View Poll Results: Are he data issues with Sprint enough to make you jump ship?

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  • Yes, I tried the Eptouch and the data was terrible so I'm outta here

    10 19.23%
  • No, the data isnt that bad and I'm going to stick it out

    30 57.69%
  • I'm still not sure

    12 23.08%
10-11-2011 09:10 AM
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  1. Zorachus's Avatar
    That prime sounds so tempting!! Especially the thought of a 1280x720 HD screen, wow! And a possible metal body. Im in.

    Sent from my Sprint Eptouch 4G
    I can not freaking wait to see some real pic's and videos of this beast.
    09-18-2011 08:54 PM
  2. maverick96's Avatar
    I doubt the iPhone is going to make all that huge a difference in Sprint's network load. I don't see a stampede of people joining Sprint for the iPhone, since it's already available on the two biggest networks. And I don't think current Sprint customers are necessarily going to use hugely more data on the iPhone then they used on their previous smartphones.
    If Sprint keeps the unlimited data expect the stampede. As far as their network holding up? Now that's another story

    Sent from my Sprint Eptouch 4G
    09-18-2011 08:56 PM
  3. Got2buzz's Avatar
    First of all I want to thank all who take the time and effort to post-I appreciate you! Living on the far North side of Chicago, this thread is a great help to me in a final phone selection.

    For way too many months I have bee struggling (sp?) to get by with my POS BB that I have used for Internet via PDAnet. As you might imagine it has been snail slow, but until now I thought it was entirely due to the phone.

    At first I was sure the Evo3D was my savior, but then I read about poor call quality and funky reception. Besides the phone just didn't do it for me.

    Then I was positive the Photon was it. Really liked the phone and knew of Moto's great radios. Then I saw the screen which was a problem even with my less than perfect eye sight. No sale.

    Then the phone of all phones-the one to beat-the giant killer-the ET2 (or whatever). Very late to the party and as I predicted, within weeks of the iPhone release (bone heads ) Now it's data performance, pixelated print, as well as the Sprint network in general appears to be huge issues.

    I'm not a hater that never will buy I phone-I'm aching to buy something. All I want is fast Internet that will stream Netflix when I want, decent call quality and sharp print for reading web pages. That's it.

    I just don't know which way to turn. Maybe wait one more time for Apple to come through with a 4" screen and I'll live with 3G only?

    This is getting way too old-and so is this &^%#@% BB! Thoughts?
    09-18-2011 09:02 PM
  4. CrashPush's Avatar
    I doubt the iPhone is going to make all that huge a difference in Sprint's network load. I don't see a stampede of people joining Sprint for the iPhone, since it's already available on the two biggest networks. And I don't think current Sprint customers are necessarily going to use hugely more data on the iPhone then they used on their previous smartphones.
    I agree. Sprint's iPhone is just going to be a kind of "since you didn't jump ship before to try an iPhone, now we got it so here's your chance" phone. I also believe that most of Sprint's customers will always be Android users.

    I'm in New York City and service here has also declined. And I'm talking about voice and data. I'm giving them until early next to get their act together or I'm moving my main line back to my Verizon account.
    09-18-2011 09:05 PM
  5. Zorachus's Avatar
    Got2buzz, I would strongly suggest just waiting another 5-6 weeks, it will be worth the wait. The "Nexus-Prime" is the next generation Android device, all new 4.0 "Ice Cream" build radically updating the entire OS, and the phone itself is supposed to be amazing, with the best highest res screen ever created for a smartphone. Will be razor thin and metal chassis.

    Rumors point to a November 3rd release on Verizon and November 24th on ATT, Sprint possibly in December.
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    09-18-2011 09:08 PM
  6. GoBigRed79's Avatar
    This is the one thing that has kept me from moving to Sprint. I have grandfathered unlimited data with Verizon and their LTE service is awesome. I am getting an average of 17mbps down and 4.3mbps up on my Bionic. I will probably be getting the Prime when it is released and it should be the best phone to have for awhile.
    AZDROIDX likes this.
    09-18-2011 09:29 PM
  7. maverick96's Avatar
    This is the one thing that has kept me from moving to Sprint. I have grandfathered unlimited data with Verizon and their LTE service is awesome. I am getting an average of 17mbps down and 4.3mbps up on my Bionic. I will probably be getting the Prime when it is released and it should be the best phone to have for awhile.
    With those speeds your getting, you would want to cry if you left for Sprint. I can't even hit 1 measly MB on the download.
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    09-18-2011 09:33 PM
  8. eagle63's Avatar
    Towers require new software and (I think) new modems. Sprint's recent smartphones, from at least the EVO 4G onward, already support Rev B.

    The reason Sprint might go this way is that they have minimal Wimax footprint and will take several years to get significant LTE footprint. Rev B would allow them to provide a good high speed data experience (better than what AT&T has been marketing as "4G" for the past few years) in all markets well ahead of when they could possibly achieve this with LTE. Time is of the essence since they botched Wimax -- they can't provide competitive high speed data in a huge part of their coverage area and they are going to lose customers rapidly if they don't fix this fast. Rev B is the fastest way to remedy this. There was actually lots of talk about Rev B happening back in the mid-2000s, but at some point Sprint got the brilliant idea to jump on Wimax and stop working on deployment of further updates to EVDO. With 20/20 hindsight, they would have been better off passing on Wimax, fully exploiting Rev B then moving directly to LTE.
    Interesting, thanks for the info. I didn't realize that Sprint's recent CDMA radios also supported Rev B. I sure hope they do that, would definitely keep me on Sprint - but somehow I doubt it. I remember back years ago (like 2005'ish) when EVDO first came onto the scene and it was widely thought that all the CDMA carriers would quickly jump right up to Rev B. (rev B also supports simultaneous voice/data I think..) Obviously that never happened. In fact, are there any CDMA networks anywhere in the world that are operating EVDO Rev B? Maybe Korea??

    The problem with LTE is the same beef I have with Wimax, which is that it requires a separate radio. Battery life is always tenuous on modern smartphones, and the thought of having a 2nd cellular radio on all the time just bothers me. Especially a radio that is as power hungry as Wimax or LTE. That's why I like HSPA: decent data speeds, simultaneous voice/data, and all on the same radio. Someday when LTE is everywhere then it won't matter since we'll be doing voip on LTE, but that "someday" is a long way off methinks.
    09-18-2011 09:44 PM
  9. Bmin's Avatar
    Louisville, Ky here and I can barely get 500k on a good day. With this terrible speed and the dropping of the premier program is leaving me wondering why I stay. Bleh.
    09-18-2011 09:47 PM
  10. Johnly's Avatar
    If Sprint keeps the unlimited data expect the stampede. As far as their network holding up? Now that's another story

    Sent from my Sprint Eptouch 4G
    Caped data is for noobs. Most iphone enthusiasts have one and have unlimited data on the two power houses. Nobody is rushing to Sprint for unlimited data on a iphone. VZW didn't let me go either, LYRICS and unlimited 4G hotpot. This network hauls. The iphone will still certainly attract first time users ;-)
    09-18-2011 09:52 PM
  11. Droid800's Avatar
    Interesting, thanks for the info. I didn't realize that Sprint's recent CDMA radios also supported Rev B. I sure hope they do that, would definitely keep me on Sprint - but somehow I doubt it. I remember back years ago (like 2005'ish) when EVDO first came onto the scene and it was widely thought that all the CDMA carriers would quickly jump right up to Rev B. (rev B also supports simultaneous voice/data I think..) Obviously that never happened. In fact, are there any CDMA networks anywhere in the world that are operating EVDO Rev B? Maybe Korea??

    The problem with LTE is the same beef I have with Wimax, which is that it requires a separate radio. Battery life is always tenuous on modern smartphones, and the thought of having a 2nd cellular radio on all the time just bothers me. Especially a radio that is as power hungry as Wimax or LTE. That's why I like HSPA: decent data speeds, simultaneous voice/data, and all on the same radio. Someday when LTE is everywhere then it won't matter since we'll be doing voip on LTE, but that "someday" is a long way off methinks.
    You don't need a second radio. The second gen LTE chipsets are all multi-mode that do CDMA/evdo/LTE all off one chip. Wimax never got those because it's a boutique technology.

    As for Rev. B; when it was introduced carriers took a long hard look at it, but passed because they wanted to focus on 4g instead. For Verizon especially, their rev. A speeds are more than sufficient and stable, so there was no need for rev. B.

    In sprints situation, rev. B would be a great stopgap until they begin their LTE buildout, and it's actually doable since they're replacing all of their network equipment anyways due to network vision. Or in other words, the money is going to be spent regardless, so they might as well jump to rev. B in the process.


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    09-18-2011 10:15 PM
  12. maverick96's Avatar
    Caped data is for noobs. Most iphone enthusiasts have one and have unlimited data on the two power houses. Nobody is rushing to Sprint for unlimited data on a iphone. VZW didn't let me go either, LYRICS and unlimited 4G hotpot. This network hauls. The iphone will still certainly attract first time users ;-)
    Well i appreciate your enthusiasm, BUT "capped" data is far from being for noobs. I like many others do certainly appreciate unlimited, unthrottled data, but not at the cost of 200-400Kbps down. What's the point of all the data if it sucks? You get what you pay for has never been more true.

    Sent from my Sprint Eptouch 4G
    09-18-2011 10:34 PM
  13. eagle63's Avatar
    You don't need a second radio. The second gen LTE chipsets are all multi-mode that do CDMA/evdo/LTE all off one chip. Wimax never got those because it's a boutique technology.



    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
    Are today's LTE phones (like the Thunderbolt, Charge, etc) using that multi-mode chip? I know you can turn LTE off, which is why I assumed that meant it was a separate radio.
    09-18-2011 10:37 PM
  14. STL 314's Avatar
    I picked up the Eptouch 4G in the hopes that I could ditch my iP4 with AT&T and enjoy some unlimited data on Sprint with an awesome Android. Boy was I mistaken! The data speeds everywhere here in Chicago I have tested have been abysmal at best. I can't break 1Mbps down on 3G with Sprint to save my life. I consistently get 2-3Mbps down on my AT&T iP4 in the exact same places. What gives? Is this the price we pay for having unlimited data?? I know it isn't just me as I have seen MANY video reviews, including some recent ones from Aaron from phonedog, saying the exact same things. I love the Eptouch 4G, but absolutely hate Sprint's data. While it may be unlimited, I now understand the "get what you pay for" saying. Sprint needs to focus on this issue and stop wasting so much damn effort and money on this whole AT&T-Tmobile issue. Something like this will tarnish them into bankruptcy or buyout.
    Yikes down here in SW IL 3g speeds are decent 1.2-1.6 and 4g speeds are very good 6-10 MBPS
    09-18-2011 10:51 PM
  15. Cory Streater's Avatar
    This test was done back in 2009.

    09-18-2011 10:52 PM
  16. Johnly's Avatar
    Well i appreciate your enthusiasm, BUT "capped" data is far from being for noobs. I like many others do certainly appreciate unlimited, unthrottled data, but not at the cost of 200-400Kbps down. What's the point of all the data if it sucks? You get what you pay for has never been more true.

    Sent from my Sprint Eptouch 4G
    Maybe I should rephrase that. Capped data is for new contracts. The millions on unlimited are grandfathered in on whatever with whatever upgrades. I agree, sprint sucks here as well. On their website they even warn me that coverage is limited here. Not to mention slow slow slow. Agree, you get what you pay for. I would way rather have a fast data connection than a fast "looking" whatever.
    09-18-2011 10:58 PM
  17. Johnly's Avatar
    This test was done back in 2009.

    Cory my bro, this is almost 2012 and VZW is busting LTE vs Winmax. I wish I lived where sprint shined better. That would have made my network decision harder.
    09-18-2011 11:02 PM
  18. YBCold's Avatar
    Sorry to hear every person in this post is having some sprint service issues, but speeds down in SW FL are pretty consistent @ 890dwn & 470up.

    Sent from my GS2 E4GT using Tapatalk!
    09-18-2011 11:09 PM
  19. cacherpaderp's Avatar
    I'm sorry that you have bad 3g speeds. I wish I had 4g in my area. But, I get really good performance with 3g in my area of Riverside, CA. P.s. how do I take screenshots without the task manager pane in the way?
    09-18-2011 11:33 PM
  20. Ricolando's Avatar
    Here's what I got in the miami suburbs with about 2-3 bars on 3G. Sprint speeds are pretty good around here, but reception can be an issue.

    Sent from my Epic 4G Touch
    09-18-2011 11:37 PM
  21. cacherpaderp's Avatar
    Here's what I got in the miami suburbs with about 2-3 bars on 3G. Sprint speeds are pretty good around here, but reception can be an issue.

    Sent from my Epic 4G Touch
    How were you able to take a screenshot without the task manager in the way?
    09-18-2011 11:45 PM
  22. sfhub's Avatar
    Yeah just imagine a few million new iPhone5 users sucking up the Sprint bandwidth next month You think it's bad now, it will be unusable after that.

    I see Sprint's network practically crashing after the iPhone release. Time for me to jump to Verizon and get the Nexus-Prime on November 3rd, as long as I can find a family plan somewhat close to my Sprint plan, otherwise will check out ATT, they are getting the Prime on November 24th.
    Then think of a few million new iPhone5 users returning their Sprint iPhone for another carrier. You think they are going to be happy with crap speeds?
    09-19-2011 12:00 AM
  23. sfhub's Avatar
    I doubt the iPhone is going to make all that huge a difference in Sprint's network load. I don't see a stampede of people joining Sprint for the iPhone, since it's already available on the two biggest networks. And I don't think current Sprint customers are necessarily going to use hugely more data on the iPhone then they used on their previous smartphones.
    Smartphone to iPhone will probably be a wash in data used. The big increase is if lots of feature phone users that were holding out suddenly start getting smartphones, in this case iPhone 5. Then data usage will go up. The surge from other carriers will probably be a 1 quarter phenomenon from pent up demand, after that it'll settle back to every carrier has iPhone 5, so just base decision on which carrier you like better, which is the way its been for a long time with Android already. In case it wasn't clear, that second part I'm mostly agreeing with what you said.
    09-19-2011 12:02 AM
  24. sfhub's Avatar
    In sprints situation, rev. B would be a great stopgap until they begin their LTE buildout, and it's actually doable since they're replacing all of their network equipment anyways due to network vision. Or in other words, the money is going to be spent regardless, so they might as well jump to rev. B in the process.
    Why wouldn't they just do the LTE buildout as part of Network Vision?
    09-19-2011 12:07 AM
  25. Cory Streater's Avatar
    Cory my bro, this is almost 2012 and VZW is busting LTE vs Winmax. I wish I lived where sprint shined better. That would have made my network decision harder.
    Yeah just posted that as a reference point because people were saying it's gotten a lot worse over the last year or so.

    Here's a link to 2011 tests:

    The Fastest Mobile Networks 2011 - Chicago, IL | PCMag.com
    09-19-2011 12:07 AM
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