09-27-2011 12:55 PM
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  1. akarol's Avatar
    If that is indeed true, then one should never update their PRL right?!
    09-19-2011 12:50 AM
  2. nkd's Avatar
    Had the photon and now the sgs2, I returned the photon. I get the same dbm anytime. I know my room is a bunker and I get the same signal with the sgs2 that i did with photon.

    Sorry you have to go with my word. I dont have the photon anymore. I exchanged it to get the samsung.
    09-19-2011 12:54 AM
  3. sfhub's Avatar
    If that is indeed true, then one should never update their PRL right?!
    It depends what is in the PRL you are updating to. The current latest one 22081/60681 I would not upgrade to.
    09-19-2011 02:14 AM
  4. ZDriver's Avatar
    Please post side-by-side dBm levels. You can see the dBm in menu->settings->about phone->status

    Regarding roaming, once you get the latest PRL from Sprint, it'll disable all Verizon 3G roaming, only 1x.
    I have latest PRL and yesterday i was indeed roaming with 3g??
    09-19-2011 08:00 AM
  5. jfenton's Avatar
    I am out on the beach in Plymouth MA and we have both an EVO 4G and an Epic Touch side by side (actually about 2' apart).

    Epic Touch is showing -65 dBm and the EVO 4G is showing -85 dBm
    09-19-2011 09:01 AM
  6. energy177's Avatar
    Just went to the sprint store and did a side by side signal comparison of my photon vs. the epic 4g touch. Here are the results:

    epic 4g touch: -76 dbm
    photon: -81 dbm

    Honestly, they are probably very very similar. I'm not saying this is a definative test by any means, but it makes me feel better about taking the photon back for the GSII.

    On a couple other notes, the GSII had noticably lower resolution, but better color saturation than the photon.
    09-19-2011 12:15 PM
  7. eyecon82's Avatar
    There are repeaters installed in the sprint stores that is not the best place to be testing out signals
    Had the photon and now the sgs2, I returned the photon. I get the same dbm anytime. I know my room is a bunker and I get the same signal with the sgs2 that i did with photon.

    Sorry you have to go with my word. I dont have the photon anymore. I exchanged it to get the samsung.
    09-19-2011 12:22 PM
  8. OohErMissus's Avatar
    There are repeaters installed in the sprint stores that is not the best place to be testing out signals
    Given that nkd was testing phones side by side in this case, I think the repeaters are a bit of a moot point, here, especially because we're testing two phones drawing from the same signal source.

    Now, had we drawn conclusions that, say, a Sprint phone performed better than the Verizon phone in the Sprint store, that's a different story....
    09-19-2011 12:26 PM
  9. eyecon82's Avatar
    I guess what I was trying to say that it is hard to compare signal strength in full coverage areas. The real test comes to play in the fringe areas
    Given that nkd was testing phones side by side in this case, I think the repeaters are a bit of a moot point, here, especially because we're testing two phones drawing from the same signal source.

    Now, had we drawn conclusions that, say, a Sprint phone performed better than the Verizon phone in the Sprint store, that's a different story....
    09-19-2011 12:30 PM
  10. vincey2kr1's Avatar
    Evo -98 to -101 dBM Epic touch -103 dBm to -106 dBm and Disconnecting REally love this phone but its a useless paperweight at my workplace with this signal. Im getting 120ms 600kb download 68kb Upload on evo and 700ms 120kb downlooad and 23kb Upload, on this weak signal.. It Does change though once im in a good tower range, the Epic comes out ahead.
    09-19-2011 03:30 PM
  11. energy177's Avatar
    Evo -98 to -101 dBM Epic touch -103 dBm to -106 dBm and Disconnecting REally love this phone but its a useless paperweight at my workplace with this signal. Im getting 120ms 600kb download 68kb Upload on evo and 700ms 120kb downlooad and 23kb Upload, on this weak signal.. It Does change though once im in a good tower range, the Epic comes out ahead.
    thanks for the info. any more comparisons from anybody? still trying to figure this one out and get more data before I switch from the photon to the sII
    09-19-2011 03:44 PM
  12. nkd's Avatar
    There are repeaters installed in the sprint stores that is not the best place to be testing out signals
    did I ever say I did it at sprint store. It was done at home in the same location when I had the photon and then th sgs2. I just moved and in the new location th signal is not all that good but it is decent. My dad drops calls downstairs in one particular spot sitting on his evo 3d my epic is yet to do that.
    09-19-2011 04:33 PM
  13. EeZeEpEe's Avatar
    I don't trust signal bars. I feel like different companies and different ROMS have their own formulas as to what makes 1, 2, 3 etc. bars. That being said, the signal strength shows about the same -86 dBm that my old EVO 4G had in my room. My girlfriend has that phone now so maybe I'll do some random comparisons when I can.
    09-19-2011 06:05 PM
  14. eyecon82's Avatar
    09-19-2011 07:57 PM
  15. mastrcruse's Avatar
    I put the phone to the first test today I gabe my long drive through the mountains were I lost signal with my blackberry for about 75% of the 500 mile round trip drive. With the galaxy I lost signal for only about 20 miles
    I'm extremely happy with the reception of this phone now if I could get it to connect to my wifi.
    09-19-2011 09:01 PM
  16. dguidry12's Avatar
    Reception is one of my biggest concerns. My moPho slaughters any sprint phone I have owned in this department but I also am considering buying the SGSII if the reception is "as good" or "better" than the moPho. It just seems the moPho was a beta unit for the bionic and is buggier than a bug farm and I don't appreciate participating in a game I never wanted to play.
    I have taken my MoPho back for the SGS2 and trust me the signal performance doesn't come close. The 3g connection is horrid.. Its taking in excess of 30 seconds to connect to a tower.
    09-20-2011 12:15 AM
  17. bobby35ny's Avatar
    My EVO 4G was much better. My wife still has her white one and side by side in the same house the EVO radio for both wifi and phone is much better than the sammy. At least I have 14 days to decide..
    -Bobby
    09-21-2011 08:06 PM
  18. Bmwillz's Avatar
    Its pretty bad. Considering being it back if not fixed sooner than later. Used to receive strong signals now 4g
    Goes out and 3g is subpar. Plus wifi refuses to connect
    Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk
    09-21-2011 09:04 PM
  19. Slingbox's Avatar
    My 3G is better then EVO 4G & 3D
    Wifi is equal to 3D better the EVO 4G
    4G never had it.
    09-21-2011 09:20 PM
  20. dammitcubs's Avatar
    I went to the sprint store to look at the E4GT and did some data tests. The signal bars looked the same but during my 4g test:

    My nexus S 4g ran at 5-6Mbps while the E4GT ran at 2.5 to 2.8Mbps. The numbers were always half, i even used speakeasy speed test.

    Lol and before I was complaining about NS4G radios. NEVER AGAIN!!!
    09-21-2011 11:22 PM
  21. chuckz28's Avatar
    I went to the sprint store to look at the E4GT and did some data tests. The signal bars looked the same but during my 4g test:

    My nexus S 4g ran at 5-6Mbps while the E4GT ran at 2.5 to 2.8Mbps. The numbers were always half, i even used speakeasy speed test.

    Lol and before I was complaining about NS4G radios. NEVER AGAIN!!!
    Well remember that 2.3.5 brought wimax signal improvements while the epic touch is still only on 2.3.4 and if I'm not mistaken uses the same wimax chip. I have gotten as high as 12.44 down on wimax though.
    09-22-2011 11:41 PM
  22. JasonF's Avatar
    Side by side in Kansas City:

    • Samsung Intercept: -91 dbm
    • Samsung Epic Touch: -96 dbm
    09-23-2011 08:18 AM
  23. dwaynewilliams#WN's Avatar
    I keep hearing that the radios in Samsung devices are bad, but I don't hear a lot of complaining from those using Samsung phones on other carriers.
    09-24-2011 11:25 AM
  24. eyecon82's Avatar
    I keep hearing that the radios in Samsung devices are bad, but I don't hear a lot of complaining from those using Samsung phones on other carriers.
    That is because the radios are only bad in cdma units
    09-24-2011 11:35 AM
  25. BeachDroid's Avatar
    I thought I'd add (this may be a lengthy first post on this forum) with my experience.

    Right now, my Epic 4G Touch shows 3 bars of service (I've yet to see higher), and is coming in at -96 dbm. I've only had this phone for a few days, but the service (bars) is always between 1-3. Most of the time - regardless of where I am (I'm in Los Angeles) - my service is so poor that all of my data processes are off line. I can't receive/send text messages/emails, I can't browse the web, etc.

    I finally called Sprint today who had me update my profile (no change in signal), and then tell me that if this issue persists to take it back to the store and get it swapped out. When I went back to the store this afternoon, the manager informed me that I should wait, as a "patch" will probably be out soon that will correct this. He then proceeded to tell me that I have 5 days left to swap the phone out, otherwise it's mine for good.

    Right now, this phone is basically useless to me. Since the data never works because my 3G coverage is so poor (the Sprint rep told me that data won't work if you have 2 bars or less, I don't know if that's true but I do know I'm unable to use data most of the time on my phone) my phone is worthless to my needs. I can't use it as a nav system when I drive, since my reception stops me from using data. I can't do any web searches unless I'm on a wifi network, so when I'm with friends, out, anywhere other than at home or at a hotspot I can only make phone calls with the phone.

    I came online tonight to see if this was an issue shared by others. My area supposedly has top notch 3G coverage, the phone rep told me I should be fine and should be receiving much higher signal strength in my location. Shall I go in tomorrow and swap it out for a new Epic 4G Touch and see if that makes a difference? Or should I dump my Sprint contract all together?
    09-25-2011 02:16 AM
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