People never start out with something like that unless they know that that's precisely how it's going to be perceived. Why, then, do it? Just say what you want to say and don't couch it in insincerity.
I'm actually meaning this in a friendly way...
Of
course you're not, or you wouldn't have needed to misdirect and call it something it's not; and that you, me and God all
know it's not. Please don't pee on our collective leg, and then tell us it's raining.
...but just leave it alone some people don't necessarily get a phone for what it is but a vague suggestion and promise what it can be.
In what you wrote are the smartest words in this thread, to wit: "
...some people don't necessarily get a phone for what it is, but a vague suggestion and promise what it can be." Well put.
However, there's nothing friendly about telling someone to just leave it alone... at least not without putting "please" in front if it. Your desire to control how I present, here, ultimately overtook your perceived obligations to the implied social contract... with "control" being the operative word, given what next you write.
And if I might add this constant redirecting of everyone to your dictation/opinion might come across as controlling. Not everyone will ever agree or adopt another opinion as there own.
If
that were the criteria, around here -- or in
any forum, for that matter -- there'd be fewer than half the postings; and eventually everyone would lose interest.
Moreover, stop it with the "controlling." You sound like a man-hating women's rights activist (which, except for the "man hating" part, I happen to be; so I easily recognize it). It's simply not possible for anyone to be "controlling" in a half-duplex paradigm like this one; and, more directly to your "controlling" point, there is nothing -- and I mean
nothing -- wrong with the notion of "control." Control is essential in life; and those who think it's not follow, while those who think it is lead. I am unapologetic about control, just generally. Sadly, for purposes of your point, what I'm doing, here, has nothing to do with control; and your thinking so speaks volumes about how someone has likely abused you in life, and so you see all assertiveness as control.
There's a huge difference between being controlling, and being assertive -- and insistent on a point --
so that no one will be misled, which is my only real goal. Only people with victimization issues can't tell the difference.
Additionally, the debate doesn't break down until and unless people start name-calling and becoming abusive, which I do not do. If it seems to you like I am, then perhaps you need to take a giant step back and self-examine.
People don't get to just keep making-up their own stuff, with impunity. I will challenge it every single time, which is my right. I fear your experience with forums is limited, and so you're under a wrong impression about how they're supposed to work; and how spirited debate, if that's what's going on, looks. I'm sorry if my participation, here, rubs you the wrong way, but that's not my problem, and shame on you for trying to make it so. My words, here, are as valid as are yours; and I fear that your rolling your eyes at the ceiling and thinking you know what I'm going to write is keeping you from actually
reading all my words which, here, are fair to both sides of the issue; and allow for me to be wrong (and specify what I'll do if I am). I don't see how I could possibly be more fair in my presentation...
...which presentation, at least, just makes the points, and doesn't tell anyone how they should be making theirs. You, on the other hand, are trying to tell me how to make mine...
...which is the very definition -- the
epitome -- of controlling. Please try to see that.
How 'bout I write, here, what
I want which doesn't violate this place's TOS; and you write, here, what
you want which doesn't violate this place's TOS, and let's just leave it at that, shall we?
Oy... more insincerity. Sometimes "thank you" is really "thank you;" and sometimes it's actually a kiss-off. You, me and God all know which one you meant...
...just like the conservative Christian, me and God all know what said Christian means when s/he says "bless you" to me after I've had the temerity to call him/her on his/her Bible-thumping spiritual abuse of others. It's all the same passive-aggressive sort of thing.
Again, I'll write what I write, and you write what you write; and if they have cause to respond to one another, then let's just do that, and not also try to tell one another how to present, shall we?
I think that would be better, don't you?
[a rhetorical question]