View Poll Results: Keep EVO 3D or Switch to Nexus S

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  • Keep EVO

    11 15.28%
  • Switch to Nexus

    61 84.72%
08-11-2011 05:39 PM
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  1. crzycrkr's Avatar
    If there is an update to fix something, on any phone, it has to be common enough to warrant the time and money to for them to spend on the update.
    I understand that. That is kinda my point. There are issues with some batches of every device. There are also plenty out there with no issues. They push updates for everything. The 3d has had one or two already I believe with more on the way.

    Sent from my Nexus S 4G using Tapatalk
    07-12-2011 02:41 PM
  2. Citizen Coyote's Avatar
    Oh, there is an update coming, but the problem with reception occurs on many devices. There are a few threads in the 3d forums complaining about the same problem. If you just look at the forums, then it seems pretty widespread on that device too. A bunch of the posts in the thread in the NS4G section are from people saying they have no problem. The fact of the matter is there are variables in hardware. Some have problems, some don't. The issue is not near as widespread as forums lead you to believe.

    Sent from my Nexus S 4G using Tapatalk
    The problems are certainly not universal. For every person complaining about signal strength on the NS4G, you'll find someone saying they have no problems at all. However, the problem is certainly recognized enough that a fix is in the works, and numerous reviews of the phone on release noted the odd discrepancy between the connection on their review unit NS4G versus whatever Sprint phone they had laying around (AC's own review, for example).

    On a personal note, I've noticed that the NS4G demo phone at my local favorite Sprint store displays only one bar of signal (when every other phone is at full bars) and lesser 4G signal strength than the Evo, 3vo, and Epic right next to it. I am sorely tempted to switch to the NS4G, but until I see evidence that these problems are at least partially relieved (which hopefully will happen soon!) I'll stick with my Evo.
    07-12-2011 02:52 PM
  3. reconboy's Avatar
    I will stick with the NS4G even though it has its hiccups and quirks. Wife has the Evo 3D and while the Eye Candy looks nice and it is fairly fast its till a major resource hog.
    07-12-2011 02:53 PM
  4. wirelessness#AC's Avatar
    I would also like to know this. I think it depends on the 3D getting Ice Cream Sandwich.

    I don't know much about android (Don't have an android phone, yet :P.) but from what I've read, it's not multithreaded right now.

    If this is true, the 3D will be amazing with Ice Cream Sandwich, because it's supposed to support multithreading, right?
    Android absolutely supports multithreading. This is a basic function of the Linux foundation Android is built on. That said, most Aps are single threaded but some spawn additional threads as needed. Anytime all of the available threads are not in use the processor core(s) can run at lower speeds/voltage thus saving power.

    Android also supports Dual-Core processors as part of the Linux base functionality as well by using SMP or Symmetric Multiprocessing. So current versions of Android can take advantage of the additional cores RIGHT NOW.

    That said, ICS is supposed to increase these capabilities not enable them. Exactly what will be added is not known by most people outside of Google. Most likely it will add improved Garbage Collection which will increase Memory performance.
    07-12-2011 03:15 PM
  5. 7starmarc's Avatar
    Oh, there is an update coming, but the problem with reception occurs on many devices. There are a few threads in the 3d forums complaining about the same problem. If you just look at the forums, then it seems pretty widespread on that device too. A bunch of the posts in the thread in the NS4G section are from people saying they have no problem. The fact of the matter is there are variables in hardware. Some have problems, some don't. The issue is not near as widespread as forums lead you to believe.

    Sent from my Nexus S 4G using Tapatalk
    There's no doubt that there are some issues with the 3D as well. My concern is trading one set of (known) issues on my current phone for another set of unknown issues on a different phone. Particularly if one company (HTC) has a better track record for pushing fixes than another (Samsung). As you alluded to, HTC has had two immediate fixes for acknowledged issues within the first week of launch, and is looking at another update in late August/September (hopefully to address lockdown on phone as well as driver issues). That's a lot better (I believe) than Samsung's usual SOP on updates/fixes and better than their track record specifically on the NS4G.

    I guess it boils down to trust. I don't know how far to trust HTC on the whole unlock issue (I'm sure they'll do something, but how it comes about is another issue). I don't know how far I trust Samsung on their hardware and their commitment to timely fixes and updates to those areas not controlled by Google.
    07-12-2011 05:49 PM
  6. Duvi's Avatar
    Maybe you should get a second battery and a battery charger if you don't want to wait?
    i have an endless amount of batteries, chargers and devices, so i know those can't be the issue.

    i've asked this before and was told that it was common... on this board.
    07-12-2011 10:41 PM
  7. wirelessness#AC's Avatar
    I'm seriously considering going back to the NS4G which I had for a month before the Evo 3D came out. I really like the 3D but it's not blowing my socks off like I had hoped it would. The NS4G is just compelling because of the potential to be up to date with all the latest offerings from Google. I also like the form factor better. It's got a smaller screen but it makes for a sleeker more wieldy handset. I'm still on the fence....
    07-12-2011 10:53 PM
  8. evilhugbear's Avatar
    I'm seriously considering going back to the NS4G which I had for a month before the Evo 3D came out. I really like the 3D but it's not blowing my socks off like I had hoped it would. The NS4G is just compelling because of the potential to be up to date with all the latest offerings from Google. I also like the form factor better. It's got a smaller screen but it makes for a sleeker more wieldy handset. I'm still on the fence....
    I don't know what to tell you, but the main reason I chose the Nexus, is because it doesn't have a skin on top.

    Not having a skin, like Sense or Touchwiz, seems to make it run MUCH smoother.

    Also, in my opinion, stock Android (2.3 atleast) is beautiful.
    07-13-2011 12:33 AM
  9. 7starmarc's Avatar
    I'm seriously considering going back to the NS4G which I had for a month before the Evo 3D came out. I really like the 3D but it's not blowing my socks off like I had hoped it would. The NS4G is just compelling because of the potential to be up to date with all the latest offerings from Google. I also like the form factor better. It's got a smaller screen but it makes for a sleeker more wieldy handset. I'm still on the fence....
    It's funny, I stopped by Sprint yesterday to compare the two. The screens are not that different in size when held side by side. The 3D is longer, but it almost feels like wasted space.

    I did get the feel that, at least in the browser, the 3D had a slight edge, something seemed more responsive in scrolling (I was using engadget's desktop site to compare scrolling through long fields of embedded content).

    Still on the fence. But with the recent price drop, hmm...
    07-13-2011 09:48 AM
  10. wirelessness#AC's Avatar
    Well, anyone else considering the NS4G should note that Sprint dropped the price another $50 to only $100 w/ upgrade. This is the 2nd price reduction in less than a month...they must not be selling very well.
    07-13-2011 01:35 PM
  11. crzycrkr's Avatar
    Well, anyone else considering the NS4G should note that Sprint dropped the price another $50 to only $100 w/ upgrade. This is the 2nd price reduction in less than a month...they must not be selling very well.
    Of course they're not. They do no advertising for it at all. Too late now

    Sent from my Nexus S 4G using Tapatalk
    07-13-2011 03:10 PM
  12. redtooth's Avatar
    Of course they're not. They do no advertising for it at all. Too late now

    Sent from my Nexus S 4G using Tapatalk
    I wonder if it has anything to do with the free wifi tether app? Its got to burn sprints *** that its free on this phone.
    07-13-2011 03:27 PM
  13. crzycrkr's Avatar
    I wonder if it has anything to do with the free wifi tether app? Its got to burn sprints *** that its free on this phone.
    Beats me, but I'm sure getting it a month and a half before the 3d had something to do with it to. All I know is I doubt I'll buy a non Nexus phone in the future, so I hope they sold enough to bring the next one.

    Sent from my Nexus S 4G using Tapatalk
    07-13-2011 03:33 PM
  14. splmonster's Avatar
    i have an endless amount of batteries, chargers and devices, so i know those can't be the issue.

    i've asked this before and was told that it was common... on this board.
    Yeah same here! I guess some have this issue and others do not. At least in my routine it just goes on the charger when i'm sleeping. So personally it's not a big deal to me. Even then from what info I have gathered, the slower charging is providing a more stable and accurate charge. At least in my testing with charging batteries on other kinds of devices. Slower charging ended up giving the battery longer life. In both life of the battery and life on use. Again my opinion is just based on my findings. I have felt that devices with slower charging always charged the batteries more thorough.
    07-13-2011 06:17 PM
  15. Zorachus's Avatar
    Given HTC's record with upgrading phones and the Evo 3D's flagship status, it's a near certainty that the 3D will get ICS not too long after it comes out (if ICS drops in November for example, I'd expect it to be on the 3D by February). The original EVO was bumped to Froyo from Eclair about six weeks after launch. Gingerbread took a lot longer (June) but it did get it. Also, if HTC holds to their promise to unlock the bootloader on the Evo 3D, you won't have to worry about updates if you're willing to root. Note that rooting is about as simple as can be on the NS4G, if that's of any interest to you, and the NS4G will get updates very quickly anyway since it's stock Google.
    Actually it did take HTC awhile to upgrade the EVO 4G to Gingerbread "officially", not talking custom ROM's or anything, but the true Gingerbread download from Sprint/Google didn't come out until what June ? That is a year after the phone came out, and Gingerbread was released in December on the original Nexus-S. So don't be so sure the EVO-3D will get it in a month or two after the Nexus-4.0 Prime. But the Nexus-S for sure will
    07-19-2011 11:44 AM
  16. nexus4ever's Avatar
    You should definitely switch to the NS4G if you love vannila android and wish to be the first to receive updates. I went down to my nearest sprint store on launch day to get the Evo 3d with my Evo 4g in hand and walked out with a Nexus. Couldn't be happier.

    Sent from my Nexus S 4G using Tapatalk
    07-19-2011 12:53 PM
  17. Joeblow5's Avatar
    You should definitely switch to the NS4G if you love vannila android and wish to be the first to receive updates. I went down to my nearest sprint store on launch day to get the Evo 3d with my Evo 4g in hand and walked out with a Nexus. Couldn't be happier.

    Sent from my Nexus S 4G using Tapatalk
    I switched from the 3D to the NS4G as well. The 3D was my first android deice, came from iPhone. IMO, NS4G has better battery, better UI, better design, better handling of wimax (don't have to turn it on/off all the time). I hated Sense. It seemed pointless to me.
    07-20-2011 03:34 PM
  18. ShadowKing's Avatar
    i went from nexus, to evo3d, back to nexus. after using a aosp evo 4g for months, then using the absolutely perfect (imo) nexus s, i just smitten.

    however, a defective screen made me weary, so i switched to the 3d just to see what the fuss was about. nothing on the 3d kept me hooked. games felt the same, all my apps felt the same. i never saw the use of dual core. the higher res screen WAS nice, but that's about all i saw with the evo that i would keep. i did like the form factor, it was nice in the hand, and the camera button was nice. however, 3d is just a gimmick. i used it, maybe 4-5 times in the week i had the phone.

    in the end i switched back to the nexus, just because i love the battery life, i love the screen, & sense doesn't make well, sense to me anymore. gingerbread has really stepped up and bridged that gap between hardcore user, and noob to android.
    07-20-2011 07:30 PM
  19. Zorachus's Avatar
    i went from nexus, to evo3d, back to nexus. after using a aosp evo 4g for months, then using the absolutely perfect (imo) nexus s, i just smitten.

    however, a defective screen made me weary, so i switched to the 3d just to see what the fuss was about. nothing on the 3d kept me hooked. games felt the same, all my apps felt the same. i never saw the use of dual core. the higher res screen WAS nice, but that's about all i saw with the evo that i would keep. i did like the form factor, it was nice in the hand, and the camera button was nice. however, 3d is just a gimmick. i used it, maybe 4-5 times in the week i had the phone.

    in the end i switched back to the nexus, just because i love the battery life, i love the screen, & sense doesn't make well, sense to me anymore. gingerbread has really stepped up and bridged that gap between hardcore user, and noob to android.
    I am switching to a Nexus-S today, and selling my EVO-3D, to me I don't like the physical size of the new 3D, it is too tall and heavy for my tastes, I love the form factor and lightweight feel to the Nexus, fits in pocket like it's not even there, and the screen is amazing. Will keep the Nexus-S 4G until the Nexus-Three comes out.

    I am not digging the spec's I hear about for the new Sprint Galaxy S2, with a 4.5" screen but still running the same res as the Nexus will look to blocky to me, sure the Galaxy S2 has twice the speed with dual cores and more memory, but that won't make a big difference until Ice Cream in my opinion, and then I will switch the the Nexus-Three when Sprint gets it. The Galaxy S2 will be a short lived top dog, because the next Nexus should come out just a couple months after the S2.
    08-08-2011 06:02 AM
  20. iRaNDrOiD's Avatar
    Wow, something must be wrong, or you use your phone non stop - the Nexus should last longer than the Evo 3D.
    People forget if you(you phone) is most of the time in an area with low signal the phone will drain the battery quicker trying to keep the connection. I just move from an apartment where I had full 5 with my palm pre and manage to about 16-18 hours with 1-2 calls, some browsing and lots of facebook. Now in my new apartment 1/2 bars same phone will die within 6-8 hours depending where I leave the phone around the house, switched to NS4G and while the battery last a little longer half the time the phone won't pull any data unless I have at least 2 bars which I can't get anywhere in the apartment unless I step outside of the apartment. The lesson here is THE RADION IN THE NS4G SUCKS @SS!!!!
    08-09-2011 07:56 AM
  21. milominderbinde's Avatar
    ...I am not digging the spec's I hear about for the new Sprint Galaxy S2, with a 4.5" screen but still running the same res as the Nexus will look to blocky to me, sure the Galaxy S2 has twice the speed with dual cores and more memory...
    See the Phone Comparison for more on specs but here is a quick summary.

    The Galaxy S II is 4.3" not 4.5". The Height & Width are similar but the Nexus S 4G is thicker making the Nexus S 4G about 20% bigger overall. The Galaxy S II weighs less, adds microSD, Bluetooth 3.0, Digital Zoom, DLNA, 1080p instead of 480p, higher def Rear Camera, and 7x Front Camera resolution.

    The Galaxy S II has USB OTG (USB Host) that let's you connect a USB Flash Drive, mouse or keyboard directly to the GS2. The Galaxy S II is fast even before Ice Cream Sandwich comes out: Galaxy S II benchmarked, makes other phones cry in shame.

    Speed, size, and weight aside, it really comes down to what feels best to you. You may prefer the little bigger size and weight of the Nexus S 4G.

    Play them both and see what feels best to you. It sounds like the Sprint Galaxy S II will be here soon: Sprint's Epic 4G Touch, EVO Design 4G, Motorola Admiral tipped off.
    08-09-2011 12:31 PM
  22. splmonster's Avatar
    See the Phone Comparison for more on specs but here is a quick summary.

    The Galaxy S II is 4.3" not 4.5". The Height & Width are similar but the Nexus S 4G is thicker making the Nexus S 4G about 20% bigger overall. The Galaxy S II weighs less, adds microSD, Bluetooth 3.0, Digital Zoom, DLNA, 1080p instead of 480p, higher def Rear Camera, and 7x Front Camera resolution.

    The Galaxy S II has USB OTG (USB Host) that let's you connect a USB Flash Drive, mouse or keyboard directly to the GS2. The Galaxy S II is fast even before Ice Cream Sandwich comes out: Galaxy S II benchmarked, makes other phones cry in shame.

    Speed, size, and weight aside, it really comes down to what feels best to you. You may prefer the little bigger size and weight of the Nexus S 4G.

    Play them both and see what feels best to you. It sounds like the Sprint Galaxy S II will be here soon: Sprint's Epic 4G Touch, EVO Design 4G, Motorola Admiral tipped off.
    Some rumors have claimed the GS2 will sport a 4.5in screen on some carriers. At least the Hercules will for T-Mobile if i'm not mistaken.

    http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Sam...ercules_id5541

    That is T-Mobile's GS2 variant. Unfortunately the Exynos got stripped of it. Instead it's using a Qualcomm chip.
    08-11-2011 02:25 AM
  23. j_grouchy's Avatar
    The Galaxy S II weighs less, adds microSD, Bluetooth 3.0, Digital Zoom, DLNA, 1080p instead of 480p, higher def Rear Camera, and 7x Front Camera resolution.
    Not an add, according to...umm...you.

    HDMI: The Nexus S USB port does not serve as an HDMI port but the Nexus S has DLNA for wireless HD.
    08-11-2011 09:15 AM
  24. milominderbinde's Avatar
    Sorry. HDMI.
    08-11-2011 05:39 PM
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