09-20-2011 07:19 PM
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  1. actionjackson22's Avatar
    curious.
    09-16-2011 11:25 PM
  2. JRodHimself's Avatar
    I guess I just don't see the need
    KarmelVixen likes this.
    09-17-2011 02:27 AM
  3. mmaldin's Avatar
    What are the advantages to rooting?
    09-17-2011 09:48 AM
  4. cohoman's Avatar
    Well, my Nexus S works fine as-is and it seems like a hassle to have it rooted. Also, I'd have to basically do a hard-reset to root it, right? If so, then I've got everything loaded just the way I like it and I don't want to have to reload my apps, data, etc. again.

    Finally, my biggest concern would be when Google/Sprint comes out with OS upgrades and how that would affect my rooted phone. I'm guessing I'd have to un-root it to load those upgrades, and again I think that would be a hassle for me. I had to go through that hassle with my last iPhone when I jailbroke it. I just want a phone that works and I don't have to worry about it.

    Now, I could be wrong about the points I brought up since I haven't investigated rooting my phone very much. I'm basing my comments on what I've read on these forums.

    my two cents...
    09-17-2011 09:55 AM
  5. Bujin#IM's Avatar
    I don't see the pressing need. As I get older, I'm finding less enjoyment of tinkering for its own sake, and just want a device that has all the functionality I need.

    So for me, the question isn't "why aren't I rooted", but "what will rooting do for me?"
    09-17-2011 12:12 PM
  6. mkhall's Avatar
    I've toyed with it, having rooted plenty of devices in the past. I think the radio problems I've had with the NS4G have reminded me that my phone needs to be a phone before all else, and I don't want to have to rely on some (hard-working and unpaid) volunteers to re-patch ROMs in an OTA update kills my access.

    I switched to Android because of the depth of the market, so I'm a bit disappointed at the number of relatively important features which are only available to tinkerers, though; with luck more of them will be rolled into the core Android OS in the months/years ahead.
    09-17-2011 12:42 PM
  7. cordoni's Avatar
    I've toyed with it, having rooted plenty of devices in the past. I think the radio problems I've had with the NS4G have reminded me that my phone needs to be a phone before all else, and I don't want to have to rely on some (hard-working and unpaid) volunteers to re-patch ROMs in an OTA update kills my access.

    I switched to Android because of the depth of the market, so I'm a bit disappointed at the number of relatively important features which are only available to tinkerers, though; with luck more of them will be rolled into the core Android OS in the months/years ahead.
    Exactly. I rooted my fascinate for functionality, but my current device does what I need it to as is, working perfectly.

    Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk
    09-17-2011 12:45 PM
  8. kuoirad's Avatar
    I don't see the pressing need. As I get older, I'm finding less enjoyment of tinkering for its own sake, and just want a device that has all the functionality I need.

    So for me, the question isn't "why aren't I rooted", but "what will rooting do for me?"
    This would basically be my answer. The only thing (at the minute) I think I could gain from rooting would be running a BLN-capable kernel for using the soft button LEDs for notifications, but I'm happy enough with NoLED for now.

    All that being said, I would note that I did "hack" my Pre when I was using it - metadoctored to webOS 2.1 and ran one of the alternative kernels.
    09-17-2011 04:55 PM
  9. actionjackson22's Avatar
    The advantages to rooting would be pretty much able to use backup apps to backup all your apps, data, and pictures.
    As for updates go, usually developers include updates a little after the update comes out with sprint, besides the updates dont usually change anything dramatically.
    I can load custom roms which is my favorite part, with that I have a faster phone, better battery life, and more. With a Voodoo custom kernal, I can change my display's gamma settings and color settings and make it look even more vibrant. There is no negatives I believe, it just makes something good, better.
    m3grady2 likes this.
    09-17-2011 05:17 PM
  10. Zerocool84's Avatar
    My last phone (Samsung Moment) needed to be rooted to just use the phone, the NS doesn't need it to be a great phone.
    09-17-2011 05:41 PM
  11. Polish Prince's Avatar
    My last phone (Samsung Moment) needed to be rooted to just use the phone, the NS doesn't need it to be a great phone.
    ditto

    Sent from my Nexus S 4G using Tapatalk. Kay pof shinum wif a bardle doo.
    09-18-2011 02:45 AM
  12. Makinola's Avatar
    Just find that the phone is great as is, rooting on Android takes more time since it kills other functions like the OTA. On my previous webos it didn't do that, so i find that the Nexus is great as is. Plus feeling too lazy to do all that work again.
    09-18-2011 09:42 AM
  13. rem_kujawa's Avatar
    Because it's everything I've ever needed in a device.
    09-18-2011 10:14 AM
  14. User One's Avatar
    IMO, rooting is only for tech savvy people who "like tinkering" with their phone all the time. I personally don't have the time or patience. And what gets me is the people who "demand" a root for a phone the day it's released.....smh

    Sent from my HTC Evo using Tapatalk.
    09-18-2011 10:35 AM
  15. j_grouchy's Avatar
    Well, my Nexus S works fine as-is and it seems like a hassle to have it rooted. Also, I'd have to basically do a hard-reset to root it, right? If so, then I've got everything loaded just the way I like it and I don't want to have to reload my apps, data, etc. again.

    Finally, my biggest concern would be when Google/Sprint comes out with OS upgrades and how that would affect my rooted phone. I'm guessing I'd have to un-root it to load those upgrades, and again I think that would be a hassle for me. I had to go through that hassle with my last iPhone when I jailbroke it. I just want a phone that works and I don't have to worry about it.

    Now, I could be wrong about the points I brought up since I haven't investigated rooting my phone very much. I'm basing my comments on what I've read on these forums.

    my two cents...
    ^^ this.
    09-18-2011 11:40 AM
  16. igotsanevo4g's Avatar
    It seems people are implying that being unrooted is better or that being rooted is better.

    Do what YOU want with YOUR device. Some people don't want, or need the extras the rooting allows and some do. Let's not forget that.
    09-18-2011 01:45 PM
  17. gabbott's Avatar
    It seems people are implying that being unrooted is better or that being rooted is better.

    Do what YOU want with YOUR device. Some people don't want, or need the extras the rooting allows and some do. Let's not forget that.
    This. It is nice to know that with the Nexus, one CAN root pretty easily if they so want to. We don't have to worry with the Nexus of the bootloader being locked or having to wait on a new exploit to be found to root a new update. There are some ROMs out there (e.g. oxygen rom) that do have some nice additions on top of stock android (like the adjustable settings in the notification drop-down) and things like applying voodoo controls to improve upon the sound and color of the display.

    Some people don't like to tinker, and this phone works very well as-is as well.
    09-18-2011 01:50 PM
  18. Paul627g's Avatar
    I feel many people do obtain root for one reason, so they have access to free wireless tethering abilities. Not everyone feels they should have to pay for mobile internet card/hotspot for their laptops and use the option available when root is obtained.

    I know from my prior experience on the Samsung Epic 4g section many users came in their looking for root just for this simple reason. Not to run ROMs or anything else they just wanted to be able to have internet access for their laptop on the go.

    So to each their own... I don't judge anyone by their decision to root or not. Its your choice, nobody here at AC says "YOU MUST ROOT". We suggest it for those interested or seemly interested and go no further if they don't show interest.
    09-18-2011 01:57 PM
  19. grantheppes's Avatar
    I rooted to tether with the data I already paid for (just because I have a wifi only tablet that I take with me most places) and for screenshots (I love them for funny texts to send to twitter).

    Those two functions seemed worth it to me (this phone is so easy to root compared to others). I also like installing AOSP ROMS for speed and better battery life. I am using Oxygen right now and that ROM is running great (great battery life and performance compared to stock and CM7).
    09-18-2011 07:23 PM
  20. bear_lx's Avatar
    well i am not going to root because last time i had an android phone (samsung fascinate) i had too many bugs! it became high maintenance, and i found myself constantly wanting to flash custgom roms. with that i had applications not playing well together, force closes, and the need to tweek my phone far too often. all i want now, is a phone that just works.... which is why i went to wp7 for so long. however tmobile sucks so i cancelled and sprint is my next best option. and i must say there is a part of me that misses androids customability. wp7 is still to new, but a promising platform. so i get my nexus s 4g friday and its time to get customizing. oh another reason i am not going to root is because there is so much freedom as far as tweeking w/o rooting. custom launchers, apps, widgets, desktop icon packs, list goes on... so for me, there is no need to root.
    09-19-2011 06:44 PM
  21. BlackHawkA4's Avatar
    I wasn't rooted since launch till about 2 weeks ago.

    I didn't root because I didn't need to. Everything was Vanilla. Everything worked. Updates were coming through nicely. I also didn't root because I previously owned an Epic 4g and that phone was a nightmare and a half and still never worked right.

    I only rooted because I wanted my Roam Control back after the hurricane. Sprint tower by work was out for a week and a half. Then the beast took over and I've been messing with different things almost every other day and love it. I went back to stock (still rooted) but just missed all the extra convenience features rooting has to offer.

    Do you need to root this phone. No. Would I have rooted it if I didn't want Roam Control that day. Maybe, after I got bored after ICS release. Do I miss not being rooted. No. Would I miss being rooted. Yes, because of CM7 and even MIUI.

    Sorry, added my two cents. Ha, but seriously. Unless you NEEEEEEED an app that needs root you don't need to root this phone. And I only needed one for a week. But anyone who says there phone does everything they need obviously hasn't tried even just a basic alternate rom that adds a few cool extra features. I live off them now.

    Warning: rooting is more addictive than crack. If you want to keep your friends and family and not live in a dark basement squinting at your phone all day yelling at people to shut up because your busy for no reason and be completely clueless to things around you don't root. Stay where you are. (Seriously, I rooted right before I went on vacation from work and had hundreds of missed articles in Google Reader I couldn't catch up on, L O L)
    09-19-2011 06:55 PM
  22. deathpod's Avatar
    I've recently un-rooted but right away there is one major things I miss. Voodoo sound.

    If you're an audiophile at all, or even just a little bit, this is kind of a big deal. There is one sweet little headphone amp hiding behind your NS4G's 3.5" jack and once you've opened it up, you may never want to go back. Now that I've gone back to the un-rooted 2.3.5 and lost the updated voodoo kernel drivers, my music, podcasts, netflix and games all sound flat and lifeless.

    I do wanna give a big +1 to the choice argument. If you don't have any need to root, don't. Jerry summed it up pretty well in the AC podcast a little while ago, and actually was part of the reason I came back to stock 2.3.5. But for me, I just can't listen to the Hospital Records podcast without the necessary punch any longer. Once I've tried out the the OTA that should be rolling out here soon, I'm heading back to the rooted side.
    09-19-2011 07:31 PM
  23. BlackHawkA4's Avatar
    I've recently un-rooted but right away there is one major things I miss. Voodoo sound.

    If you're an audiophile at all, or even just a little bit, this is kind of a big deal. There is one sweet little headphone amp hiding behind your NS4G's 3.5" jack and once you've opened it up, you may never want to go back. Now that I've gone back to the un-rooted 2.3.5 and lost the updated voodoo kernel drivers, my music, podcasts, netflix and games all sound flat and lifeless.

    I do wanna give a big +1 to the choice argument. If you don't have any need to root, don't. Jerry summed it up pretty well in the AC podcast a little while ago, and actually was part of the reason I came back to stock 2.3.5. But for me, I just can't listen to the Hospital Records podcast without the necessary punch any longer. Once I've tried out the the OTA that should be rolling out here soon, I'm heading back to the rooted side.
    Forget about Voodoo Sound. Voodoo Colors. MY GOD! I thought my screen was washed out comparing it to the other one. Blows it away now, lol. Of course that one is not rooted.

    I can say why I didn't root the other phone. It's my girlfriends and I think she'd be better off stock unrooted. . She has trouble updating apps let alone if I told her to update a rom. (OTA included.)
    09-19-2011 07:40 PM
  24. jnl813's Avatar
    Forget about Voodoo Sound. Voodoo Colors. MY GOD! I thought my screen was washed out comparing it to the other one. Blows it away now, lol. Of course that one is not rooted.

    I can say why I didn't root the other phone. It's my girlfriends and I think she'd be better off stock unrooted. . She has trouble updating apps let alone if I told her to update a rom. (OTA included.)
    Where can I get Voodoo color?

    Sent from my Nexus S 4G using Tapatalk
    09-19-2011 08:18 PM
  25. Shark_On_Land's Avatar
    I broke my windows machine that has all the one cluck roots.

    Thus I have to use the sdk. In Linux and the fastboot is acting sassy with me. Adb works. Fastboot is an ***.

    Sent from my Nexus S 4G using Tapatalk
    09-19-2011 08:35 PM
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