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Hahaha crapple fanboys have some humor. Ya its cool keeping a homescreen stock when you can't change it very easily. I love waiting a year to get additions available in android by default since its inception. And having to buy a new phone to get the full advantage of os updates. I like having to wait for a 'jailbreak' tool for months to be able to seriously tweak my phone in any way. I love knowing that the 'innovation' on my device is really 'borrowing'. I love being so worried about being competitive in a market that I rely on outdated and illogical copyright laws to sue companies out of competing with me. To close I love bringing nothing truly innovative to the table, I love screwing my customers over by trying to lock them out of their own devices, and I love forcing them to pay more for menial changes to an already outdated os by the time its released. I'm going to charge twice as much for half the hardware and put a picture of a fruit on it... that'll sell! Oh xerox id like to thank you for letting me steal from you... and america id like to thank you for seeing me through almost a decade of failed hardware and marketing.

In a decade ask ms and crapple how closed source is working for them...
 

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Hahaha crapple fanboys have some humor. Ya its cool keeping a homescreen stock when you can't change it very easily. I love waiting a year to get additions available in android by default since its inception. And having to buy a new phone to get the full advantage of os updates. I like having to wait for a 'jailbreak' tool for months to be able to seriously tweak my phone in any way. I love knowing that the 'innovation' on my device is really 'borrowing'. I love being so worried about being competitive in a market that I rely on outdated and illogical copyright laws to sue companies out of competing with me. To close I love bringing nothing truly innovative to the table, I love screwing my customers over by trying to lock them out of their own devices, and I love forcing them to pay more for menial changes to an already outdated os by the time its released. I'm going to charge twice as much for half the hardware and put a picture of a fruit on it... that'll sell! Oh xerox id like to thank you for letting me steal from you... and america id like to thank you for seeing me through almost a decade of failed hardware and marketing.

In a decade ask ms and crapple how closed source is working for them...

Calm yourself, you're acting like a child. Wasn't really expecting an answer like this. I was merely joking around. I've had a Nexus S 4G and an EVO 4G. I liked them both (especially the NS4G with ICS rooted), but the iPhone just works out better for me. That's all. I'm no fan boy. I don't really care about customization either. I was never really into it on either of my Android phones. I never changed the icons. I liked widgets but at most I had weather and a clock (An app with an icon badge does the weather for me.) Again, I could care less about tweaking my device. There's really nothing else I want to do with it that I can't already do. It all just works fine for me.

Also, I didn't pay more for my 4S than my Android phone. Galaxy S II for Sprint off contract is $499.99 and my 4S is $749.99 off contract. I sold my previous Android phone for 300 and I ended up paying 400 for my 4S. IOS isn't the only closed source OS. Try Blackberry and Windows Phone 7. And no, iOS users don't need to buy a new device to take advantage of OS updates. The 3 year old iPhone 3GS still supports every feature of iOS 5. Heck, the 3rd gen iTouch supports it too. Android is fragmented. The only device that supports an update fully is a pure Google device. Otherwise, you've got a custom skin over Android which sometimes comes with bloat (although you can delete it....most of the time, anyway). In reality, the "outdated OS" actually performs better than Android. Apps don't force close all time. Not once have I had to worry about downloading malware on my iPhone...just saying.

The Galaxy S II, and the more recent Android phones, are actually really nice, there's no denying that, but the fact that iOS works best for is what makes the difference.

I'm not gonna start a war so I'll just leave it at that. I was only joking around, but you obviously didn't take it as a joke for some reason.

EDIT: Btw, Most consumers don't care about "closed source (most don't know what it means). And most don't care about "innovation" or "jailbreaking", or copyright laws, or xerox (not sure what it has to do with iPhone or Android but ok). You're making the iPhone out to be a horrible device, but Apple sold 37million iPhones in a 14 week period last quarter. There hardware and marketing must be pretty bad.
 
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Calm yourself, you're acting like a child. Wasn't really expecting an answer like this. I was merely joking around. I've had a Nexus S 4G and an EVO 4G. I liked them both (especially the NS4G with ICS rooted), but the iPhone just works out better for me. That's all. I'm no fan boy. I don't really care about customization either. I was never really into it on either of my Android phones. I never changed the icons. I liked widgets but at most I had weather and a clock (An app with an icon badge does the weather for me.) Again, I could care less about tweaking my device. There's really nothing else I want to do with it that I can't already do. It all just works fine for me.

Also, I didn't pay more for my 4S than my Android phone. Galaxy S II for Sprint off contract is $499.99 and my 4S is $749.99 off contract. I sold my previous Android phone for 300 and I ended up paying 400 for my 4S. IOS isn't the only closed source OS. Try Blackberry and Windows Phone 7. And no, iOS users don't need to buy a new device to take advantage of OS updates. The 3 year old iPhone 3GS still supports every feature of iOS 5. Heck, the 3rd gen iTouch supports it too. Android is fragmented. The only device that supports an update fully is a pure Google device. Otherwise, you've got a custom skin over Android which sometimes comes with bloat (although you can delete it....most of the time, anyway). In reality, the "outdated OS" actually performs better than Android. Apps don't force close all time. Not once have I had to worry about downloading malware on my iPhone...just saying.

The Galaxy S II, and the more recent Android phones, are actually really nice, there's no denying that, but the fact that iOS works best for is what makes the difference.

I'm not gonna start a war so I'll just leave it at that. I was only joking around, but you obviously didn't take it as a joke for some reason.

EDIT: Btw, Most consumers don't care about "closed source (most don't know what it means). And most don't care about "innovation" or "jailbreaking", or copyright laws, or xerox (not sure what it has to do with iPhone or Android but ok). You're making the iPhone out to be a horrible device, but Apple sold 37million iPhones in a 14 week period last quarter. There hardware and marketing must be pretty bad.

If ios works for you that's great... but I want to point out a few things to maybe allow you to see the perspective I'm coming from.

Alright let's start... siri... buy new hw...that's the first thing that came to mind when I read your post.

Apples fight against samsung and htc makes me want to go patent the shape of a cheeseburger and sue mcdonalds billions and billions of times.

Look up steve jobs and xerox... you'll see what it takes to make innovation happen.

Let's see. In law ignorance of the law is no excuse for breaking the law. The point you made about most users not knowing what closed source is is true and also equally sad. Obviously you aren't grasping what open source means to a market. As far as force closes... id suggest user error. Its easy to prevent problems when you lock your device down to such specific formats (eg windows and apple). The great thing about android is anybody regardless of income can own a newgen phone and customize it how they see fit. They can get a device big or small, cheap or expensive, and make it what they want in a phone. But hey... stick with ios. Its your money. I just think you should read about apples fight against android. If you can't see that killing the innovation consumers obviously want (given the market shares now) you're not grasping what I'm getting at nor really discrediting the fanboy from my opinion above. I mean where would the iphone be without borrowing from android. You'd still lack a notification window and be unable to
multitask. I honestly think apple is scared of android and whatever os comes next that moves on from the current setup.

I do have a bad taste in my mouth regarding apple but I'm not going to go into the ridiculous number of problems with apples actions with the iphone/ipad/mac of late. Also... apple is not malware proof. I can post countless links of iphone/ipod touch/and mac virii/malware.

The custom skin you speak of isn't what causes your force closes. The launcher is most likely what you're referring to as a 'skin' and generally its not a launcher doing it. That would be your provider assuming to know android programming and failing miserably in most cases. Or an app developer who released an app that wasn't fully tested. But that's a price you pay when you have a (omg) selection of devices you can buy and who you wanna buy from. This doesn't point to a flaw in the android os... you're not thinking your argument through.

As far as windows mobile and blackberry... I hate win mobile. Not a huge fan of blackberrys but they're a decent business oriented device. But then again a picture of a blackberry or a windows mobile homescreen wasn't posted in here.


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If ios works for you that's great... but I want to point out a few things to maybe allow you to see the perspective I'm coming from.

Alright let's start... siri... buy new hw...that's the first thing that came to mind when I read your post.

Apples fight against samsung and htc makes me want to go patent the shape of a cheeseburger and sue mcdonalds billions and billions of times.

Look up steve jobs and xerox... you'll see what it takes to make innovation happen.

Let's see. In law ignorance of the law is no excuse for breaking the law. The point you made about most users not knowing what closed source is is true and also equally sad. Obviously you aren't grasping what open source means to a market. As far as force closes... id suggest user error. Its easy to prevent problems when you lock your device down to such specific formats (eg windows and apple). The great thing about android is anybody regardless of income can own a newgen phone and customize it how they see fit. They can get a device big or small, cheap or expensive, and make it what they want in a phone. But hey... stick with ios. Its your money. I just think you should read about apples fight against android. If you can't see that killing the innovation consumers obviously want (given the market shares now) you're not grasping what I'm getting at nor really discrediting the fanboy from my opinion above. I mean where would the iphone be without borrowing from android. You'd still lack a notification window and be unable to
multitask. I honestly think apple is scared of android and whatever os comes next that moves on from the current setup.

I do have a bad taste in my mouth regarding apple but I'm not going to go into the ridiculous number of problems with apples actions with the iphone/ipad/mac of late. Also... apple is not malware proof. I can post countless links of iphone/ipod touch/and mac virii/malware.

The custom skin you speak of isn't what causes your force closes. The launcher is most likely what you're referring to as a 'skin' and generally its not a launcher doing it. That would be your provider assuming to know android programming and failing miserably in most cases. Or an app developer who released an app that wasn't fully tested. But that's a price you pay when you have a (omg) selection of devices you can buy and who you wanna buy from. This doesn't point to a flaw in the android os... you're not thinking your argument through.

As far as windows mobile and blackberry... I hate win mobile. Not a huge fan of blackberrys but they're a decent business oriented device. But then again a picture of a blackberry or a windows mobile homescreen wasn't posted in here.


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You don't need to talk to me like I have no idea what's going on in the technology industry. I have my own blog and I'd call myself a tech enthusiast. That's besides the point.

You obviously don't understand marketing because Siri is a marketing cue and Apple's not the only company who does that. Every device has something better over the last one in order for the company to make money. And yes, I do point out that most users don't care for "closed source" or "open source". All you have to do is go into a high school, for example, and ask them if they know what closed source means and if they know that their iPhone is closed source. 99 percent of them won't know what you're talking about. Go into store and ask people if they know their iPhone is closed source and most of them will have no clue what you're saying.

Ok, so now you're saying it's my fault (user error) that my Android phone force closed apps? I've never had one crash on my iPhone. You can have an iPhone regardless of income too. It's pretty much all the same plans for both phones. Some Android phones have a pretty hefty price, too. The Galaxy Nexus is 299.99 on contract on Verizon. The Droid Razr Maxx is also 299.99 off contract and the Droid Razr is 249.99. There's an example of what you said about Siri in your first sentence. The Droid Razr and the Droid Razr Maxx are essentially the exact same phones. They are the exact same phones with the exact same features yet their batteries are at two ends of the spectrum. Want the same device but with a better battery? Gotta buy the Razr Maxx. Of course you could buy a cheap Android phone if you have a low income, but that's not really a "newgen" device like you said. I do know about the ongoing patent "war" between Apple and all the Android OEMs, trust me. Again, I told you I'm not a fanboy. I'm actually considering the GS3 as my next phone. And believe me, Apple has no reason to be scared when they are, year after year, consistently selling boatloads of their iPhones.

Sure, Apple isn't 100% malware proof. If I said it like that I didn't mean it, but it's quite obvious how much less of a threat malware is to iOS than Android. I don't have to worry about downloading an application from the App Store and hoping it doesn't have malware on it. Most of the security threats on iOS have been through the browser and Apple has patched them pretty quickly, or at least acknowledged them.

I never said the custom skin caused the force closes. Right there you're admitting to the fact that app developers are not as careful with Android as they are with iOS. It doesn't matter that they are developing for Android which has a wide selection of devices. The only thing that differs between them is the OS version and screen size. So, if they test their apps correctly, or if they specify requirements for using their apps, there should be no issue at all.

I never said Windows mobile. Windows Mobile was discontinued with it's last release about two years ago. I never said a BB or WP7 home screen was posted here. I merelyu using the OS's as an example.
 

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You don't need to talk to me like I have no idea what's going on in the technology industry. I have my own blog and I'd call myself a tech enthusiast. That's besides the point.

You obviously don't understand marketing because Siri is a marketing cue and Apple's not the only company who does that. Every device has something better over the last one in order for the company to make money. And yes, I do point out that most users don't care for "closed source" or "open source". All you have to do is go into a high school, for example, and ask them if they know what closed source means and if they know that their iPhone is closed source. 99 percent of them won't know what you're talking about. Go into store and ask people if they know their iPhone is closed source and most of them will have no clue what you're saying.

Ok, so now you're saying it's my fault (user error) that my Android phone force closed apps? I've never had one crash on my iPhone. You can have an iPhone regardless of income too. It's pretty much all the same plans for both phones. Some Android phones have a pretty hefty price, too. The Galaxy Nexus is 299.99 on contract on Verizon. The Droid Razr Maxx is also 299.99 off contract and the Droid Razr is 249.99. There's an example of what you said about Siri in your first sentence. The Droid Razr and the Droid Razr Maxx are essentially the exact same phones. They are the exact same phones with the exact same features yet their batteries are at two ends of the spectrum. Want the same device but with a better battery? Gotta buy the Razr Maxx. Of course you could buy a cheap Android phone if you have a low income, but that's not really a "newgen" device like you said. I do know about the ongoing patent "war" between Apple and all the Android OEMs, trust me. Again, I told you I'm not a fanboy. I'm actually considering the GS3 as my next phone. And believe me, Apple has no reason to be scared when they are, year after year, consistently selling boatloads of their iPhones.

Sure, Apple isn't 100% malware proof. If I said it like that I didn't mean it, but it's quite obvious how much less of a threat malware is to iOS than Android. I don't have to worry about downloading an application from the App Store and hoping it doesn't have malware on it. Most of the security threats on iOS have been through the browser and Apple has patched them pretty quickly, or at least acknowledged them.

I never said the custom skin caused the force closes. Right there you're admitting to the fact that app developers are not as careful with Android as they are with iOS. It doesn't matter that they are developing for Android which has a wide selection of devices. The only thing that differs between them is the OS version and screen size. So, if they test their apps correctly, or if they specify requirements for using their apps, there should be no issue at all.

I never said Windows mobile. Windows Mobile was discontinued with it's last release about two years ago. I never said a BB or WP7 home screen was posted here. I merelyu using the OS's as an example.

Lol dude you didn't grasp what I said at all you're just repeating yourself now. Whether or not people know what closed and open source means has nothing to do with why open source is a better idea with regards to true innovation.

Again siri is a buy a new phone marketing tool...gotta love apple. Windows is far from gone in the mobile market the new nokia windows phones being a good example.

Yes android phones are of varying prices... unlike apple. And you're crazy to think even the cheaper android phones aren't a newgen phone. See nokia 3360 vs say a samsung precedent.

And since you still aren't grasping the android market. There are literally hundreds if not thousands of android devices with varying hardware configurations... which is the reason for the occasional glitch in software. But at least users have a choice regardless of their income they can get a decent phone...yet again.

Your making the majority of people out to be naive and using it as your pro apple argument. Do you not see a problem there?

Also its funny you mention not having to worry about downloading malware from the apple store... google that.

Can I guest write for your blog? Lol

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