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  1. milominderbinde's Avatar
    ...I will miss...2) just type (damn that made finding people to text so fast)...
    4) switching between apps

    Im still confused on whats the best way to kill apps on the Android phones...
    Just Type
    You have Just Type. Touch Search then Just start Typing. For much more click the Getting Started button at the top of any forum> it is the Just Type section under Search, Voice Search, and Voice Actions. You can easily customize what is included in your Just Type search.

    Switch Apps
    To Switch apps,see Multitasking section. You can long-press home to see your last 8 Recent Apps. I use so many different apps that that is not enough. Folders is the key to letting you be three clicks away from up to 256 apps.

    Don't Kill Apps
    You should typically not kill apps. See the video from Google at the end of the Multitasking section.
    05-29-2011 10:53 PM
  2. milominderbinde's Avatar
    ...The bad:
    Multitasking is in there somewhere...
    - See Multitasking...
    Notifications.
    - See Notifications...
    The non Gmail email client...
    - See Email Tips and Tricks for info and K-9 Mail.
    Bring back Facebook sync!
    - OK! In the Getting Started OP, see Contacts, Facebook, Twitter, & LinkedIn Sync
    System settings...
    - See Setup Tips and Tricks for a quick walkthrough...

    Jeep_ster, we helped literally hundreds of people through the same learning curve with the Pre. The Pre was not worse than their old phones, just different. These same issues came up so often with the Pre that I wrote the webOS Getting Started Guides. And now for Android: Getting Started.

    You know our 340 patches for webOS? Imagine if Palm had listened to us and made those as options. Google was listening and did make them options.

    The upside is that you get to set up every little detail. The downside is that you get to set up every little detail.

    The Palm webOS Homebrewer's Guide to Android will walk you through the differences. It is all there and so much more. It is just laid out a little differently.
    05-29-2011 11:20 PM
  3. theotherlinh's Avatar
    Just Type
    You have Just Type. Touch Search then Just start Typing
    It's not the same. I use a persons initials to find their number relatively frequently. I will miss this most from Just Type. Not a deal breaker of course, but it was pretty intelligent.

    Notifications.
    - See Notifications...
    I'm waiting for google to let me clear a notification without having to actually view the message. Again, just different way of doing things, but I still like webOS better for it =)

    Needless to say, I was disappointed in the false sales rumor for the Nexus S on amazon... would have bought them for the whole family =) Now I will continue to wait for the EVO3D...
    05-30-2011 06:30 AM
  4. j_grouchy's Avatar
    It's not the same. I use a persons initials to find their number relatively frequently. I will miss this most from Just Type. Not a deal breaker of course, but it was pretty intelligent.


    I'm waiting for google to let me clear a notification without having to actually view the message. Again, just different way of doing things, but I still like webOS better for it =)

    Agreed...I do prefer webOS for these two things. Regarding notifications, though...I actually prefer the unobtrusiveness of the Android notifications. It always annoyed me how they took up a good bit of my Pixi's screen (even minimized, they ate up screen real estate). I miss being able to swipe individual notifications away, but I prefer how they appear in Android. If Android let me swipe them away, it would be the best of both worlds.
    05-30-2011 09:06 AM
  5. milominderbinde's Avatar
    Another thing I miss is the facebook pictures that were automatically assigned to my contacts. Is there a way to add this in? I had to manually enter all of my contacts online through Google Contacts, which sucked.
    I think you have two issues. Contacts were saved to your phone, not Google and Facebook Sync needs to be turned on. Here is the detail.

    1. Contacts were saved to your phone, not Google
    When you bought your new phone, the rep should have transferred you old phone contacts to the new phone. Here is what to do if they didn't. From the Palm webOS Homebrewer's Guide to Android:
    Contact "Synergy"
    Android automatically syncs contacts, calendar, profile photos, and email with Microsoft Exchange, Facebook, Flickr, Google, LinkedIn, Quik, Twitter, and more. When friends call, their Facebook photo and status pop up along with their name and number. For details on how to sync Accounts, see the Getting Started section on Facebook, Twitter, & LinkedIn Sync. Your webOS contacts and calendar from your Gmail account will automatically transfer to your new Android phone. Always save contacts to Google, not to your phone so that they were backed up to Google.

    But what if you saved contact to Palm instead? You can export all Palm Profile contacts using the Send All Contacts via Email patch. Once this patch is installed, you will have a new option in your Contacts application to Save All Via Email. Send to your Gmail account. On your computer, open Gmail and save the "vCards" vcf file then open Gmail contacts and import this vcf file. All of your Facebook, LinkedIn, and Palm Profile phone numbers, birthdays, and other information will transfer. With Android this patch is built in; just tap People > Menu > Import/Export. Always save contacts to Google, not the phone.
    2. Facebook Sync needs to be turned on.
    From the Getting Started. To sync with Facebook: Tap Home > Menu > Settings > Accounts & Sync > Add Account > Facebook
    Contacts, Facebook, Twitter, & LinkedIn Sync
    Android integrates updates from Exchange, Facebook, Flickr, LinkedIn, Twitter, and other accounts into your Calendar and People (contacts). As friends or contacts update their email addresses, birthdays, phone numbers, events, photos, and status, your phone is automatically updated.
    • To backup contacts from an Android device, tap Home > People > Inport/Export > Export
    • Create new contacts Always save contacts as Contact Type Google NOT to Phone or they will not be backed up automatically.
    • Tap Home > Menu > Settings > Accounts & Sync to Add an account or change settings.
    • Set the Facebook Account settings to minimize how often it syncs to save battery.
    • Tap People > Menu > View to turn on or off contacts from your different accounts, that is to hide or see certain contacts.
    • For LinkedIn, first download the app here.
    • Tap People > Menu > Groups button to see only certain groups of contacts.
    For privacy, Android does not Sync accounts unless you specificaly ask it to. Just like with your Pre, Always save contacts to Google, not the phone.
    05-30-2011 10:05 AM
  6. milominderbinde's Avatar
    It's not the same. I use a persons initials to find their number relatively frequently...
    The ability to type initials to bring up a contact is a feature unique to webOS. In Android, to find you in my contacts, I would type "LI" or "NG".

    But why do you want to look at a contact? Maybe you don't want to look at the contact at all? Maybe you want to text, email, or call them? So why not save the step of finding the contact?

    Install Voice Actions and Voice Search. If you are running late, you can text Linh without driving. Long-press Search then say
    "Text Linh Will be there in 15 minutes"

    With Android you skip the step of looking up the contact. And you don't have to type anything.

    I'm waiting for google to let me clear a notification without having to actually view the message...
    I do like the ability in webOS to swipe away Notifications without looking at them. So how I do it in Android is tap the ones I want to see and then Clear the rest.
    05-30-2011 11:02 AM
  7. NOMster's Avatar
    You could also try dialer one.
    05-30-2011 11:39 AM
  8. theotherlinh's Avatar
    The ability to type initials to bring up a contact is a feature unique to webOS. In Android, to find you in my contacts, I would type "LI" or "NG".

    But why do you want to look at a contact? Maybe you don't want to look at the contact at all? Maybe you want to text, email, or call them? So why not save the step of finding the contact?

    Install Voice Actions and Voice Search. If you are running late, you can text Linh without driving. Long-press Search then say
    "Text Linh Will be there in 15 minutes"

    With Android you skip the step of looking up the contact. And you don't have to type anything.
    Voice control will certainly be something to get used to (if it works well for me). And an appeal coming from webOS... I've wanted to have a simple voice recorder for a while (it's webOS 2.x only, and well, I'm a first day Pre owner that was let down).

    But, just mostly saying it's touches like that I will miss, and something Android can certainly emulate.

    I do like the ability in webOS to swipe away Notifications without looking at them. So how I do it in Android is tap the ones I want to see and then Clear the rest.
    But doesn't that defeat the whole purpose? Say I get a couple of text messages from a couple of different ppl, some short, some long. I can already see the short ones, so no point in opening it, and then I can just swipe it away while leaving the others alone.

    Maybe I don't understand how notifications work completely on android.
    05-30-2011 12:58 PM
  9. milominderbinde's Avatar
    for those that will miss the card view there is an app called iching thumb that is very similar to card view on the pre. as well as wave launcher for quick app access. other apps that are similar are virtual task switcher and perfect task switcher. I like iching thumb the best but it doesnt hurt to have options. Here are the links below:

    Iching Thumb
    https://market.android.com/details?i...=search_result

    Virtual Task Switcher
    https://market.android.com/details?i...e.taskswitcher

    Perfect Task Switcher
    https://market.android.com/details?i...d.taskswitcher

    Wave Launcher
    https://market.android.com/details?i...t.wavelauncher

    Dock4Droid
    https://market.android.com/details?i...rbandroid.dock
    I had tried all of these but Perfect Task Switcher and opted to just not use any of them. But Perfect Task Switcher is amazing. I will add it to the Palm webOS Homebrewer's Guide to Android.

    Nice!
    05-30-2011 01:00 PM
  10. Slosh01's Avatar
    I posted the following on the Introductions Thread earlier.

    http://forum.androidcentral.com/intr...nough-pre.html

    Thanks for creating this thread. I am really looking forward to moving on from the Pre- and learning the Android OS.

    I think I will miss the Touchstone & Synergy the most. The hardware, I will definitely not!!

    Slosh
    05-30-2011 01:27 PM
  11. j_grouchy's Avatar
    I cannot seem to add my facebook account. Just goes back to the previous page when I try.
    05-30-2011 02:08 PM
  12. jonesey#AC's Avatar
    Nice to see a lot of familiar users in here from Precentral
    I just switched to the Nexus S last week, after 2 years of Pre. I am sold on the hardware, but not the OS. I knew that I didn't like Android... that's putting it mildly... but thought that maybe the pure Google version would be better.
    Here's my problems so far...
    Can't search email in stock app. (gmail is not my primary account, and I like it that way.)
    No SMS tones per contact in stock app.
    Searching with initials for contacts, and hard key shortcuts.
    Multi-tasking... works, but not elegant. Apps don't really shut down... so I have to manually tell apps like NewsRoom and Doggcatcher to refresh, since I don't like having them constantly search in background.
    Etc, etc....
    I've tried some apps to get this functionality (K/9 for email, Go SMS for tones, etc.) but I'm not really impressed... they just run aside the stock core apps. So two things running.
    I love patching on webOS... simply add functions to stock apps without replacing anything.

    I'm really trying to learn and love this Nexus, and Android... but I miss the elegance and intuitive user experience. So far Android seems to me a powerful, fast, yet clunky machine. Hence the robot?

    I'm hoping to be shown I'm wrong... will keep reading this forum and hoping...
    But there's no doubt that if Sprint announces Pre3, or even iPhone, later on... I'll jump right back to what just works.
    05-30-2011 04:48 PM
  13. piaband's Avatar
    Nice to see a lot of familiar users in here from Precentral
    I just switched to the Nexus S last week, after 2 years of Pre. I am sold on the hardware, but not the OS. I knew that I didn't like Android... that's putting it mildly... but thought that maybe the pure Google version would be better.
    Here's my problems so far...
    Can't search email in stock app. (gmail is not my primary account, and I like it that way.)
    No SMS tones per contact in stock app.
    Searching with initials for contacts, and hard key shortcuts.
    Multi-tasking... works, but not elegant. Apps don't really shut down... so I have to manually tell apps like NewsRoom and Doggcatcher to refresh, since I don't like having them constantly search in background.
    Etc, etc....
    I've tried some apps to get this functionality (K/9 for email, Go SMS for tones, etc.) but I'm not really impressed... they just run aside the stock core apps. So two things running.
    I love patching on webOS... simply add functions to stock apps without replacing anything.

    I'm really trying to learn and love this Nexus, and Android... but I miss the elegance and intuitive user experience. So far Android seems to me a powerful, fast, yet clunky machine. Hence the robot?

    I'm hoping to be shown I'm wrong... will keep reading this forum and hoping...
    But there's no doubt that if Sprint announces Pre3, or even iPhone, later on... I'll jump right back to what just works.
    I understand where you are coming from. I was a day one pre owner. I miss a lot about webos.

    You really have to stop comparing them. I know thats hard to do but it's the only way you will enjoy something else. android offers a ton of things you just can't get on webos. Mainly the apps but a lot of other things too. The swype keyboard is awesome. The ability to change nearly any app on the phone.

    Android is just different. You just need to give it time and put the same effort into learning what makes it great like you did with webos.

    Sent from my Nexus S 4G using Tapatalk
    05-30-2011 10:38 PM
  14. NOMster's Avatar
    Let me amend my earlier post. Making a shortcut to 4g settings does work with launcher pro.
    Long press a blank spot
    Choose shortcuts
    Choose activities
    Choose 4g settings
    Click the dialog that opens.

    Your shortcut will be on the screen and it will work. I just made it several times and used it. Not sure why it was force closing earlier. Most likely user error.
    05-30-2011 11:56 PM
  15. milominderbinde's Avatar
    ...Here's my problems so far..
    Can't search email in stock app. (gmail is not my primary account, and I like it that way.)
    From the Getting Started, Email Tips and Tricks:
    Sort and Search
    - Emails are sorted by most recent date first but you can sort them any way you like: Tap Menu > Sort
    - Search Email: While in Email tap Search -or- Home > Search and tap the blue G button for Email only.
    Of get K-9 Mail for dozens more great added features.
    No SMS tones per contact in stock app.
    From the Getting Started, Setup Tips and Tricks:
    Set Alerts and Ringtones
    To set ringtones and alerts:...
    Home > All Apps > People > {contact} > {Ringtone}
    Searching with initials for contacts, and hard key shortcuts.
    Yes, you would probably have to type "jons" to find Jonsey's contact instead of "tj". But was the point to look at a contact or to do something like send them a text? To send a text to Jonsey, you might long-press Search and say "Text Jonsey Are you still going to the party tomorrow"

    That is one keystroke with Voice Actions and Voice Search or about 50 keystrokes in webOS.

    Multi-tasking... works, but not elegant. Apps don't really shut down...
    Try Perfect Task Switcher for Recent App cards like Ice Cream Sandwich will have. Click X to close an app.

    I wrote the Pre Getting Started guides because of how frustrated people were trying to find everything. Some people are great at change. But after helping a zillion people you know some should not try to change.
    05-31-2011 12:40 AM
  16. jonesey#AC's Avatar
    From the Getting Started, Email Tips and Tricks:
    Sort and Search
    - Emails are sorted by most recent date first but you can sort them any way you like: Tap Menu > Sort
    - Search Email: While in Email tap Search -or- Home > Search and tap the blue G button for Email only.
    Of get K-9 Mail for dozens more great added features.

    From the Getting Started, Setup Tips and Tricks:
    Set Alerts and Ringtones
    To set ringtones and alerts:...
    Home > All Apps > People > {contact} > {Ringtone}

    I wrote the Pre Getting Started guides because of how frustrated people were trying to find everything. Some people are great at change. But after helping a zillion people you know some should not try to change.
    I don't know what other devices or android versions do, but on the Nexus S with Gingerbread, pressing search in the Mail app does nothing at all. And pressing the blue G in search does not give an option to search Mail. Settings does not list it as an option. Seems like they really want you to use GMail. I tried K-9 and it does search, but not as you type.

    On the tones per contact, are you saying that changing their ringtone assigns that to the SMS alert also? I didn't realize that if it is the case... but still isn't the point. I want a SEPARATE tone for SMS than for ringtones. (I like loud, long ringtones, and short, quiet text tones. I'm odd that way.)

    I'm really trying... went back to GoSMS and am trying to make it work for me. I put on the Launcher Pro and actually like it... much better dock. You've recommended Missed Call; do you mean Missed Call Deluxe? I may try it since I miss my repeating alerts... Just not sure if it'll work with the ones I set up in GoSMS? Also saw RingoPro which does similar things...

    I still have a few weeks to try to learn and love it. Really appreciate the suggestions and help!
    05-31-2011 06:49 AM
  17. j_grouchy's Avatar
    I tried K-9, but it didn't seem to work, it wouldn't bring up any emails no matter how many settings I messed with. I uninstalled it after about 30 minutes of trying. Not worth the effort, in my opinion. I'm down to using the straight GMail app. At least that one tells me the correct number of unread messages in my notifications. It has all I really need. I don't really do tags or labels. I read, delete, archive or just let them sit in the inbox. I enjoy emails only slightly more than talking on the phone which, if you know me, is almost not at all.
    05-31-2011 08:27 AM
  18. hi-tech34's Avatar
    I am trying to get the gmail app to show all of my inbox like teh web does but I can't seem to find the correct setting to use. If I set it to sync 5 days it shows all my inbox but only for a little while and then goes away and only shows back to like 5 months or so.
    05-31-2011 08:34 AM
  19. Kloneicle's Avatar
    I didn't have any issues myself switching over. I had already configured everything to be "preety" and gmail contact syncing with the Pre. I wasn't a huge fan of the webOS Profile contact managment, nothing was ever kept linked.
    05-31-2011 10:03 AM
  20. j_grouchy's Avatar
    Another thing I miss from webOS: screencapture.

    With webOS, it was just a matter of hitting the "orange key" + SYM + P simultaneously.

    With Android, apparently one has to root their phone. I'm not interested in doing that right now...so I suppose I'm just SOL.
    05-31-2011 10:06 AM
  21. darrenf's Avatar
    I tried K-9, but it didn't seem to work, it wouldn't bring up any emails no matter how many settings I messed with. I uninstalled it after about 30 minutes of trying. Not worth the effort, in my opinion. I'm down to using the straight GMail app. At least that one tells me the correct number of unread messages in my notifications. It has all I really need.
    If you are using a gmail account, the stock email reader is good (or so I hear). The stock IMAP reader, on the other hand, is terrible.

    I installed K9 on two different phones and in both cases push email wouldn't work right away no matter what I tried. In each case, though, they were getting push email within 24 hours and I haven't had a problem since.

    -darren


    Sent from my Nexus S 4G using Tapatalk
    05-31-2011 06:02 PM
  22. hi-tech34's Avatar
    How do you set up the Gmail so all your inbox messages show on your phone?
    05-31-2011 08:17 PM
  23. NOMster's Avatar
    the tones per contact, are you saying that changing their ringtone assigns that to the SMS alert also? I didn't realize that if it is the case... but still isn't the point. I want a SEPARATE tone for SMS than for ringtones. (I like loud, long ringtones, and short, quiet text tones. I'm odd that way.)
    If I understand correctly, you want customized ringtones and SMS tones, right? Easy.
    You can do customized ringtones although its a little different than the guide. I think it was written using an HTC phone. Just open contacts click on a contact hit menu and click options. There you can set the ringtone.
    The easiest way to set a custom notification without using a 3rd party messaging app in my experience is to use SMS popup. It adds all the stuff those third party apps have that people like without actually being a third party messenger. Custom notification tones. A popup, reminders, customized icon for notifications, quick reply, the whole nine yards.
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    05-31-2011 08:41 PM
  24. theotherlinh's Avatar
    I didn't have any issues myself switching over. I had already configured everything to be "preety" and gmail contact syncing with the Pre. I wasn't a huge fan of the webOS Profile contact managment, nothing was ever kept linked.
    huh? my gmail contacts were always in sync. do you mean linking your palm profile to your gmail contacts? yeah, there should have been an easy way to do that.
    05-31-2011 09:56 PM
  25. stlsports's Avatar
    for 4g on launcher pro....long hold on blank area of desktop,shortcuts,activities,4g settings,4g settings. viola!
    06-02-2011 11:27 AM
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