12-22-2011 04:58 PM
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  1. N9tShadow's Avatar
    I am a complete noob when it comes to Android, Finally got me a Android phone the Nexus S 4g (it was free).

    My question is what is the point of root and is it worth it or not, what can root devices do..

    The only thing I am interested in the Tether (hotspot) but from what i read 4g can't be Tether unless you pay for the Tethering..... and the fact that 4G isn't that strong in my home.

    The only reason I would use the Tether would be to play on my ps3 online when my home wireless goes out.
    12-09-2011 06:32 PM
  2. Paul627g's Avatar
    I am a complete noob when it comes to Android, Finally got me a Android phone the Nexus S 4g (it was free).

    My question is what is the point of root and is it worth it or not, what can root devices do..

    The only thing I am interested in the Tether (hotspot) but from what i read 4g can't be Tether unless you pay for the Tethering..... and the fact that 4G isn't that strong in my home.

    The only reason I would use the Tether would be to play on my ps3 online when my home wireless goes out.
    There is quite alot of benefits to rooting beyond tethering. Many don't really understand until they actually try it. I have had members stand their ground firm for months and months about staying stock and no need to root. Once they did and they discovered custom ROMs and what they did and allow you to do with your device as far as customizing, better battery life due to custom kernels to control processor speeds and power management and much more they have been hooked and can't believe they didn't try sooner.

    As far as tethering for 3g only, this is true. I also really doubt at 3g speeds it will be enough to provide access to play your PS3 online. Normally most online gaming is at least a minimum of around .5-.75 meg upload speeds and downloads around at least a meg. People have been able to connect at lower speeds but in multiplayer games where there is a host in the game and if you get host at those speeds makes everyone else suffer.
    12-09-2011 08:01 PM
  3. ZiggSeVO's Avatar
    There is quite alot of benefits to rooting beyond tethering. Many don't really understand until they actually try it. I have had members stand their ground firm for months and months about staying stock and no need to root. Once they did and they discovered custom ROMs and what they did and allow you to do with your device as far as customizing, better battery life due to custom kernels to control processor speeds and power management and much more they have been hooked and can't believe they didn't try sooner.

    As far as tethering for 3g only, this is true. I also really doubt at 3g speeds it will be enough to provide access to play your PS3 online. Normally most online gaming is at least a minimum of around .5-.75 meg upload speeds and downloads around at least a meg. People have been able to connect at lower speeds but in multiplayer games where there is a host in the game and if you get host at those speeds makes everyone else suffer.
    Well said.
    Youtube search for xbox live phone tether

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    12-09-2011 08:41 PM
  4. N9tShadow's Avatar
    There is quite alot of benefits to rooting beyond tethering. Many don't really understand until they actually try it. I have had members stand their ground firm for months and months about staying stock and no need to root. Once they did and they discovered custom ROMs and what they did and allow you to do with your device as far as customizing, better battery life due to custom kernels to control processor speeds and power management and much more they have been hooked and can't believe they didn't try sooner.

    As far as tethering for 3g only, this is true. I also really doubt at 3g speeds it will be enough to provide access to play your PS3 online. Normally most online gaming is at least a minimum of around .5-.75 meg upload speeds and downloads around at least a meg. People have been able to connect at lower speeds but in multiplayer games where there is a host in the game and if you get host at those speeds makes everyone else suffer.
    So then what can I do what are some examples of custom ROMs and stuff I can do with rooting my device....

    Another thing can I go back to stock it I want to. or if my phone breaks for some reason?
    12-09-2011 08:52 PM
  5. Paul627g's Avatar
    So then what can I do what are some examples of custom ROMs and stuff I can do with rooting my device....
    Along with tethering, you have more options to run full themes on the device which will change the entire look of your OS. More than just wallpaper and some 3rd party launcher tricks too.... Custom kernels can offer much more too besides better battery and speed control from under clocking to overclocking. Another benefit especially to the Nexus line seeing how we don't have LED notifications with custom kernels offering support for BLN (Backlight notification) whenever you get a notification like incoming phone, text, email your bottom row of lights will light up to let you know you have incoming notes. There is much more available too, actually to much to list here... These are just the tip of the iceberg.

    Another thing can I go back to stock it I want to. or if my phone breaks for some reason?
    Yes you can return to stock quite easily if needed for servicing or say your just sick of it all and want to return to stock.
    12-09-2011 11:15 PM
  6. iBowToAndroid's Avatar
    I am a complete noob when it comes to Android, Finally got me a Android phone the Nexus S 4g (it was free).

    My question is what is the point of root and is it worth it or not, what can root devices do..

    The only thing I am interested in the Tether (hotspot) but from what i read 4g can't be Tether unless you pay for the Tethering..... and the fact that 4G isn't that strong in my home.

    The only reason I would use the Tether would be to play on my ps3 online when my home wireless goes out.
    1. Root devices can do ANYTHING. Trust me, you can't even imagine all the possibilities. Tethering is just the tip of the iceberg.

    2. Yes you can tether on 4G with a 3rd party app. The default built-in hotspot service will only do 3G (although there is even a 4G workaround for that) but I've had no problems tethering on 4G with a 3rd party app - and yes, you will need 4G if you're doing gaming.
    12-09-2011 11:29 PM
  7. N9tShadow's Avatar
    I decided to root my phone for the tethering (using wireless tethering for root users)

    Will that app support 4g tethering, or is there a better one.?

    I do want to learn about costume ROMs and Kernels for the future since I got my phone during Black Friday its still new and I'm not sick of how it looks, but I'm sure I will be lol.
    12-10-2011 03:25 AM
  8. BlackHawkA4's Avatar
    Ice cream sandwich. Do i need to say more?
    12-10-2011 03:29 AM
  9. N9tShadow's Avatar
    Ice cream sandwich. Do i need to say more?
    You could.

    Is there any ROMs or Kernels that will boost my "antena" (Want to get better 4g signal inside my house)
    12-10-2011 01:16 PM
  10. BlackHawkA4's Avatar
    Sick of how it looks. Rediculous.

    Ice cream sandwich.... the new android os... right under your thread at the time being.

    Or if you wanna stick with gingerbread cm7 is excellent.

    However. Being that you said you think its ugly you may want to look into miui.
    12-10-2011 01:36 PM
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    12-10-2011 01:38 PM
  12. N9tShadow's Avatar
    Thanks I'll look at the MIUI ROMs.

    For the ICS I rather wait until something more stable, or even the official one comes out.


    How do I install the ROM?
    12-10-2011 02:42 PM
  13. BlackHawkA4's Avatar
    Thanks I'll look at the MIUI ROMs.

    For the ICS I rather wait until something more stable, or even the official one comes out.


    How do I install the ROM?
    V26 of asop is very stable and smooth.i have no problems with it except for gps this build.

    I think miui is more for what your looking for. Will be like a different phone.

    If your rooted you need to install clockworkmod bootloader. Then, you would make a back up. Wipe everything and install the rom. If, you did one click root your probably better off downloading rom manager from the market. It will install the bootloader and roms for you (Remember to back up first). However, I don't like this method; and, even if you do - do it this way I recommend learning the full way. Otherwise if something gets messed up you'll be lost and back here crying for help. (<- Not an insult).

    If you need extra help you can PM me and I'll walk you through it. It's very easy. Otherwise: http://forums.androidcentral.com/spr...-recovery.html.

    If you already have clockwork mod just simple download the rom you want. Put it on your "sdcard". Then, boot into clockwork mod. Make a back up. Wipe data, cache, and dalvik. Choose to select install zip and chose your rom you've put on your phone.

    (Optional task would be getting a app backup from the market that your like and backing up your apps. I never do this though I do it the long way).
    12-10-2011 03:36 PM
  14. N9tShadow's Avatar
    V26 of asop is very stable and smooth.i have no problems with it except for gps this build.

    I think miui is more for what your looking for. Will be like a different phone.

    If your rooted you need to install clockworkmod bootloader. Then, you would make a back up. Wipe everything and install the rom. If, you did one click root your probably better off downloading rom manager from the market. It will install the bootloader and roms for you (Remember to back up first). However, I don't like this method; and, even if you do - do it this way I recommend learning the full way. Otherwise if something gets messed up you'll be lost and back here crying for help. (<- Not an insult).

    If you need extra help you can PM me and I'll walk you through it. It's very easy. Otherwise: http://forums.androidcentral.com/spr...-recovery.html.

    If you already have clockwork mod just simple download the rom you want. Put it on your "sdcard". Then, boot into clockwork mod. Make a back up. Wipe data, cache, and dalvik. Choose to select install zip and chose your rom you've put on your phone.

    (Optional task would be getting a app backup from the market that your like and backing up your apps. I never do this though I do it the long way).
    I followed this video I did do the Clockwork Mod way, Only reason I did the one click root was because I don't how to do it the long way. How do I do a back up?
    12-10-2011 04:26 PM
  15. BlackHawkA4's Avatar
    Alright. Do a back up first. When you got it come back when youve figured it out.

    Power off the phone. Hold power and volume up till it turns on and boots clock work. Go to back up and restore. Hit backup. Let it do its thing.

    Save this back up. Keep it forever. Its your original rom from your phone. Your personal grounf zero. Keep it backed up else where as well.
    12-10-2011 06:05 PM
  16. N9tShadow's Avatar
    I used ROMmanager to back up my current ROM I'm looking at what ROM to get NIUI looks cool for changing the look of the phone I still don't know what Cyanogen does.
    12-10-2011 06:35 PM
  17. BlackHawkA4's Avatar
    Cm7 doesn't do much. Just adds some really nice features and theme choose which is just colors. I prefer it; but, I think you might like MIUI as you don't really like the way Vanilla android looks, so it seems.

    You can try them both out and see what you like. As long as you got your backup now. What you wanna do is wipe data/cache/and dalvik. Then, install your rom. If you don't like it repeast the wipe process and do it again. If anything goes wrong repeat the wipe process and restore the backup.
    12-10-2011 07:39 PM
  18. N9tShadow's Avatar
    I never said a didn't like the way it looks, lol what I really want is the tethering of 4g, as I don't know what can/can't be done with custome ROMs n Kernels idk what else I want and I won't know till I get there lol
    12-10-2011 07:59 PM
  19. BlackHawkA4's Avatar
    I never said a didn't like the way it looks, lol what I really want is the tethering of 4g, as I don't know what can/can't be done with custome ROMs n Kernels idk what else I want and I won't know till I get there lol
    Lol try cm7 first the. Gives it that edge. Then if you want something that looks nothing like android try miui.
    12-10-2011 08:10 PM
  20. N9tShadow's Avatar
    looking at the MIUI web site, the stuff they show one can do looks awesome.

    Edit 1:Going to try CM first like you said, I'll post when im done, to let you guys know if everything went fine or not.

    Edit 2:Installed CM 7.1.0 went well I guess, Doesn't feel different. Kinda bumbed that the one thing I wanted from this mod doesn't really work but that's ok.
    12-10-2011 08:32 PM
  21. Critical's Avatar
    Note: I am inexperienced and lack knowledge on this rooting thing.

    I rooted specifically because Sprint put a 5gb limit on wifi tethering.

    I originally used CM7 with an app called Wifi Tether - it seems to come and go from the Android Market, but Google "Wifi Tether" and it is the first result. This combination was unstable when I was tethering, though.

    So I switched to PoolParty 1.3 and Matr1x - based on Paul's endorsement. This combination seems more stable and overall less annoying to try to use the tether app.
    12-11-2011 12:25 AM
  22. BlackHawkA4's Avatar
    looking at the MIUI web site, the stuff they show one can do looks awesome.

    Edit 1:Going to try CM first like you said, I'll post when im done, to let you guys know if everything went fine or not.

    Edit 2:Installed CM 7.1.0 went well I guess, Doesn't feel different. Kinda bumbed that the one thing I wanted from this mod doesn't really work but that's ok.
    What is it that doesn't work? The difference is in the subtle additions that really were missing from Android in the first place. A lot of those things that were missing seem to be, for the most part, added into ICS now. Which is good. Give them more time to work on things that are better .
    12-11-2011 01:07 AM
  23. N9tShadow's Avatar
    the camera touch focus doesn't seem to be working, and that's one of the reasons why I went with cm
    12-11-2011 01:35 AM
  24. N9tShadow's Avatar
    I do like that I can add more home pages and themes, and the app catalog and lck screen (haven't figured out if I cab put more options on the lock screen besides unlock and phone call)
    12-11-2011 01:37 AM
  25. N9tShadow's Avatar
    I also noticed that the signal in my house isn't as strong as before. example, before I could have 3-4 bars in my house now I'm at 1-2.

    the wimax widget thingy in the status bar makes the status bar force close.
    12-11-2011 09:28 AM
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