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  1. glorifiedsins's Avatar
    If you're not actively browsing the net or playing a game/movie then just turn off all nonessentials. Turn wifi off don't allow it to connect to the lte network, then background data off and don't allow it to sync, turn off GPS, and a huge factor turn down your brightness too a minimum. You can also end all unneeded processes via task manager. If the phone's in your pocket and you just want to receive texts and calls you don't need all that junk on and running. Same with Bluetooth unless you use it for an earpiece.
    10-04-2011 12:07 AM
  2. Mr.Gadget's Avatar
    What could be running cause this?
    Do you have push mail going? I sync with my work Exchange Server via push and gmail too.
    I was wondering if I switch to regular polling (like every hour) vs push will help... ?
    10-04-2011 12:40 AM
  3. pairenoid's Avatar
    I had pretty stellar battery life, IMO.

    Phone was off the charger at 6:45 AM PST. Usage consisted of:

    25 Min (approx) of calls
    20 - 25 min of web browsing.
    4 Apps downloaded and played with for 5 - 10 minutes each
    15 or so photos taken (most with flash)
    A few IM's
    12 - 15 texts throughout the day.
    4 Speedtests
    2 30MB+ files downloaded (over HSPA+)
    And showing the phone off to 2 people for a few minutes each.

    By 4:30 PM I still had 46% battery left. I'm pretty happy with that.
    comparable activity but your life is better

    my brightness is on lowest
    everything discussed is off
    only thing i can think of is that i have really bad reception all day most of the time, 1-2 bars at home and 2-3 at work
    it usually stays h+..that could be killing me? i mean my phone can technically last a full day on moderate use i feel but i dont want to charge the instant i get home, i mean this is only if i have work n come home

    i havent tested going out all night with my friends using n texting more =[ but i feel it would be almost if not dead by the time i come home at this rate
    10-04-2011 01:02 AM
  4. omgabunny's Avatar
    Do you have push mail going? I sync with my work Exchange Server via push and gmail too.
    I was wondering if I switch to regular polling (like every hour) vs push will help... ?
    i just switched to a rom with a lot of bloatware removed. coming from a nexus s, i can't stand the touchwiz additions and at&t apps. i haven't changed to interval polling yet as i just finished rooting/etc but i will get to it tomorrow after a full night's charge. will let ya know.
    10-04-2011 01:06 AM
  5. glorifiedsins's Avatar
    Samsung batteries aren't meant to charge fast like an iPhones battery for example. But you have the ability to replace/remove the battery on your own. Unlike the iphone. And yes the lte network will drain your battery. You can turn this off via mobile settings at the bottom of your wifi settings. Disable use packet data. This means you have to turn it back on to receive text attachments and to surf the web/receive notifications when not near a wifi source. Also regular polling will save your battery.
    10-04-2011 01:20 AM
  6. pairenoid's Avatar
    what is regular polling, if i turn off packet data will i still receive regular texts/calls?

    whats the point in leaving it on for someone who will not get calls but texts, probably no attachments at all

    i mean ill turn it on if i want to browse and cant use wifi. would it be sound to turn off data packets when im off and with my friends, so i basically wont need to call/text as much, and leave it on when im bored at work so i can check facebook or check the market
    10-04-2011 01:38 AM
  7. pauloeyi's Avatar
    please help me here....i root my phone and i delete orange map and all games but now i cant access anything on my phone..i have also mistakenly delete contactprovider.apk ..serviceprovder.
    how can i get a custom rom for my devices and i will install a custom rom on a phone that is now stock at booting....i can still access adb command. thanks
    10-04-2011 01:49 AM
  8. glorifiedsins's Avatar
    what is regular polling, if i turn off packet data will i still receive regular texts/calls?

    whats the point in leaving it on for someone who will not get calls but texts, probably no attachments at all

    i mean ill turn it on if i want to browse and cant use wifi. would it be sound to turn off data packets when im off and with my friends, so i basically wont need to call/text as much, and leave it on when im bored at work so i can check facebook or check the market
    You still receive calls and texts like normal but it wont auto download text message attachments til you turn it back on. And it wont constantly search for the lte network. It will keep you on the 2g-3g network. No effect on calls or normal texts.

    As for push vs polling its my understanding that push is basically where your email client or app sends you information when a new message has been received or something has changes warranting a notification. Polling, however, is where you query the client or system yourself to see if anything is new or has changed. So you can decide how often you want to check for notifications instead or them rolling in right away. You can set up most apps to poll for you at regular intervals instead of having the connection constantly open waiting for a push.
    10-04-2011 02:19 AM
  9. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    Push email (when done properly) uses NO battery because the phone has to do nothing to receive the data. Pull (or polling) will because the phone has to manually check, which means it's going to actively use the data network.

    Also, this phone doesn't have an LTE radio, so you can't turn 4G off without turning all mobile data off.

    Sent from my SGS II
    10-04-2011 07:36 AM
  10. timberga's Avatar
    Push email (when done properly) uses NO battery because the phone has to do nothing to receive the data. Pull (or polling) will because the phone has to manually check, which means it's going to actively use the data network.

    Also, this phone doesn't have an LTE radio, so you can't turn 4G off without turning all mobile data off.

    Sent from my SGS II
    When done/setup properly???? Care to elaborate?
    10-04-2011 10:02 AM
  11. pairenoid's Avatar
    hm how would it drain less battery if its constantly checking for updates vs if i manually check, i have the auto sync thing off and i thought thats what all guides said to do
    also i took ss's of my battery
    i fully charged b4 sleep, wake up 11 hours later and 20% gone, very dissapointed! especially compared to my first night

    my only guess is my low reception??
    here are 2 ss's please help and critique on what i can do
    10-04-2011 12:09 PM
  12. timberga's Avatar
    Bad signal will kill you....point blank.
    10-04-2011 12:15 PM
  13. runtohell121's Avatar
    How do I disable auto upload? It seems like my phone is uploading photos every time I take a new photo... or at least that's what my notification is saying.
    10-04-2011 12:16 PM
  14. pairenoid's Avatar
    if bad signal is killing me what can i do about it? besides moving because i have bad reception basically only in my house and work, but during the week thats all ill be at =/

    my old phone battery didnt drain this easily from bad reception

    infact my old phone had better reception at work..4 bars all time
    10-04-2011 12:44 PM
  15. pairenoid's Avatar
    i read apndroid is a solution to my prob but still wud like feedback
    10-04-2011 01:10 PM
  16. iSlackerz's Avatar
    comparable activity but your life is better

    my brightness is on lowest
    everything discussed is off
    only thing i can think of is that i have really bad reception all day most of the time, 1-2 bars at home and 2-3 at work
    it usually stays h+..that could be killing me? i mean my phone can technically last a full day on moderate use i feel but i dont want to charge the instant i get home, i mean this is only if i have work n come home

    i havent tested going out all night with my friends using n texting more =[ but i feel it would be almost if not dead by the time i come home at this rate
    Are you using an IM app? Those poll pretty regularly. I had one for a short while, but it was sucking down the mAh's like a porn star.

    If you average 3 bars that's decent signal and shouldn't affect your battery too bad. Less than that could make a difference but not too significantly. If you have wifi at work you should hop on that.
    10-04-2011 04:32 PM
  17. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    When done/setup properly???? Care to elaborate?
    That would be up to the service provider. For example, Gmail (obviously) does it correctly. Google has an API that can be used to provide push notifications, but it's up to the developer to use it.

    How do I disable auto upload? It seems like my phone is uploading photos every time I take a new photo... or at least that's what my notification is saying.
    Maybe it's Google+? If so you can change the settings for that so that it only does it when you're on wifi (that's what I do).

    if bad signal is killing me what can i do about it? besides moving because i have bad reception basically only in my house and work, but during the week thats all ill be at =/

    my old phone battery didnt drain this easily from bad reception

    infact my old phone had better reception at work..4 bars all time
    At night you can turn airplane mode on. That turns all radios off.

    Are you using an IM app? Those poll pretty regularly. I had one for a short while, but it was sucking down the mAh's like a porn star.

    If you average 3 bars that's decent signal and shouldn't affect your battery too bad. Less than that could make a difference but not too significantly. If you have wifi at work you should hop on that.
    Wifi is always better for battery life. And gtalk is the only IM client that I'm aware of that doesn't poll.
    10-04-2011 05:13 PM
  18. pairenoid's Avatar
    i dont use any im app
    i have gmail set up so i only know if i got new mail by updating, facebook set to refresh every 2 hours

    it says i have 1-2 bars at home, but it is 100% impossible to browse

    it says problem with the connection so i have to use wifi at home no matter what if i want to browse or do something that requires a connection which SUCKS! lol

    outside i can browse at the same speed

    i been testing all day and i noticed the drainage speed
    1% per few minutes when using zengo(sp?) to look for new wallpaper, i went from 54-49 in less than 20 minuets which is absurd
    2 % while playing pocket league story for less than 5 minutes
    so basically i notice it drains every few minutes 1% no matter what im doing

    or 1-2% per hour if its left doing absolutely nothing
    10-04-2011 05:14 PM
  19. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    i dont use any im app
    i have gmail set up so i only know if i got new mail by updating, facebook set to refresh every 2 hours

    it says i have 1-2 bars at home, but it is 100% impossible to browse

    it says problem with the connection so i have to use wifi at home no matter what if i want to browse or do something that requires a connection which SUCKS! lol

    outside i can browse at the same speed

    i been testing all day and i noticed the drainage speed
    1% per few minutes when using zengo(sp?) to look for new wallpaper, i went from 54-49 in less than 20 minuets which is absurd
    2 % while playing pocket league story for less than 5 minutes
    so basically i notice it drains every few minutes 1% no matter what im doing

    or 1-2% per hour if its left doing absolutely nothing
    That sounds about right, actually, give or take. When you're playing a game you're not only using the screen, but you're also pushing the CPU full tilt. Using wifi is good, though, so if it were me I wouldn't complain. I prefer to use it.

    Are you using the Gmail app, or the email app? I haven't looked at the settings, but I didn't even know you could turn off push for it.
    10-04-2011 05:27 PM
  20. glorifiedsins's Avatar
    Push does use battery because you always have an open connection to the net. If you have the data packets or wifi turned off and only turn back on to poll it uses less battery. And the guy that posted the ss's try turning off your data packets and see if that helps.
    10-04-2011 08:22 PM
  21. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    Push does use battery because you always have an open connection to the net. If you have the data packets or wifi turned off and only turn back on to poll it uses less battery. And the guy that posted the ss's try turning off your data packets and see if that helps.
    Having an open connection to the network doesn't mean it's sending any information over it. Push doesn't use any battery. I promise.

    Of course if you turn off data it's going to use less battery. If I turn my phone off completely it uses no battery at all.

    I feel like common sense should prevail here. Do less on your phone and your battery will last longer. Do more and it won't.
    10-04-2011 09:06 PM
  22. timberga's Avatar
    Having an open connection to the network doesn't mean it's sending any information over it. Push doesn't use any battery. I promise.

    Of course if you turn off data it's going to use less battery. If I turn my phone off completely it uses no battery at all.

    I feel like common sense should prevail here. Do less on your phone and your battery will last longer. Do more and it won't.
    Microsoft Exchange Push DEFINITELY uses more battery then POLLING the server. Where you getting your information from?
    10-04-2011 10:51 PM
  23. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    Microsoft Exchange Push DEFINITELY uses more battery then POLLING the server. Where you getting your information from?
    Then it's not pushing. Pushing requires the phone to do nothing. Polling is when the phone sends a query to the server and receives a response.

    So if Exchange uses more battery then polling something is messed up somewhere. The very nature of push (and why it was developed) was to 1) get you your information faster 2) save battery life by requiring the phone to do nothing and 3) save an unnecessary load on the network by only using it when there's something to actually send to the phone.

    That last one is probably why carriers like it so much. Could you imagine if all our Android phones had to poll Google's servers every minute (or more, or less, depending on the individual) and how much of a load that would be on the networks?
    10-04-2011 11:21 PM
  24. glorifiedsins's Avatar
    Having the open connection does use the battery. And it all really depends on how many emails you're getting as to whether poll or push is better. If you're constantly receiving new emails push will drain the crap out of your battery. And of course the open data is draining his battery. That's what his issue was...and most people don't have polling set to 1 minute. That's just assinine. Even in a workplace setting with constant emails 15 minute intervals or possibly even longer would suffice.(unless you're a stockbroker) I usually poll around every hour or so and I receive emails fairly regularly throughout the day.
    10-05-2011 01:08 AM
  25. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    Having the open connection does use the battery. And it all really depends on how many emails you're getting as to whether poll or push is better. If you're constantly receiving new emails push will drain the crap out of your battery. And of course the open data is draining his battery. That's what his issue was...and most people don't have polling set to 1 minute. That's just assinine. Even in a workplace setting with constant emails 15 minute intervals or possibly even longer would suffice.(unless you're a stockbroker) I usually poll around every hour or so and I receive emails fairly regularly throughout the day.
    I never said the open connection doesn't use the battery. I said push doesn't use it any more than when the phone is just sitting there. If nothing is getting pushed no data is being used. When you poll for email data gets used even if you have no new messages.

    Also, regardless of whether or not you poll or get the emailed push, you're still getting the same amount of email. Which is the same amount of data. So, please explain how that saves battery when you have to access the network just as much (technically just a wee bit more, since you had to send the request, too).

    Sent from my SGS II
    10-05-2011 02:22 AM
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