10-11-2011 11:09 PM
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  1. wrceuro's Avatar
    That will be the biggest mistake ever.
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    10-10-2011 05:56 PM
  2. milominderbinde's Avatar
    ..."Apple is an American company!" This phone and computer and tablet that I have been so ridiculously biased towards, is a true red white and blue American company!...
    Apple has never, ever made a single phone or tablet. The Foxconn iPhone's and Foxconn iPads are made in a labor camp in Asia. Foxcoon also does much of the design engineering.

    17 People have committed suicide working in that iPhone labor camp. They live in a compound surrounded by armed guards and barbed wire. They can't leave. They "work" for pennies an hour and often end up owning Foxconn more than they can make.

    It takes about 30 minutes of labor from materials to packaging to make a phone. By making it in a labor camp the labor cost a few cents. If a phone were made in "a true red white and blue American company", it would increase the cost by about $5 for a phone.

    Motorola was the last company who made phones in the US in a plant near Harvard, IL. We would not pay the $5 extra it cost to be made at "a true red white and blue American company" so it closed.

    Foxconn is not "a true red white and blue American company" any more than Samsung is. I am not defending any of the companies that make our electronic toys but none of them are American.
    10-10-2011 10:42 PM
  3. GCMS's Avatar
    Apple has never, ever made a single phone or tablet. The Foxconn iPhone's and Foxconn iPads are made in a labor camp in Asia.

    17 People have committed suicide working in that iPhone labor camp. They live in a compound surrounded by armed guards and barbed wire. They can't leave. They "work" for pennies an hour and often end up owning Foxconn more than they can make.

    It takes about 30 minutes of labor from materials to packaging to make a phone. By making it in a labor camp the labor cost a few cents. If a phone were made in "a true red white and blue American company", it would increase the cost by about $5 for a phone.

    Motorola was the last company who made phones in the US in a plant near Harvard, IL. We would not pay the $5 extra it cost to be made at "a true red white and blue American company" so it closed.

    Foxconn is not "a true red white and blue American company" any more than Samsung is. I am not defending any of the companies that make our electronic toys but none of them are American.
    Co worker's hubby goes to china/japan for work several times a year and he says they are waaayyy more advanced than we are. We just have to face it that we are way behind in tech.
    10-10-2011 10:56 PM
  4. milominderbinde's Avatar
    Battery life on the iPhone can be misleading. When I was with at&t, I would be able to turn the 3G off and just use EDGE. That doubled my battery...
    I cannot find an app that will turn off 3G and switch to 2G except Juice Defender Ultimate.
    10-11-2011 11:04 AM
  5. dwaynewilliams#WN's Avatar
    I think that iynis interesting that all of these Android fans on Sprint are jumping ship as soon as the iPhone comes. I have a feeling that there are going to be a lot of disappointed former Android users. We will certainly find out soon.

    sent from my EPIC TOUCH 4G, GALAXY SII
    10-11-2011 09:28 PM
  6. the gator's Avatar
    [QUOTE=milominderbinder;1331120]Apple has never, ever made a single phone or tablet. The Foxconn iPhone's and Foxconn iPads are made in a labor camp in Asia. Foxcoon also does much of the design engineering.

    17 People have committed suicide working in that iPhone labor camp. They live in a compound surrounded by armed guards and barbed wire. They can't leave. They "work" for pennies an hour and often end up owning Foxconn more than they can make.

    It takes about 30 minutes of labor from materials to packaging to make a phone. By making it in a labor camp the labor cost a few cents. If a phone were made in "a true red white and blue American company", it would increase the cost by about $5 for a phone.

    Motorola was the last company who made phones in the US in a plant near Harvard, IL. We would not pay the $5 extra it cost to be made at "a true red white and blue American company" so it closed.

    Foxconn is not "a true red white and blue American company" any more than Samsung is. I am not defending any of the companies that make our electronic toys but none of them are American.[/QUOquotes TE]


    All above well said, iphone is a good phone if you do not want to do much with it unless you jail break it, I am new to android and love it coming from webos.
    10-11-2011 09:43 PM
  7. efoss's Avatar
    I think that iynis interesting that all of these Android fans on Sprint are jumping ship as soon as the iPhone comes. I have a feeling that there are going to be a lot of disappointed former Android users. We will certainly find out soon.

    sent from my EPIC TOUCH 4G, GALAXY SII
    LAUGH.... OUT......LOUUUUDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!! (short hand: L...O...LLLLLLLLL!!!!)

    Ok. Ok. Wait a beat! I'm having so much fun with this topic! What no one fails to get, is that, I have been SOOOOO hateful towards Apple over the years. I mean, ever since 1997 or 98 whenever Job's resurrected Apple, I was Pro Microsoft, SUPER DUPER EXTRA ANTI-APPLE!!!! And so when the iPhone came out, I did not jump on the Apple bandwagon; they were the enemy in my book! Up until recently, that was the case. What intrigued me about Apple, was Jobs. I study successful people, because in my own success, I like to learn from those who have been there, who have built something from nothing, and who have made it. Steve Jobs, whether I like him, or not, is a respectable businessman, entrepreneur, visioneer, innovator, reinnovator, and so on...... I began to have a ton of respect for the man.

    My animosity toward Apple grew into a curiosity. As I dug deeper into Apple, deeper in to Jobs, Mac, iOs, I began to see something beautiful in it all. Now, for this post here, this is totally the wrong place to be posting this. Android forums have been my home for the last several years, and I have written many articles and threads on different topics, and have even participated in some discussion that led to better things. No, I am not a developer, nor have I ever developed anything, but I have sparked interest in areas where none existed.

    Android. - Android is an amazing step child to IOS. We all know that had it not been for IOS, then we would not have the ******* child Android. However, I think that this ******* child has grown into something superior. I bought an iPad2 yesterday, and so far, I like it, I really do. I am actually sad that I like it, BUT, I still think that Android is superior in many ways. Android is much more complex in my opinion, open, free, and growing; BUT, it lacks something. The way the apps open with ease on IOS, the smoothness of loading, and general stability of IOS impresses me. I can't believe it! I have written hundreds of ANTI APPLE, ANTI i-ANYTHING, and yet, I now find myself liking it.

    Fragmentation.
    I think this is Android's biggest problem. So many devices; so many different hardware configs, and yet iPhone has the same father and mother for both hardware and software. This seems to allow for ZERO confusion, which I believe attracts developers. I think that Android has so much potential to rock Apple's world! I know, as well as you do, that Android is a pain in Apple's side! However; the majority of America doesn't seem to follow along yet, which is partially what led me to try it out - that being the reason that the App quality is so much greater on iOS, because more people, means more developers, not to mention the lack of fragmentation, which leads to easier development.

    I am truly saddened that I am so far liking the Apple better than the robot. I really am. You all have no idea how many posts that I have ratted on, just like this one, and yet this is the reason I come back to you guys. I would be mad at me too. Like a traitor,even. Still, I find solace in the productivity I have gained from my iPad 2. I even called it "iHOMO 5", lol, in a previous post. Sigh......

    I need stability.
    I need the quickness.

    Answer me this, somebody:
    "Why is it, that the iPhone 4, can compete with and even outrun my Samsung Galaxy S II?"

    1. 800 Mhz single core
    2. 512 mb of ram
    vs.
    1. 1.2 Ghz duo core
    2. 1 Gb of RAM

    I have spent over $2,000.00 this year on Android devices! OUT OF POCKET! I'm not eligible for an upgrade until 2013!!! I have went from xoom, to Galaxy Tab 10.1, Evo 4G, Epic Tough 4g, Evo 3d, Epic Touch 4G (Galaxy S II), I have played in depth with the Motorola Atrix, Droid Bionic, Motorola Photon, I mean how many more do I have to mention that I have handled, tested, played with, benchmarked, rooted, etc, and yet none of them can keep up with a meesly iPhone 4? Let's face it, on paper, Android devices have Apple canned, and yet in real world usability, they can't hold a ****! The Galaxy S II is the first phone that I have seen that holds it's own with apple well; However, it doesn't cut the cake like it should!!

    In close, I will come back to my Galaxy S II if the iPhone won't do it! I really, REALLY, want the Android market to reach the full potential it has. Until the Android Market meets the quality of Apple App Store, there will be no iPhone killer. That sucks!

    I never thought this day would come, but alas, here it is!

    I'll keep you posted on the love OR hate of my upcoming new device.....
    10-11-2011 10:22 PM
  8. milominderbinde's Avatar
    ..."Why is it, that the iPhone 4, can compete with and even outrun my Samsung Galaxy S II?"...
    When you make one device, you can optimize code for that exact hardware.

    So you end up with one size display...with one required keyboard...

    But then you may end up stuck with hardware from 2007. You can optimize the CPU all you want to but the 3.5" display is only for people with tiny hands.

    Steve Jobs was amazing but there were two problems. He had very little fingers and he demanded that the iPhone be designed just for him.
    10-11-2011 10:35 PM
  9. efoss's Avatar
    When you make one device, you can optimize code for that exact hardware.

    So you end up with one size display...with one required keyboard...

    But then you may end up stuck with hardware from 2007. You can optimize the CPU all you want to but the 3.5" display is only for people with tiny hands.

    Steve Jobs was amazing but there were two problems. He had very little fingers and he demanded that the iPhone be designed just for him.
    I read an article about the size. They basically said that they put a ton of research into the right size, which would be the most comfortable feel in any hand, big or small, and that you don't have to stretch to find what you're looking for. You can hit anything with 1 thumb. I have been playing with my gf's iPhone 4 for a while, trying it out, and I just don't find the 3.5" to be a prob like I thought I would. However; I LOVE The real estate on my Epic Touch 4G!
    10-11-2011 10:42 PM
  10. efoss's Avatar
    And trust me, my hands ain't tiny!
    10-11-2011 10:43 PM
  11. Jerry Hildenbrand's Avatar
    Let's make it easy for you.

    Click me.

    Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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    10-11-2011 11:09 PM
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