10-11-2011 10:55 AM
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  1. DuStU's Avatar
    I myself was holding out for the pre3 and was sadly let down by the whole HP fiasco. I checked out IOS to see how it has evolved(same garbage). Then I checked out Windows new OS and then 2.3.4. To be honest I really loved Windows new OS and got to play with it. It is well polished and runs great but then I checked out the phones they had available and they where all sad.

    I then ran across the the Samsung long name phone. Online I was like wow this phone is sexyyyyyy. In person it is even way more sexy. Even my iphone hating friends say it too. I then checked out Androids OS on this and was surprised how much Google has evolved this OS. I hated all the clutter but then realised... Hey I can set it up however I want.

    The first day was ROUGH. Although everything is blazing fast I just couldnt figure out for the life of me how to do simple things on the fly. I figured this would happen and that it would take me liek a day to get the basics and then in a month I would really get into the details. As a huge WebOS fan I wish palm made a phone like this. This phone is just incredible and the Market is awesome.


    My question to all of you here is how many of you jumped ship from HPalm to Google and how is it going for you so far? OOOH and by the way I made the choice not to do a cards app. I want to learn android fully before deciding if I need cards or not.... I dont think I will.
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    09-18-2011 02:11 AM
  2. youngjediboy's Avatar
    Screw HP! (that would be a good signature, wouldn't it? )

    I think there are a lot of us around here. After HP took the big dump on us it was time to start looking around. I also had considered WP7, but it's still new and don't want to have deja vu with a new mobile OS again. It looked promising, but so did webOS, and look how that turned out. I'd wait another generation or two before considering WP7, especially with the Nokia partnership there's lots of potential there.

    But I had the original Sprint Pre minus which was on it's last legs and I had to pick something now. Android is totally dominating right now so it was a no-brainer. I was also wowed after seeing the specs of this Samsung monster phone and I just had to get it! While I still miss webOS, I have no regrets and am enjoying learning all about Android now.
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    09-18-2011 02:19 AM
  3. atl10pnr's Avatar
    Yep jumped shipper here also. Never really looked at the Win7 phone. Reason being is that since Sprint was going to add another $10 to my bill might as well be 4G. Like you thought that clutter would be a problem. Mainly because the way my friends seem to have theirs set up. Now knowing can set it up without clutter made me happy. Right now disappointed in one app that doesn't work quite right. My favorite twitter app isn't here but knew that coming in. The thing that is hard to get used to is remembering and knowing is the menu button. So used to gesture area. lol . This will pass as the phone is bad to the bone. Boots up 20 times faster than my Pre did. Get to use Opera Mobile browser.
    09-18-2011 02:45 AM
  4. fuguphish's Avatar
    Same here. Just picked up my e4gtouch on Saturday. WebOS was smart and polished. No regrets jumping to android though.
    09-18-2011 02:54 AM
  5. ZATZAi's Avatar
    I too came from WebOS on the original Pre- that I got at launch. Was tough when we never even got the Pre+, not that it was a new phone or anything, just an improved Pre. Palm really dropped the ball not coming out with a new phone after a year, but I was ok enough. Waited for the next Pre, as my old phone started to debilitate, seemed like Google Maps got slower and slower and then often wouldn't work at all. Software updates for the phone stopped coming, etc...

    I was ready to jump on the Pre3 if they'd just announce it for Sprint, but it seemed that wasn't in the cards. I wasn't really willing to switch to AT&T for any phone, maybe Verizon... but I wouldn't be happy about it. My contract ran up and I was looking at either switching carriers to stay with WebOS or go Android (Was looking at the Photon). Then we had the whole Hp Touchpad fiasco. I already had an iPad 1 so was taking a wait and see approach with the Touchpad (Glad I did), and it became clear there was no future for the Pre3 it was Dead On Arrival.

    Since I had already been waiting and looking at the Photon, head about this new phone coming out from Samsung, And decided to go with it over the Photon. I've had it for about 2 days now, since it just launched on Sprint. Still getting used to it, it's different, but I like it so far (The widgets are very nice). I am struggling with how to sync my music to the phone though... It was easy on the Pre because it emulated an iPhone/iPod, and I just used Media Monkey, not so easy with Android it seems.
    09-18-2011 03:15 AM
  6. Honis#WP's Avatar
    I had a similar experience as you DuStU. I stopped waiting for the Pre 3 a few days before the fateful announcement. Tried the windows phone Sprint has, loved the OS, loved the Mango updates they were demoing and then I made an actual phone call. Very uncomfortable phone to hold against the ear and the slider didn't have the snap my previous slider phones had (and what's up with that hinge? the screen had pretty good viewing angles so it really didn't need to tilt). After about 3 days I returned it for a Nexus S. I got use to Android through it and the only thing I didn't like was the screen (pen tile? regardless, I could see the separation between pixels and it was annoying). On day 28 (Friday) I returned the Nexus and got the new Epic. Loving it so far (as much as I can bring myself to love android.)

    I was overjoyed to find out the back panel is plastic. I'm still working on it, but I'm attempting to graft the inductive coil into it without void my warranty. Using this as inspiration: Inductive cellphone charging without voiding warranty - Hack a Day
    09-18-2011 03:27 AM
  7. tdoom15's Avatar
    I'm in the same boat but havent abandoned ship yet. We got my gf the g s2 coming from the evo 3d. I like the sense lock screen better, but I like eveything else about touchwiz, felt more comfortable coming from webOS.

    Dolphin browser also helped improved the web browsing experience exponentially. If I had to stick with stock android tapping so many times to get between windows, I wouldn't even be contemplating the switch right now.

    I also sorely miss the physical keyboard and one hand operation of the pre. I find myself having to constantly use 2 hands with the larger g s2, and I hate touch keyboards.

    Lastly I would miss the ease of switching between apps and webOS' brilliant notifications. Swipe up and over, done. Not tap tap tap tap, it's so much more tedious than webOS.

    That being said, the level of customization can really alleviate a lot of those problems to an extent, and the shear speed is quite amazing. I also love all the extra screen space and all the excellent features that come along with new hardware. Ultimately I haven't made up my mind, I have a brand new pre 2 sitting here begging to be franken pre'd, but I don't know what I will do.
    09-18-2011 03:31 AM
  8. jaguax's Avatar
    Coming from a launch day pre. No regrets, this phone is incredible. I just gotta get used to the virtual keyboard. Swype is pretty amazing.
    09-18-2011 03:53 AM
  9. Wiley_11's Avatar
    I dumped my Pre after 2 years in June and love Android. Just remember the guy that developed webOS, Matias Duarte, is bringing Ice Cream Sandwich to Android in the next few months

    Some good reference material for webOS refugees is a sticky at the top of the page "(Read Me First)Epic Touch 4G Tips" by Milominderbinder. He also has Palm Users Guide To Android that is very helpful..
    09-18-2011 05:21 AM
  10. Mikest's Avatar
    Had an original Pre Minus on Sprint from Launch day until HP announced they were killing webOS. Frustrated I went out and got a Photon 4G the very next day, then returned it for the Epic Touch 4G on friday. Android's no where near as intuitive but I'm getting used to it. I miss the keyboard and the smooth user experience but the improved specs on the hardware and the collection of apps available softens the blow quite a bit.
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    09-18-2011 06:58 AM
  11. aviatordoc's Avatar
    Same deal here. I bought an EVO3d to see if i liked Android OS and not use my upgrade. Its working out very well so far. Still getting used to the virtual keyboard but the thing i miss most is the TS charging.
    Have to go in and check the new samsung
    09-18-2011 07:28 AM
  12. ShanTheMan's Avatar
    original launch day pre-...waited for pre+ on sprint, waited for pre2 on sprint, waited for pre3....with hp being so incompetent i gave up and i'm in love with my SGSIIE4GT
    09-18-2011 07:48 AM
  13. FickleBJT's Avatar
    I came over from webos. The Pre3 would have been my next phone. Once HP canceled it I began my search. WinPhone7 was my second choice (I know someone on the WinPhone7 team), but the only phone Sprint had wasn't that great.

    Ultimately I'm much happier with android than I would have been with WinPhone7, and the sheer speed of my Epic 4g touch more than makes up for the stuff that I miss from webos (mainly cards).
    09-18-2011 08:31 AM
  14. pb_2000's Avatar
    ...Lastly I would miss the ease of switching between apps and webOS' brilliant notifications. Swipe up and over, done. Not tap tap tap tap, it's so much more tedious than webOS...
    You can active the taskmanager by long press on the home button and you have the choice of last 6 recent (incl. currently running apps) to choose from.
    09-18-2011 08:43 AM
  15. folarino's Avatar
    I am struggling with how to sync my music to the phone though... It was easy on the Pre because it emulated an iPhone/iPod, and I just used Media Monkey, not so easy with Android it seems.
    I too used MediaMonkey to sync music to my Pre, then my Evo and now the Epic touch. What are you struggling with?

    Also, the phone has Kies Air which you can transfer photos, videos, music etc wirelessly from your desktop. Don't know how fast that is though.
    09-18-2011 08:52 AM
  16. graffix31's Avatar
    im in the same boat. came from the palm pre. really wish there was a webos phone like this but i am not complaining. i really love this phone. couldnt be happier. im with you too, it def takes a little bit to get used to the layout and os but i am getting it and the phone being so awesome helps get over the learning curve. plus i have a touchpad so that keeps my webos fix.
    09-18-2011 09:09 AM
  17. Dixie's Avatar
    I'm a transplant, too, with a Sprint Pre. I actually gave up on a Pre3 about 2 weeks before HP kicked WebOS to the curb mostly due to the delays and living in a 4G area I didn't want to be stuck another 2 years with 3G. I only considered Android since most of my family has Androids. I'm having fun learning, and the kids think it's cool to know something mom doesn't and they help out whenever I have a problem.
    09-18-2011 09:17 AM
  18. gksspot555's Avatar
    add me to the list... Should be getting our sgsIIs when we get back from vacation today. I will miss webOS but at least I have a firestorm touchpad to help me slowly get the drug out of system.

    My hope is Duarte can work some magic on android and I think he will.
    09-18-2011 09:52 AM
  19. ZATZAi's Avatar
    I too used MediaMonkey to sync music to my Pre, then my Evo and now the Epic touch. What are you struggling with?

    Also, the phone has Kies Air which you can transfer photos, videos, music etc wirelessly from your desktop. Don't know how fast that is though.


    At this point, just getting MM to detect the phone in the first place. I've played around in Kieselguhr Air which seems to be very slow, whether using it through the browser or via the desktop program. I just want to be able to transfer over the music from MM though, I liked how it would preserve my playlists, ratings, cover art and etc when used with my Pre.
    09-18-2011 10:14 AM
  20. kimdushinski's Avatar
    Thank you all for posting your thoughts. I am a launch day Pre girl and while I have decided to move on to Android, I just can't seem to make the leap.

    My biggest block is the lack of physical keyboard. How bad is it, really? I am considering going with the Epic 4G just to keep a keyboard, but I understand it is actually on its way out of the lineup and I don't want to have my new phone already be old. LOL

    Oh, and does it strike any of you as ironic that we are going from one of the shortest named phones to the longest? Seriously, what are we calling this thing?
    09-18-2011 10:28 AM
  21. milominderbinde's Avatar
    I have a Palm Pre still and now an Epic 4G Touch. Part of the differences you are seeing are just the differences when you go from one car to another. The Cruise Control is in a different place. The wipers are a little different.

    The biggest difference is that you are going from an Manual to an Automatic. You have always done your multitasking by hand. Now it will just happen automatically.

    Check out the Palm webOS Homebrewer's Guide to Android and the Getting Started. They will walk you through everything.
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    09-18-2011 01:11 PM
  22. youngjediboy's Avatar
    Thank you all for posting your thoughts. I am a launch day Pre girl and while I have decided to move on to Android, I just can't seem to make the leap.

    My biggest block is the lack of physical keyboard. How bad is it, really? I am considering going with the Epic 4G just to keep a keyboard, but I understand it is actually on its way out of the lineup and I don't want to have my new phone already be old. LOL

    Oh, and does it strike any of you as ironic that we are going from one of the shortest named phones to the longest? Seriously, what are we calling this thing?
    It's really not that bad regarding the keyboard. I also was really worried about switching to a virtual keyboard. I've always preferred hardware keys, but just having the phone for a day now I'm starting to get used to it. Swype is definitely very cool and at least for most common words can predict what you're trying to swype, it's only for some names and rare words where I'd have to peck out the words. Also, with the huge screen it wasn't a problem. In the past I've only ever tried out virtual keyboards on friends' iPhones, which are quite smaller, and I thought I would never be able to adjust. But here I am and it really isn't as big of a deal as I thought it would be.
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    09-18-2011 03:19 PM
  23. maskedferret's Avatar
    I'm another launch-day Sprint Pre migrant. Still experiencing a bit of separation anxiety from WebOS, but I'm slowly getting familiar with moving around Android OS.

    So far I am not too crazy about having to give up task management to the system. I am noticing not all apps will maintain their previous state after having been killed. The virtual keyboard is taking some getting used to, but I know it will get better over time.

    Regardless, these dislikes do not overshadow the huge improvements in coming to this phone; faster and better hardware, applications galore, and widgets -- to name a few of the things I am very happy about.
    09-18-2011 03:55 PM
  24. folarino's Avatar
    At this point, just getting MM to detect the phone in the first place. I just want to be able to transfer over the music from MM though, I liked how it would preserve my playlists, ratings, cover art and etc when used with my Pre.
    Ok 2 questions:

    1. When you connect your Epic4GT to your desktop/laptop does your phone say MTP-Connected?
    2. If so, when you open My Computer do you see SPH-D710 listed as a portable device?

    If you don't see SPH-D710 most likely don't have the device driver installed. I believe this is an issue with compatiblity with Windows 7 64 bit.

    The fix is to download the driver in device mgr. Open Device manager and expand Portable devices.
    You should have SPH-D710 (Galaxy s2)
    Double click it and have windows search for a driver (not on your computer). it will find one and you should be good to go.

    Open MediaMonkey and you should now see SPH-D710 (Phone) and SPH-D710 (Card). You can select which one to sync to. SPH-D710 (Phone) is your phone's internal storage and SPH-D710 (Card) is your SD card.
    09-18-2011 04:44 PM
  25. mpnalvin's Avatar
    @Kim For me, the virtual keyboard is a huge deal. I typed a lot on my Pre. I've tried swype, swift keyboard, stock Android keyboard, Samsung keyboard and others. None of them come anywhere close to having a hardware keyboard in terms of speed or accuracy. The advanced ones, like swype and swift implicitly admit the problem by noting how much they save you from having to type. When they work well, they do indeed save typing. When they work poorly, you end up having to type everything twice. On the other hand, I tried the original Epic that has a hardware keyboard, and it seemed to be trying to be a hardware version of a virtual keyboard -- flat, with very little tactile feedback. I don't see a high-performance Android device out there that has a hardware keyboard well designed for typing. In that case, it's a matter of whether you can put up with it to get all the other great things that come with Android. I think for me I might get used to it eventually. My wife likes her fingernails, and for her it's the number one problem with Android.
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    09-18-2011 05:58 PM
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