battery life drained like 2% over 7-8 hours?

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comparable activity but your life is better

my brightness is on lowest
everything discussed is off
only thing i can think of is that i have really bad reception all day most of the time, 1-2 bars at home and 2-3 at work
it usually stays h+..that could be killing me? i mean my phone can technically last a full day on moderate use i feel but i dont want to charge the instant i get home, i mean this is only if i have work n come home

i havent tested going out all night with my friends using n texting more =[ but i feel it would be almost if not dead by the time i come home at this rate

Are you using an IM app? Those poll pretty regularly. I had one for a short while, but it was sucking down the mAh's like a porn star.

If you average 3 bars that's decent signal and shouldn't affect your battery too bad. Less than that could make a difference but not too significantly. If you have wifi at work you should hop on that.
 

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When done/setup properly???? Care to elaborate?

That would be up to the service provider. For example, Gmail (obviously) does it correctly. Google has an API that can be used to provide push notifications, but it's up to the developer to use it.

How do I disable auto upload? It seems like my phone is uploading photos every time I take a new photo... or at least that's what my notification is saying.

Maybe it's Google+? If so you can change the settings for that so that it only does it when you're on wifi (that's what I do).

if bad signal is killing me what can i do about it? besides moving because i have bad reception basically only in my house and work, but during the week thats all ill be at =/

my old phone battery didnt drain this easily from bad reception

infact my old phone had better reception at work..4 bars all time

At night you can turn airplane mode on. That turns all radios off.

Are you using an IM app? Those poll pretty regularly. I had one for a short while, but it was sucking down the mAh's like a porn star.

If you average 3 bars that's decent signal and shouldn't affect your battery too bad. Less than that could make a difference but not too significantly. If you have wifi at work you should hop on that.

Wifi is always better for battery life. And gtalk is the only IM client that I'm aware of that doesn't poll.
 

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i dont use any im app
i have gmail set up so i only know if i got new mail by updating, facebook set to refresh every 2 hours

it says i have 1-2 bars at home, but it is 100% impossible to browse

it says problem with the connection so i have to use wifi at home no matter what if i want to browse or do something that requires a connection which SUCKS! lol

outside i can browse at the same speed

i been testing all day and i noticed the drainage speed
1% per few minutes when using zengo(sp?) to look for new wallpaper, i went from 54-49 in less than 20 minuets which is absurd
2 % while playing pocket league story for less than 5 minutes
so basically i notice it drains every few minutes 1% no matter what im doing

or 1-2% per hour if its left doing absolutely nothing
 

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i dont use any im app
i have gmail set up so i only know if i got new mail by updating, facebook set to refresh every 2 hours

it says i have 1-2 bars at home, but it is 100% impossible to browse

it says problem with the connection so i have to use wifi at home no matter what if i want to browse or do something that requires a connection which SUCKS! lol

outside i can browse at the same speed

i been testing all day and i noticed the drainage speed
1% per few minutes when using zengo(sp?) to look for new wallpaper, i went from 54-49 in less than 20 minuets which is absurd
2 % while playing pocket league story for less than 5 minutes
so basically i notice it drains every few minutes 1% no matter what im doing

or 1-2% per hour if its left doing absolutely nothing

That sounds about right, actually, give or take. When you're playing a game you're not only using the screen, but you're also pushing the CPU full tilt. Using wifi is good, though, so if it were me I wouldn't complain. I prefer to use it.

Are you using the Gmail app, or the email app? I haven't looked at the settings, but I didn't even know you could turn off push for it.
 

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Push does use battery because you always have an open connection to the net. If you have the data packets or wifi turned off and only turn back on to poll it uses less battery. And the guy that posted the ss's try turning off your data packets and see if that helps.
 

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Push does use battery because you always have an open connection to the net. If you have the data packets or wifi turned off and only turn back on to poll it uses less battery. And the guy that posted the ss's try turning off your data packets and see if that helps.

Having an open connection to the network doesn't mean it's sending any information over it. Push doesn't use any battery. I promise.

Of course if you turn off data it's going to use less battery. If I turn my phone off completely it uses no battery at all. :p

I feel like common sense should prevail here. Do less on your phone and your battery will last longer. Do more and it won't. :cool:
 
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Having an open connection to the network doesn't mean it's sending any information over it. Push doesn't use any battery. I promise.

Of course if you turn off data it's going to use less battery. If I turn my phone off completely it uses no battery at all. :p

I feel like common sense should prevail here. Do less on your phone and your battery will last longer. Do more and it won't. :cool:

Microsoft Exchange Push DEFINITELY uses more battery then POLLING the server. Where you getting your information from?
 

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Microsoft Exchange Push DEFINITELY uses more battery then POLLING the server. Where you getting your information from?

Then it's not pushing. Pushing requires the phone to do nothing. Polling is when the phone sends a query to the server and receives a response.

So if Exchange uses more battery then polling something is messed up somewhere. The very nature of push (and why it was developed) was to 1) get you your information faster 2) save battery life by requiring the phone to do nothing and 3) save an unnecessary load on the network by only using it when there's something to actually send to the phone.

That last one is probably why carriers like it so much. Could you imagine if all our Android phones had to poll Google's servers every minute (or more, or less, depending on the individual) and how much of a load that would be on the networks?
 

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Having the open connection does use the battery. And it all really depends on how many emails you're getting as to whether poll or push is better. If you're constantly receiving new emails push will drain the crap out of your battery. And of course the open data is draining his battery. That's what his issue was...and most people don't have polling set to 1 minute. That's just assinine. Even in a workplace setting with constant emails 15 minute intervals or possibly even longer would suffice.(unless you're a stockbroker) I usually poll around every hour or so and I receive emails fairly regularly throughout the day.
 
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Having the open connection does use the battery. And it all really depends on how many emails you're getting as to whether poll or push is better. If you're constantly receiving new emails push will drain the crap out of your battery. And of course the open data is draining his battery. That's what his issue was...and most people don't have polling set to 1 minute. That's just assinine. Even in a workplace setting with constant emails 15 minute intervals or possibly even longer would suffice.(unless you're a stockbroker) I usually poll around every hour or so and I receive emails fairly regularly throughout the day.

I never said the open connection doesn't use the battery. I said push doesn't use it any more than when the phone is just sitting there. If nothing is getting pushed no data is being used. When you poll for email data gets used even if you have no new messages.

Also, regardless of whether or not you poll or get the emailed push, you're still getting the same amount of email. Which is the same amount of data. So, please explain how that saves battery when you have to access the network just as much (technically just a wee bit more, since you had to send the request, too).

Sent from my SGS II
 

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Because push is intended to have a constant connection. Between poll intervals you can turn this off. And if you're turning your wifi/data packets off between pushes you might as well be polling.
 

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Because push is intended to have a constant connection. Between poll intervals you can turn this off. And if you're turning your wifi/data packets off between pushes you might as well be polling.

I think you're idea of what push is is a little off. Push is server side only. It's an API that Google has written so that the phone doesn't have to ask for an answer from the server.

I've noticed no difference in battery life after disabling sync for my Gmail (it's the only email I use).

Sent from my SGS II
 

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so i went to bed with everything turned off
apn
wifi
etc

100% charge, woke up 9 hours later 85%

:(

first night i only lose 3-5% with almost same settings im wondering if i have a faulty battery now
 

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can any one post their idle battery usage/reception/and settings?

i had everything off and i lose more than my first night so i think something is messed up
could it be that i dled a buncha apps? none are open or syncing

i check running processes and i see a bunch of stuff running that is not even on

like crime story(what does it mean running process if its not open). is this the life of an android user? i have to go to settings and manage every app i want off ? i open a game close it and it still runs so i gotta go here? not even task manager will do this for me?



i stopped some apps but they dont seem to be stopped, also
 

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Kevin, no offense, but I think you need to read up on the different techniques implemented for push e-mail. I don't know what GMAIL uses, but the most popular other method is via EXCHANGE. You aren't giving out truly accurate information. Here's some accurate EXCHANGE PUSH (google it) information vs Fetch/Polling:

"Technically push is only supposed to use bandwidth when the server tells it there is a new message available, however it must maintain a secure connection to the server, this connection is broken and re-established throughout the day so it ends up being almost constant whereas fetch only uses bandwidth at a specified polling interval."

So in essence, if you get a TON of e-mails, you will use more battery vs fetch.....however, if you only get a few e-mails a day push would end up better than fetch/polling.
 

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so i went to bed with everything turned off
apn
wifi
etc

100% charge, woke up 9 hours later 85%

:(

first night i only lose 3-5% with almost same settings im wondering if i have a faulty battery now

Your current numbers seem far more realistic than your first night numbers...
 

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Kevin, no offense, but I think you need to read up on the different techniques implemented for push e-mail. I don't know what GMAIL uses, but the most popular other method is via EXCHANGE. You aren't giving out truly accurate information. Here's some accurate EXCHANGE PUSH (google it) information vs Fetch/Polling:

"Technically push is only supposed to use bandwidth when the server tells it there is a new message available, however it must maintain a secure connection to the server, this connection is broken and re-established throughout the day so it ends up being almost constant whereas fetch only uses bandwidth at a specified polling interval."

So in essence, if you get a TON of e-mails, you will use more battery vs fetch.....however, if you only get a few e-mails a day push would end up better than fetch/polling.

I'm ok with being wrong, especially when information is presented to show it. I'm also not sure what implementation gmail uses, but I haven't noticed any difference in battery life with sync on vs off for gmail. So I guess my EXPERIENCE is that with gmail it doesn't make a difference.

And I could see Exchange being the most popular overall, but on Android it's probably gmail (since everyone is required to have one, and I'm sure 99% of people don't turn off sync).
 

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Thank you timber. For some reason I was unable to articulate what I was trying to say as eloquently as you did. Although I'm fairly confident I said the exact same thing but I guess it takes two voices of reason for some to believe.
 
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