08-31-2012 11:31 AM
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  1. michaeljc70's Avatar
    I don't see that. After I connect to PC and start Kies. There is a start button. No update message. If I start Kies first then connect to the PC, same thing.

    If I go to the Kies address in my browser, it just looks normal with no update notice.


    When you connect your phone to your PC and start Kies, there is an upgrade firmware option (if there is one available, and FH13 is available).
    08-25-2012 01:50 PM
  2. boXerrumble's Avatar
    I think you're running Kies Air app on your phone.

    I'm talking about the Samsung Kies software that you download from the Samsung site.
    08-25-2012 01:54 PM
  3. thenameisnigel's Avatar
    I don't see that. After I connect to PC and start Kies. There is a start button. No update message. If I start Kies first then connect to the PC, same thing.

    If I go to the Kies address in my browser, it just looks normal with no update notice.
    Close everything you're using. Open Samsung Kies (INSTALLED VERSION NOT KIES AIR). Plug your phone in. You will see it connecting. After it connects, a windows will pop up saying a newer firmware is available. Common sense for the rest, my friend.
    Brainerd likes this.
    08-25-2012 02:02 PM
  4. boXerrumble's Avatar
    Close everything you're using. Open Samsung Kies (INSTALLED VERSION NOT KIES AIR). Plug your phone in. You will see it connecting. After it connects, a windows will pop up saying a newer firmware is available. Common sense for the rest.
    Pretty much this ^

    Also, if you're updating through Kies, some people I've talked to have said that they updated from EL29, so apparently if you have one of the other official OTA versions other than FF18, apparently it still works.
    08-25-2012 02:04 PM
  5. michaeljc70's Avatar
    Thanks. Never used the installed version. Downloading now.

    Close everything you're using. Open Samsung Kies (INSTALLED VERSION NOT KIES AIR). Plug your phone in. You will see it connecting. After it connects, a windows will pop up saying a newer firmware is available. Common sense for the rest, my friend.
    08-25-2012 02:07 PM
  6. carole6m's Avatar
    Updated through kies yesterday and love it
    08-25-2012 02:08 PM
  7. michaeljc70's Avatar
    Jeez...takes longer to install Kies than Microsoft Office! Must be poorly written installation.

    I got the update though!

    Thanks. Never used the installed version. Downloading now.
    Brainerd likes this.
    08-25-2012 02:25 PM
  8. Brainerd's Avatar
    Just updated using Kies (not Kies Air)

    Here is the link to the software: Kies Software

    Installing Kies does take a veeeeery loooong time. It is a 2 beer install onto your computer. Once installed I opened the program on my computer, plugged in my SII, via USB, and Kies told me there was an update available. I accepted the update and it was a 1.5 beer download and update process.

    No time to test the phone, or have more beer...as that would not be advisable at this moment. But, this is a much better way than waiting for the OTA. Once they issue the next bug update that fixes FH13, I'll also do it via Kies.
    wildacex187 likes this.
    08-25-2012 03:34 PM
  9. garwynn's Avatar
    That's not necessarily the official OTA FH13 though. For starters, the boot screens vary from the OTA FH13 and the Leaked FH13.

    If you want the OTA, I'd just wait for it to be sent to your phone, or go through Kies (even though it takes FOREVER, for me anyway).

    Plus, the Leaked FH13 gave alot of people, including myself, shutdown issues when in Deep Sleep.

    Just my guess, there are differences between the two.
    Crawj on XDA confirmed match by MD5 checksums. Only change that I did from leak was add root.

    Sent from my SPH-D710
    08-26-2012 01:37 AM
  10. boXerrumble's Avatar
    Crawj on XDA confirmed match by MD5 checksums. Only change that I did from leak was add root.

    Sent from my SPH-D710
    Yeah, again, I don't get why my phone acted differently each time. The thread over on XDA talks about a possible problem with the bootloader on the leak.
    08-26-2012 08:33 AM
  11. garwynn's Avatar
    Rwilco found a problem with his unrooted.. Mine have been OK apparently. You can find them in post #3 of his thread.

    Or wait for FH23 which hopefully will be leaked soon... Then rooted shortly after

    Sent from my SPH-D710
    08-26-2012 11:51 PM
  12. tallbruva's Avatar
    My battery life tanked big time with this update. Had 100% battery when i installed the update. After the reboot it said I had 70%. Charged it back to 100%. I've been doing the same things I normally do and after 2hr and 9 min, I'm down to 16%. I would be at the low 80%...maybe mid 70's at this point.

    I'm draining the battery completely and letting it recharge again to see if that does anything for it. If not, I'm going back to my rooted FF18 build.

    On a positive note, the phone does respond a lot faster than before. It's got the performance I'd expect Jelly Bean to have.
    08-27-2012 07:45 AM
  13. aust1nz's Avatar
    Well, this looks to have been a failure; the phone is permanently awake and has drained 30% of battery after a few hours and a metro trip with e-reading.
    08-27-2012 08:59 AM
  14. aust1nz's Avatar
    Perhaps I spoke too soon. After a factory reset, I'm seeing much better results. (See attached!)
    08-27-2012 02:26 PM
  15. regression's Avatar
    Perhaps I spoke too soon. After a factory reset, I'm seeing much better results. (See attached!)
    When you did the factory reset, did you clear data on your internal memory also? If I remember from the last time I did a reset, you have the option to clear internal memory but it isn't checked by default.
    08-27-2012 02:45 PM
  16. aust1nz's Avatar
    Nope, it didn't give me the option; there was only one factory reset choice.
    08-27-2012 04:10 PM
  17. spartan914's Avatar
    debating if i should try FH13 or not...FF18 seems alright for me...decent enough battery life...during massive usage sure it drains...but during light to normal usage i got 36 hours to a full charge...i also did a factory reset/wiped cache partition before update...updated manually...then factory reset and wiped partition again...first few days and charge cycles were rough...but after the update settled in its been pretty good...just wondering if anyone can confirm any major issues with the FH13 update...any changes good or bad...wondering if i should or not...also...should i choose to update and have issues...is it possible to go back to FF18? im not rooted and running stock 4.0.4 FF18...if i update to FH13...can i do the "manual update" method and update from SD card back to FF18?

    please and thank you!
    -Harry
    08-27-2012 06:31 PM
  18. carole6m's Avatar
    Perhaps I spoke too soon. After a factory reset, I'm seeing much better results. (See attached!)
    It should be some app you were using. Your phone was "awake" the whole time in the first screenshot. Also the second time your screen wasn't on as much.
    08-27-2012 07:45 PM
  19. aust1nz's Avatar
    Yep - I had been using the phone to read for about 30 minute in the first pic, but otherwise had no apps running. This was a fresh update plus Kindle. (I had very few apps installed, as I was running a rooted EL29 after problems with the prior Android update.) Something was messing the battery management up, for sure, but I'm not sure what it was -- during the time that the screen was off, 0 applications were running.
    08-28-2012 06:41 AM
  20. tallbruva's Avatar
    Went back to FF18. There's no way I'm wiping my phone with a factory reset to get performance benefits an "update" is supposed to provide. My battery life was pretty good with FF18. Could it have been better? Sure. But it was in no way a problem (who wouldn't want 6 months on a single charge? )

    But the whole concept of "updating" implies keeping what I have and getting the new stuff working as it should. My "update" to ICS was smooth. This was not. I'll wait for the next update to see if it's worth it.
    08-28-2012 07:31 AM
  21. DirkBelig's Avatar
    I was surprised to see my phone pop an "update is ready to install" message on the drive in this morning. Battery life with FF18 has been wildly inconsistent and I've been unable to pin down exactly what's killing it on the bad days. I've had the stupid wi-fi sleep bug where it frequently doesn't switch back to wi-fi, but leaving it on all the time kills the battery at home.

    I've used sfhub's rooted ODIN One-Clicks for EL29 and FF18 (used No_Data for GB; had to nuke it all with ICS, dammit!) but I'm not seeing anything for this OTA at xda. People there seem to be saying that the leaked version IS different from the OTA, so I want to make sure I've got the latest and greatest rooted OTA. Anyone got the proper link? Thanks.
    08-28-2012 08:47 AM
  22. androidpirate's Avatar
    the update seemed to have fixed some stuff on my phone, for one, the softkeys don't take forever to become responsive to touch after turning on the screen now. also the default web browser seems less sluggish too. overall the phone feels snappier.

    the downside though is the 3g/4g signal strength has worsened. where as before at home i used to get a 3g signal, now i don't. it's basically like signal loss error with the circle w/ slash.
    at work, there's no 3g signal either or comes in intermittently and quite weak. 4g is spotty as well. speeds seem to have worsened.

    sigh....
    08-28-2012 10:47 PM
  23. scout12345's Avatar
    Currently, I am running the rooted FF18 from XDA. When I installed it, I probably should have wiped the data, but instead chose the preserve data option. The phone is working so so, but having some of the issues with battery drainage and such. In light of this bit of info, I have a few questions swirling in my head and just wanting to know if I can get some quick yes or no's to the following:

    1. I can't use the factory reset on the phone because it is rooted, correct?
    2. If I use the autoroot package to remove root, can I then do a factory reset?
    3. Will I get the OTA FF13 if I have the FF18 rooted currently installed?
    4. Can I install the OTA FF13 or the One-click rooted (wipe data version) FF13 right on top of the current rooted FF18, or do I need to do something to clear the phone first?

    PS. I would like to check out the FF13 either OTA or download, but would also like to factory reset this time, and either right away or eventually have root.

    Thanks!
    08-29-2012 12:44 PM
  24. dasesq's Avatar
    Overnight, 9 hours on fh13 with fh23 modem (don't like the modem) and only 2% battery loss.
    08-31-2012 11:31 AM
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