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  1. 6tr6tr's Avatar
    Google has been known to turn people's accounts off and then never tell them why. They've been stepping this up with Google + and people using pseudonyms or fake names. Why should you care? Because even if you don't use GMail or Google Voice, if Google turned off your google account, you'd lose all access to:

    1. SMS
    2. Contacts (on the phone, not in your exchange server)
    3. All Apps from Android Market (couldn't redownload/update them or access the Android Market at all)

    And of course if you use Google Voice no one would be able to call that phone number, you'd lose all voicemails, text messages and any Gmail contact.

    This is really scary. There's no other phone OS for which the same is true (granted with others you could lose some info/apps but they also have real tech support people to help you, and it's very rare for that to happen whereas it's happening pretty often with Google because they use an automated system/algorithm to determine if your account should be turned off and it's frequently wrong).

    When Google kills your account, what happens to your Android phone? | ITworld

    Also, while Google Takeout supposedly lets you archive all your Google Services data, it does not. It doesn't include any Android Market apps, or Google Voice or texting.

    Only allowable items to download:
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    +1s
    Buzz
    Contacts and Circles
    Picasa Web Albums
    Profile
    07-29-2011 12:40 PM
  2. Puzzlegal's Avatar
    Well, Brad Horowitz of Google claima:
    MYTH: Not abiding by the Google+ common name policy can lead to wholesale suspension of one’s entire Google account.

    When an account is suspended for violating the Google+ common name standards, access to Gmail or other products that don’t require a Google+ profile are not removed. Please help get the word out: if your Google+ Profile is suspended for not using a common name, you won't be able to use Google services that require a Google+ Profile, but you'll still be able to use Gmail, Docs, Calendar, Blogger, and so on. (Of course there are other Google-wide policies (e.g. egregious spamming, illegal activity, etc) that do apply to all Google products, and violations of these policies could in fact lead to a Google-wide suspension.)
    https://plus.google.com/u/0/11311631...ts/VJoZMS8zVqU
    07-29-2011 02:17 PM
  3. BlackHawkA4's Avatar
    I'm not fake. I'm real. Stay away.
    07-29-2011 02:17 PM
  4. 6tr6tr's Avatar
    Well, Brad Horowitz of Google claima:


    https://plus.google.com/u/0/11311631...ts/VJoZMS8zVqU
    Sure, but as I mention in my post, people get their accounts closed even without google + all the time (the article gives an actual example). And when that happens, since Google has no customer service line/email, it can be near impossible to fix.
    07-29-2011 03:36 PM
  5. BlackHawkA4's Avatar
    If Google ever does that to my account I'll sue for larceny of my paid digital merchandise; and, switch to a windows phone.
    07-29-2011 04:01 PM
  6. chud's Avatar
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    07-29-2011 04:04 PM
  7. MarkHirt's Avatar
    If Google ever does that to my account I'll sue for larceny of my paid digital merchandise; and, switch to a windows phone.
    Good luck with that
    07-29-2011 04:06 PM
  8. BlackHawkA4's Avatar
    Good luck with that
    L O L!
    07-29-2011 04:29 PM
  9. BlackHawkA4's Avatar
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    Fort Hood?
    07-29-2011 04:30 PM
  10. 6tr6tr's Avatar
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    LOL, sure in that one example, but there's been other people cut off for ways they use Google Ads or any other number of reasons. You might be cut off because Sprint complains you're using tethering (via root) without paying, who knows.
    07-29-2011 04:46 PM
  11. BlackHawkA4's Avatar
    LOL, sure in that one example, but there's been other people cut off for ways they use Google Ads or any other number of reasons. You might be cut off because Sprint complains you're using tethering (via root) without paying, who knows.
    Maybe your updating your PRL to often?
    07-29-2011 04:50 PM
  12. chud's Avatar
    Maybe your updating your PRL to often?
    Shoot, 75 percent of the board would be banned then.
    07-29-2011 04:51 PM
  13. gabbott's Avatar
    Sure, but as I mention in my post, people get their accounts closed even without google + all the time (the article gives an actual example). And when that happens, since Google has no customer service line/email, it can be near impossible to fix.
    I won't deny it could happen, but to say it happens all the time? How often do we hear on the forums of people having this happen?
    07-29-2011 04:53 PM
  14. gabbott's Avatar
    You might be cut off because Sprint complains you're using tethering (via root) without paying, who knows.
    and then wouldn't it be Sprint cutting off one's service?
    07-29-2011 04:54 PM
  15. BlackHawkA4's Avatar
    and then wouldn't it be Sprint cutting off one's service?
    Hmm, would make sense. Sprint cuts your service so you can't do it; unless, they really want to mess with you and tell Google (Because apparently they can call them and talk to someone on the phone) and have them cut your entire Android service so you can't go anywhere. And only agree to let you back in if you agree to pay the fees. And then Google will restore you data and account via tapes stored on a remote island in an underground bunker secure from the take over of machine. Which would make no sense because Google is the machine and would cause the take over; so, why would they prepare to hide from themselves?
    07-29-2011 05:15 PM
  16. chud's Avatar
    I'm going back to RIM.
    07-29-2011 05:17 PM
  17. BlackHawkA4's Avatar
    I'm going back to RIM.
    I'm not going to lie. I was thinking about it. Get a touch screen Blackberry. Nice solid phone. And now they run android apps, lol.

    The late next year get a Windows 8 tab for everything else I need to do on the go; and, at hope in place of a laptop. Hook it up to the TV.

    Who needs android when you have full Windows desktop on a portable device.

    If they come out with an LTE Touch screen blackberry. It's tempting.
    07-29-2011 05:21 PM
  18. chud's Avatar
    I'm not going to lie. I was thinking about it. Get a touch screen Blackberry. Nice solid phone. And now they run android apps, lol.

    The late next year get a Windows 8 tab for everything else I need to do on the go; and, at hope in place of a laptop. Hook it up to the TV.

    Who needs android when you have full Windows desktop on a portable device.

    If they come out with an LTE Touch screen blackberry. It's tempting.
    I really miss my Pearl and I really love what Microsoft is doing with WP7. BUT after coming from a Pre, I just couldn't take the envy anymore. Everything I wanted was on Android so I'll be here for a little bit. I'll be adding a line to jump on with WP7 though once Mango is released.

    I'd take an iPhone if it were given to me and I wouldn't go back to Verizon unless it was given to me as well (or if there were no other CDMA options).
    07-29-2011 05:55 PM
  19. BlackHawkA4's Avatar
    I really miss my Pearl and I really love what Microsoft is doing with WP7. BUT after coming from a Pre, I just couldn't take the envy anymore. Everything I wanted was on Android so I'll be here for a little bit. I'll be adding a line to jump on with WP7 though once Mango is released.

    I'd take an iPhone if it were given to me and I wouldn't go back to Verizon unless it was given to me as well (or if there were no other CDMA options).
    Pearl, gross, lol. I got the tour 9630 when I switched to Sprint. Loved it. Couldn't wait any longer to get out of ATT. When I got my Epic I think that's when the 9650 came out; but, I was moving on from Blackberry. I wanted my phone to do much much more.

    I don't know. I love android. I just think they need to work out some fragmentation bugs and get on top of their stuff. Especially with customer service. Open up a Google store or something. Look how well that does for Apple.

    To be honest though. I was happy switching to Blackberry from iPhone; so, no: I will never take an iPhone. Unless it was given to me which I would just sell it.

    Blackberry was always good to me. Solid worry free phone. Never had any issues making calls, getting email, sending SMS. I wanted a better web browser and better apps. And I wanted touch screen again; but, miss the BB keyboard. Got the Epic cause it had the keyboard. Never used it. Didn't like it.
    07-29-2011 06:03 PM
  20. chud's Avatar
    Pearl, gross, lol.
    I was coming off of a Moto Q so I wanted something a little more manageable size wise.

    Open up a Google store or something. Look how well that does for Apple.
    That would be like an F.A.O. Schwartz for nerds.



    Blackberry was always good to me. Solid worry free phone. Never had any issues making calls, getting email, sending SMS. I wanted a better web browser and better apps. And I wanted touch screen again; but, miss the BB keyboard. Got the Epic cause it had the keyboard. Never used it. Didn't like it.
    Yeah as long as you remembered to close out programs the RIGHT way and reboot every so often to keep the memory clear, they were good phones.
    07-29-2011 06:05 PM
  21. BlackHawkA4's Avatar
    I was coming off of a Moto Q so I wanted something a little more manageable size wise.

    That would be like an F.A.O. Schwartz for nerds.




    Yeah as long as you remembered to close out programs the RIGHT way and reboot every so often to keep the memory clear, they were good phones.
    I remember when I first got my Blackberry. Someone was like make sure you close out the apps. I'm like yea I did. (Thinking the home button was the only wrong way) and was getting horrendous battery life. Till I finally figured out there is a CORRECT way to close out the apps.

    I don't read user manuals. Always figure everything out on my own. Only get lost switching to new OS's. But, is that even in their? It should be if it's not.

    If they opened up a Google store near me I'd be in there everyday just messing around with things bothering people. I think they should do it. I think Apple did so well because of it. Mainly because people don't like to get things they don't understand and were able to get help easy.

    People able to go and see a real person and speak with them is comforting. Even to me. I hate dealing on the phone with Sprint people who have no idea what they are talking about; and, getting lost in the space they call Google Support Forums waiting for a Google Rep to respond to an issue I'm having with a less than 5% success rate; then, skipping over my issue because it's be addressed but no resolved and going onto the next person.

    And just for anyone here who worried about Google Book purchased and didn't notice this: A Google Rep pointed me to this. If you have a problem with a Google Books purchase you could get over the phone support; but, you have to send them YOUR number and wait for them to call you. Never tried it. Don't remember where to find it. It was well hidden.
    07-29-2011 06:17 PM
  22. slipdisc's Avatar
    I guess I better stop posting questionable images of children on my Picasa account then.................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
    Ditto that. But it also seems Google is purging accounts for many reasons.
    07-29-2011 06:33 PM
  23. BlackHawkA4's Avatar
    Ditto that. But it also seems Google is purging accounts for many reasons.
    Does anyone know anyone who this has happened to? Maybe these people who are claiming to be people and have had this happen for no reason really aren't people at all. Maybe they are, you know....

    07-29-2011 07:02 PM
  24. Puzzlegal's Avatar
    Does anyone know anyone who this has happened to? Maybe these people who are claiming to be people and have had this happen for no reason really aren't people at all. Maybe they are, you know....

    Well, one of the more "famous" people who has lost a Google account is "Skud". Skud is a real person whose employer was bought out by Google and who, as a result, worked for Google for a bit. I know people who know Skud. That is not her legal name, but it's her real name in the sense that people who know her call her that.

    I have a fairly good friend who is known by a handle that is not his legal name. It's his name in the sense that all his friends call him that, and that's what his mother calls him at the supper table. But it's not the name on his checking account. He still has a Google+ ID, but is worried it will be pulled if they notice.

    (I don't believe Skud lost her data or email or stuff like that, however. But I'm sure if you google her, you can find out. Ironic, but true.)
    07-29-2011 08:19 PM
  25. Puzzlegal's Avatar
    Here's a link to a post by Skud, with a whole lot of links to posts on the subject by a current Google Employee.

    Google is gagging user advocates | Infotropism
    07-30-2011 08:19 AM
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