12-19-2012 11:43 AM
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  1. Soundtrack to Chaos's Avatar
    Rooted my first Android device today but didn't rom it because I'm just getting into this stuff, but I have a quick question, as a rooted non rommed user, are ota's safe?

    Like will I be a able to get jelly bean and everything will work fine or will I have to unroot before any ota updates?
    On my Samsung galaxy s3 running android 4.0

    Because unlike ios, i keep my apps in app drawers, and not in infinite cluttered homescreens
    10-07-2012 09:38 PM
  2. Cyber Warrior's Avatar
    Normally you don't want to accept an OTA while rooted. Most likely if you do, you will just lose root but if you've messed with system files like freezing/deleting bloat (pre-installed apps) or any other system file including an unlocked bootloader... you run into the chance of soft bricking the phone.

    So you can either unroot/return the phone to stock... then accept the OTA and re-root the phone afterwards (given the OTA doesn't mess with the root procedure)...

    ...Or usually developers will release a version of the OTA that's safe to flash to a rooted phone. (your best bet)
    10-07-2012 11:37 PM
  3. Soundtrack to Chaos's Avatar
    Thanks for the response, I only rooted, i didnt unlock the bootloader and have 0 idea what that is anyway

    I'm only concerned about this for the upcoming jelly bean update that we will eventually get so I guess I'll deal with this when the update comes out

    And I haven't frozen any apps or anything

    So how does this unroot thing work anyway? Is it easy?

    To root u just added a file to my phone, plugged it into my computer, ran it, popped out the battery etc

    So is unrooting a simular process?

    On my Samsung galaxy s3 running android 4.0

    Because unlike ios, i keep my apps in app drawers, and not in infinite cluttered homescreens
    10-07-2012 11:45 PM
  4. Cyber Warrior's Avatar
    -Yes unrooting is the same procedure.. you just take the stock ROM image and flash it back to the phone in the ODIN program.
    -You'll need the bootloader unlocked if you're looking to flash/install custom ROMs.
    -You can freeze the OTA update file so you're not caught unexpectedly by the update being pushed automatically to the phone: (this is for Verizon, not 100% sure if its the same file name for Sprint)
    http://forums.androidcentral.com/ver...es-imm76d.html
    10-08-2012 12:22 AM
  5. Soundtrack to Chaos's Avatar
    -Yes unrooting is the same procedure.. you just take the stock ROM image and flash it back to the phone in the ODIN program.
    -You'll need the bootloader unlocked if you're looking to flash/install custom ROMs.
    -You can freeze the OTA update file so you're not caught unexpectedly by the update being pushed automatically to the phone: (this is for Verizon, not 100% sure if its the same file name for Sprint)
    http://forums.androidcentral.com/ver...es-imm76d.html
    Oh ok, thanks for all the info, I guess I'll either start looking at roms this week

    On my Samsung galaxy s3 running android 4.0

    Because unlike ios, i keep my apps in app drawers, and not in infinite cluttered homescreens
    10-08-2012 07:30 AM
  6. Skunkape60's Avatar
    The Sprint version gs3 doesn't have a locked boot loader. All you need to do to flash a custom rom is flash custom recovery in Odin and superuser in recovery. Everything is spot on. Once rooted the easiest way to update is flashing an updated rom from one of the great developers.

    However going back to stock has been made easier. The Sprint guys can now flash a single file IN RECOVERY that removes root, busy box and installs stock recovery and stock rom. Doesn't get much easier than that.

    To stop ota notifications on the sprint gs3, the best way is to accept the ota. It will boot to custom recovery and fail. Then reboot the phone and the ota notification doesn't come back. You won't lose root not will you brick the phone. T

    The Sprint and AT&T versions aren't locked down like Verizon and therefore much easier to deal with. Many of the things that can kill a Verizon gs3 has no effect on the gs3's from Sprint and AT&T.
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    10-08-2012 07:45 AM
  7. Soundtrack to Chaos's Avatar
    The Sprint version gs3 doesn't have a locked boot loader. All you need to do to flash a custom rom is flash custom recovery in Odin and superuser in recovery. Everything is spot on. Once rooted the easiest way to update is flashing an updated rom from one of the great developers.

    However going back to stock has been made easier. The Sprint guys can now flash a single file IN RECOVERY that removes root, busy box and installs stock recovery and stock rom. Doesn't get much easier than that.
    Thanks

    In can you tell me in your opinion what is so special about roms?

    Like I always hear they are like launchers but better, but can you like give me a insight into what big features they have and maybe your top 5 roms for this phone please? Thanks so much in advance

    On my Samsung galaxy s3 running android 4.0

    Because unlike ios, i keep my apps in app drawers, and not in infinite cluttered homescreens
    10-08-2012 07:56 AM
  8. Skunkape60's Avatar
    Thanks

    In can you tell me in your opinion what is so special about roms?

    Like I always hear they are like launchers but better, but can you like give me a insight into what big features they have and maybe your top 5 roms for this phone please? Thanks so much in advance

    On my Samsung galaxy s3 running android 4.0

    Because unlike ios, i keep my apps in app drawers, and not in infinite cluttered homescreens
    ROM's are not really like launchers. The rom is your operating system and resides on the phones "read only memory" which is why it's called a ROM. The ROM is you is your operating system and user interface.

    The kernel is what connects your hardware to your rom kind of like the device manager on your Windows machine.

    There is no "best" rom for your phone. It is pointless. If you ask 10 different people what their favorite rom is, you are likely to get 10 different answers.
    10-08-2012 08:15 AM
  9. Skunkape60's Avatar
    You can look here for some pros and cons....

    http://forums.androidcentral.com/sho...d.php?t=203266
    10-08-2012 08:38 AM
  10. Skunkape60's Avatar
    My favorite rooms are:

    ICS ROM's:
    AnaKonda
    Wicked Sensations

    Jellybean ROM's:
    JellyBomb
    10-08-2012 08:42 AM
  11. Soundtrack to Chaos's Avatar
    My favorite rooms are:

    ICS ROM's:
    AnaKonda
    Wicked Sensations

    Jellybean ROM's:
    JellyBomb
    Thanks, I'll be sure to check some of these out

    On my Samsung galaxy s3 running android 4.0

    Because unlike ios, i keep my apps in app drawers, and not in infinite cluttered homescreens
    10-08-2012 09:15 AM
  12. Soundtrack to Chaos's Avatar
    Oh, btw will you lose Samsung specific software like smart stay and smart alert after romming?

    On my Samsung galaxy s3 running android 4.0

    Because unlike ios, i keep my apps in app drawers, and not in infinite cluttered homescreens
    10-08-2012 10:17 AM
  13. Skunkape60's Avatar
    Oh, btw will you lose Samsung specific software like smart stay and smart alert after romming?

    On my Samsung galaxy s3 running android 4.0

    Because unlike ios, i keep my apps in app drawers, and not in infinite cluttered homescreens
    The ROM's I've listed are touch wiz based and smart stay is still included and much of the software.

    Jellybomb is the most stripped down and AnaKonda is the least. Wicked Sensations is sort of in the middle. But I believe smart stay is in all of them.
    10-08-2012 12:13 PM
  14. Soundtrack to Chaos's Avatar
    How about cyanogen mod 10? I keep hearing about that one

    On my Samsung galaxy s3 running android 4.0

    Because unlike ios, i keep my apps in app drawers, and not in infinite cluttered homescreens
    10-08-2012 01:03 PM
  15. Soundtrack to Chaos's Avatar
    Just downloaded rom manager and flashed that thing at the top, i think it's called clockwork mod recovery or something

    So all I have to do now is download,backup, wipe and then run the rom I guess?

    On my Samsung galaxy s3 running android 4.0

    Because unlike ios, i keep my apps in app drawers, and not in infinite cluttered homescreens
    10-08-2012 03:11 PM
  16. Skunkape60's Avatar
    Just downloaded rom manager and flashed that thing at the top, i think it's called clockwork mod recovery or something

    So all I have to do now is download,backup, wipe and then run the rom I guess?

    On my Samsung galaxy s3 running android 4.0

    Because unlike ios, i keep my apps in app drawers, and not in infinite cluttered homescreens
    Please do not use rom manager if you can help it. It has been known to mess up.
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    10-08-2012 03:29 PM
  17. Cyber Warrior's Avatar
    This is a guide I did for the GNex but the info is pretty much the same for all devices (exception being the use of GApps/Google Apps)
    http://forums.androidcentral.com/ver...axy-nexus.html
    10-08-2012 03:30 PM
  18. Soundtrack to Chaos's Avatar
    Please do not use rom manager if you can help it. It has been known to mess up.
    I'm not suprised, when I was downloading the flash thingy it stopped responding so I closed it and did it again and it worked

    But it seems like the easiest fastest way to rom I guess, idk

    I don't intend on download roms every day, like I see cyanogen has updates every day and I don't see a need to constantly update unless its a huge upgrade

    I sort of feel safer doing it the rom manager way than the usb computer way, but I'll see, still looking up videos and stuff on these roms

    On my Samsung galaxy s3 running android 4.0

    Because unlike ios, i keep my apps in app drawers, and not in infinite cluttered homescreens
    10-08-2012 03:39 PM
  19. Cyber Warrior's Avatar
    You can still use ROM Manager.. to boot into CWM Recovery.. Just dont download ROMs or mods through ROM Manager. Download the ROMs straight to your phone from the developers threads (Rootzwiki, XDA Developers).
    10-08-2012 03:45 PM
  20. Soundtrack to Chaos's Avatar
    You can still use ROM Manager.. to boot into CWM Recovery.. Just dont download ROMs or mods through ROM Manager. Download the ROMs straight to your phone from the developers threads (Rootzwiki, XDA Developers).
    Ooh ok, thx

    I just backed up my stock rom and then it booted back up and now I see that I only have like 3.50 gb left when the other day I had 8gb and the backup said it only took 23mb in my files

    What the heck took up 5gb?

    On my Samsung galaxy s3 running android 4.0

    Because unlike ios, i keep my apps in app drawers, and not in infinite cluttered homescreens
    10-08-2012 04:30 PM
  21. Cyber Warrior's Avatar
    Hmm. The backup should be more then 23MB... Im using CleanROM which is a stock based ROM and its about 700-800mb.. close to a gig.. and thats just the ROM itself. A nandroid backup is backing up everything on the phone including apps + data. Depending how much is stored on your phone.. 2-3gb sounds about right.
    You can always move Nandroid backups to your computer to free up space. I recommend keeping at least one backup stored on the phone though in case of an emergency.
    10-08-2012 05:00 PM
  22. Soundtrack to Chaos's Avatar
    This is supposed to be the file

    On my Samsung galaxy s3 running android 4.0

    Because unlike ios, i keep my apps in app drawers, and not in infinite cluttered homescreens
    Attached Thumbnails Are ota's safe after root?-uploadfromtaptalk1349734089745.jpg  
    10-08-2012 05:08 PM
  23. Soundtrack to Chaos's Avatar
    I was able to free up a few mbs by un installing some useless apps

    But still cannot find it

    On my Samsung galaxy s3 running android 4.0

    Because unlike ios, i keep my apps in app drawers, and not in infinite cluttered homescreens
    Attached Thumbnails Are ota's safe after root?-uploadfromtaptalk1349734383707.jpg  
    10-08-2012 05:14 PM
  24. Cyber Warrior's Avatar
    I was able to free up a few mbs by un installing some useless apps

    But still cannot find it

    On my Samsung galaxy s3 running android 4.0

    Because unlike ios, i keep my apps in app drawers, and not in infinite cluttered homescreens
    Yea its showing your system ROM at 1.5gb.. Something is wrong with that backup you made.
    Here is my stock ROM backup:
    Are ota's safe after root?-uploadfromtaptalk1349734914261.jpg

    What cant you find.. the sdm file? It might be different for Sprint.. Im on Verizon.
    10-08-2012 05:23 PM
  25. Soundtrack to Chaos's Avatar
    Was just playing with widget locker home helper when I noticed some weird thing at the bottom

    Wth is that zzz thing?

    Also I wonder if the 5gb had something to do with me backing up apex and widget locker

    But I cannot find them on my card either...

    On my Samsung galaxy s3 running android 4.0

    Because unlike ios, i keep my apps in app drawers, and not in infinite cluttered homescreens
    Attached Thumbnails Are ota's safe after root?-uploadfromtaptalk1349735015112.jpg  
    10-08-2012 05:24 PM
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