easier to Google this stuff as it's all out there. But the bottom line is, all a discussion will achieve is people expressing their opinion on what they personally like or dislike. There is no "better", there is only "personal preference".

    One day, we will have full HD displays with ultra sharp pixel resolution that consumes almost zero battery on full brightness that displays ultra rich real life colors. Until that time (hell the way technology is moving it could be next week), we're going to have to deal with some give and take.
    09-09-2011 07:12 PM
  13. Latteart's Avatar
    What makes SAMOLED less obvious was the fact that it used an RGBG as opposed to RGBW where the W over takes the other colors making the screen look washed out but brighter. Its like looking into a light and not being able to see other objects directly around the light.
    09-09-2011 07:21 PM
  14. JayWill's Avatar
    By the way, I always liked this article for a simple comparison, as well as clue me in to some things I didn't know about Samsung's SAMOLED screen production process and changes in that process that are coming that are supposed to increase PPI.

    Pentile vs Real-Stripe AMOLED Displays: What's Different? - Tested

    A 300ppi SAMOLED Plus screen will be sheer awesome in my book.
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    09-09-2011 09:32 PM
  15. LegendarySoul's Avatar
    Thanks for explaining! I take Super AMOLED Plus as best choice for screen or whatever it is? Yes?
    09-09-2011 09:52 PM
  16. JayWill's Avatar
    Thanks for explaining! I take Super AMOLED Plus as best choice for screen or whatever it is? Yes?
    "Best" is a tough word to use right now when it comes to displays. Everyone has their own opinion. But in the Android world, I'd say the majority do prefer the SAMOLED screens to other choices. But remember, Samsung is only producing SAMOLED Plus displays right now at 480x800 resolution. Some will prefer a higher resolution qHD screen for that fact alone. To me, I still think the iPhone's retina display is the top dog, with Samsung's displays coming in second. Again, that's just me.
    09-09-2011 10:02 PM
  17. LegendarySoul's Avatar
    "Best" is a tough word to use right now when it comes to displays. Everyone has their own opinion. But in the Android world, I'd say the majority do prefer the SAMOLED screens to other choices. But remember, Samsung is only producing SAMOLED Plus displays right now at 480x800 resolution. Some will prefer a higher resolution qHD screen for that fact alone. To me, I still think the iPhone's retina display is the top dog, with Samsung's displays coming in second. Again, that's just me.
    Ok, I think I'm getting headache. I'd say I am follower, go along with what people think. Help me? I am just simple guy. I will need a mobile to keep me "to-go". I use text, email, internet, gps, and facebook. Assuming Sprint Galaxy S II Epic is right choice for me then?

    Oh I don't do voice such as calling. I am Deaf.
    09-09-2011 10:14 PM
  18. Riboflavin's Avatar
    Ok, I think I'm getting headache. I'd say I am follower, go along with what people think. Help me? I am just simple guy. I will need a mobile to keep me "to-go". I use text, email, internet, gps, and facebook. Assuming Sprint Galaxy S II Epic is right choice for me then?

    Oh I don't do voice such as calling. I am Deaf.
    if you are coming from a Blackberry and this is your first Android phone, I would be more concerned about which Skin you prefer (TouchWiz vs Sense vs quasi-Blur) before you worry about the screen.

    Having said that...every review of the Euro Galaxy SII has said that it is the best Android phone out there.
    09-09-2011 10:34 PM
  19. JayWill's Avatar
    Ok, I think I'm getting headache. I'd say I am follower, go along with what people think. Help me? I am just simple guy. I will need a mobile to keep me "to-go". I use text, email, internet, gps, and facebook. Assuming Sprint Galaxy S II Epic is right choice for me then?

    Oh I don't do voice such as calling. I am Deaf.
    Haha sorry I'm not intentionally trying to be elusive. There's just so many variables that come into play when selecting a smartphone that its almost impossible to say something is better than another. Much of it boils down to personal taste and valued features.

    But, with the Epic 4G Touch, your going to get a fast device with a large, great looking screen that will do everything you described above and more, and do it really really well for at least the next year and probably well beyond. I think it will be hard to be disappointed with this device if that's what you're looking for. Cheers!
    09-09-2011 10:35 PM
  20. LegendarySoul's Avatar
    if you are coming from a Blackberry and this is your first Android phone, I would be more concerned about which Skin you prefer (TouchWiz vs Sense vs quasi-Blur) before you worry about the screen.

    Having said that...every review of the Euro Galaxy SII has said that it is the best Android phone out there.
    Yeah you can say I am coming from Blackberry and new to android phone. So what is skin? Tip? Advice?
    09-09-2011 10:39 PM
  21. LegendarySoul's Avatar
    Haha sorry I'm not intentionally trying to be elusive. There's just so many variables that come into play when selecting a smartphone that its almost impossible to say something is better than another. Much of it boils down to personal taste and valued features.

    But, with the Epic 4G Touch, your going to get a fast device with a large, great looking screen that will do everything you described above and more, and do it really really well for at least the next year and probably well beyond. I think it will be hard to be disappointed with this device if that's what you're looking for. Cheers!
    I hope it's true, Jay.
    09-09-2011 10:45 PM
  22. Riboflavin's Avatar
    Yeah you can say I am coming from Blackberry and new to android phone. So what is skin? Tip? Advice?
    The Epic 4G Touch will be my first Android phone too. A Skin is what the manufacture puts on top of Google's Android to customize it to their tastes. Samsung has TouchWiz. HTC has Sense. Motorola has Motoblur.

    I've heard bad things about MotoBlur, but i think the Photon scales it way back. Lots of ppl say TouchWiz and Sense have improved alot, but the only HTC phone on Sprint that i would even remotely consider is the Evo 3D.

    Go read reviews on the Evo 3D and the Photon and see what they have to say about the software.

    Assuming you are on Sprint...Evo3D, Photon and Epic 4G Touch are all gonna be pretty damn good phones....so like that other guy said, it is more about personal preference. You can't really go wrong here.
    09-09-2011 11:09 PM
  23. jfenton's Avatar
    "Best" is a tough word to use right now when it comes to displays. Everyone has their own opinion. But in the Android world, I'd say the majority do prefer the SAMOLED screens to other choices. But remember, Samsung is only producing SAMOLED Plus displays right now at 480x800 resolution. Some will prefer a higher resolution qHD screen for that fact alone. To me, I still think the iPhone's retina display is the top dog, with Samsung's displays coming in second. Again, that's just me.
    I gotta tell you.....

    I borrowed my daughters iphone 4 for a weekend and really was underwhelmed with one exception...it runs soooooooooo perfectly smooth.

    But...the real surprise was how non impressive the screen was. Kinda subdued but sharp and way too small for my eyes.
    09-09-2011 11:32 PM
  24. jfenton's Avatar
    Yeah you can say I am coming from Blackberry and new to android phone. So what is skin? Tip? Advice?
    Hi LS...

    I have a Tour which I've used a lot for years and it is now my backup just in case. You will be amazed at the productivity and the speed with which you can accomplish things on Android vs the BB experience.
    09-09-2011 11:35 PM
  25. jfenton's Avatar
    The Epic 4G Touch will be my first Android phone too. A Skin is what the manufacture puts on top of Google's Android to customize it to their tastes. Samsung has TouchWiz. HTC has Sense. Motorola has Motoblur.

    I've heard bad things about MotoBlur, but i think the Photon scales it way back. Lots of ppl say TouchWiz and Sense have improved alot, but the only HTC phone on Sprint that i would even remotely consider is the Evo 3D.

    Go read reviews on the Evo 3D and the Photon and see what they have to say about the software.

    Assuming you are on Sprint...Evo3D, Photon and Epic 4G Touch are all gonna be pretty damn good phones....so like that other guy said, it is more about personal preference. You can't really go wrong here.
    Having been through several 3D's and Photons I would have to say STAY AWAY.

    The 3D had a lousy strength radio with bad signal. It did receive an update which did not bring it up to par with my current EVO 4g. It's earpiece and rear speaker are way to quiet. My hearing sucks, my wife's is superb....with the 3D on her nightstand the alarm on it's loudest setting would not wake her up. Hated the screen as it was sharp but with qHD everything was way to small for me.

    Photon....couldn't stand the pentile screen, earpiece and rear speaker were superb, signal strength was superb. Unfortunately, all three I went through dropped calls OR took 20 seconds to begin dialing OR everything became muted ion it's own OR the phone would randomly just shut down completely. They have released an MR5 update and my buddy Alan is still having some of these issues.

    My advice...take a chance and go with the Samsung.
    09-09-2011 11:40 PM
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