Google's POV on Samsung's Case?

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Am I the only person who found it to be very weird that Google was quick to say that Samsung was all to blame in the whole copying situation?
 

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Am I the only person who found it to be very weird that Google was quick to say that Samsung was all to blame in the whole copying situation?

It wasn't weird to me.

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It wasn't weird to me.

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I mean it was to me, because the fact is whether Google likes it or not, Android, and everything surrounding Android is their responsibility. Licensing is free, everything is free about it. That's the disadvantage of open-source. That's like me letting people use a proxy on my site to access the web. Everything that people do in the proxy is MY responsibilty. Same for Android. Android is Google's responsibility as long as it's open-sourced. If it was closed-sourced and everyone had to pay to license it , now THAT'S a different story.
 

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I mean it was to me, because the fact is whether Google likes it or not, Android, and everything surrounding Android is their responsibility. Licensing is free, everything is free about it. That's the disadvantage of open-source. That's like me letting people use a proxy on my site to access the web. Everything that people do in the proxy is MY responsibilty. Same for Android. Android is Google's responsibility as long as it's open-sourced. If it was closed-sourced and everyone had to pay to license it , now THAT'S a different story.

Android wasn't on trial here.

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Android wasn't on trial here.

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Technically it was. As stated, one of the topics covered in the suit was S-Voice. That's a component of Android, not a core component, BUT it's part of Android because Google allows manufacturers to change the overall feel of the operating system.
 
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Technically it was. As stated, one of the topics covered in the suit was S-Voice. That's a component of Android, not a core component, BUT it's part of Android because Google allows manufacturers to change the overall feel of the operating system.

S-voice wasn't a part of this trial.

Android was not a part of this because almost all of the accused infringement (all but 1 I believe) was brought about by samsungs implementation of touch wiz. Google is in no way responsible for what a manufacturer does in their skin.

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I mean it was to me, because the fact is whether Google likes it or not, Android, and everything surrounding Android is their responsibility. Licensing is free, everything is free about it. That's the disadvantage of open-source. That's like me letting people use a proxy on my site to access the web. Everything that people do in the proxy is MY responsibilty. Same for Android. Android is Google's responsibility as long as it's open-sourced. If it was closed-sourced and everyone had to pay to license it , now THAT'S a different story.

Not remotely. It is specifically integrated into the license that android is offered under that google is not legally or financially responsible if manufacturers are sued, especially so if they're sued over features that are part of a skin.

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Technically it was. As stated, one of the topics covered in the suit was S-Voice. That's a component of Android, not a core component, BUT it's part of Android because Google allows manufacturers to change the overall feel of the operating system.

Whoa. S-Voice was NOT a part of this recent trial. Come on now.

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What does that have to do with anything? That article discusses approximately nothing thats being discussed in this thread. Not only that, the author badly misunderstood the lawsuit in question; it had nothing to do with voice search, and everything to do with unified search results.

I'll reiterate again: the android license specifically protects Google from liability if one of its manufacturing partners is sued.

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Read the first paragraph on the page or here:


While the trial between Apple (AAPL) and Samsung (005930) now wrapping up in San Jose, California has gotten the most attention over the past few weeks, it’s hardly the only legal battle these two behemoths are fighting. In another scuffle taking place with the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit in Washington, Samsung is defending its Galaxy Nexus smartphone against allegations that it copies Apple’s Siri voice assistant feature. There are plenty of interesting points and counterpoints emerging as the two companies exchange blows, but one in particular helps reinforce the stark contrast between perceptions of Google’s (GOOG) mobile OS on the Internet, and the reality of Android.


I bolded it , italic, underlined, and highlighter it.
 

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Read the first paragraph on the page or here:


While the trial between Apple (AAPL) and Samsung (005930) now wrapping up in San Jose, California has gotten the most attention over the past few weeks, it?s hardly the only legal battle these two behemoths are fighting. In another scuffle taking place with the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit in Washington, Samsung is defending its Galaxy Nexus smartphone against allegations that it copies Apple?s Siri voice assistant feature. There are plenty of interesting points and counterpoints emerging as the two companies exchange blows, but one in particular helps reinforce the stark contrast between perceptions of Google?s (GOOG) mobile OS on the Internet, and the reality of Android.


I bolded it , italic, underlined, and highlighter it.


http://m.engadget.com/2012/06/29/apple-lands-preliminary-ban-against-samsung-galaxy-nexus/

As patent lawsuit guru Florian Mueller found, the clincher for the ban was the patent on unified search that's linked to Siri.


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Read the first paragraph on the page or here:


While the trial between Apple (AAPL) and Samsung (005930) now wrapping up in San Jose, California has gotten the most attention over the past few weeks, it?s hardly the only legal battle these two behemoths are fighting. In another scuffle taking place with the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit in Washington, Samsung is defending its Galaxy Nexus smartphone against allegations that it copies Apple?s Siri voice assistant feature. There are plenty of interesting points and counterpoints emerging as the two companies exchange blows, but one in particular helps reinforce the stark contrast between perceptions of Google?s (GOOG) mobile OS on the Internet, and the reality of Android.


I bolded it , italic, underlined, and highlighter it.
Again, the author of that article badly misinterpreted what the lawsuit was about. (Or, given BGRs credibility, they were just to lazy to actually find out)

That lawsuit has zero to do with voice search and everything to do with unified search results.

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Again, the author of that article badly misinterpreted what the lawsuit was about. (Or, given BGRs credibility, they were just to lazy to actually find out)

That lawsuit has zero to do with voice search and everything to do with unified search results.

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Oh, okay. I didn't know that. Well , I'm done.