11-02-2011 08:41 AM
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  1. tunie's Avatar
    I don't know if it's been mentioned in here, but I wanted to remind everyone about how to use navigation without using data. You can activate a cached copy of google maps via Labs and navigate with your data off. Just run your map, hit settings, select More, then Labs, and scroll down to pre-cache map area. Pressing on it activates it and then just follow the instructions on how to use it on your phone.

    If you already knew this, never mind:-) If you didn't, hope it helps:-)
    10-28-2011 07:50 PM
  2. omgabunny's Avatar
    Hey thanks! I sometimes navigate in areas without really good data coverage or EDGE so this will definitely come in handy. :3
    10-30-2011 03:59 PM
  3. sdmark's Avatar
    and you can precache multiple areas (I think each is 10 sq miles?). I've got all my normal travel areas cached
    10-30-2011 05:02 PM
  4. BugDad25's Avatar
    does anybody know if you have an area cached yet you have data access will the online maps, which might be more current, override

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    10-30-2011 06:07 PM
  5. tunie's Avatar
    does anybody know if you have an area cached yet you have data access will the online maps, which might be more current, override

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    Thanks for the thanks:-) I think, if you have data on, the active data will override the cached map area. I'm only guessing though. I'm thinking the active data map is the default. Let us know if you find that to be the case.
    10-30-2011 07:53 PM
  6. TwinSac's Avatar
    When I hit more all I see is the help tab and terms, privacy, notices tab. Do I need to do something to get the labs tab to show up?
    10-30-2011 10:43 PM
  7. tunie's Avatar
    That's odd. Is your data on? If you run the stock map app and go to settings, then More, Labs should be first on the list. If it's not there, quit the map app. Go to settings for your phone, then applications, then manage applications. Find maps on the list, press to open and hit clear data. Reboot your phone and try again. Let me know what happens.
    10-31-2011 12:15 AM
  8. tunie's Avatar
    Hey thanks! I sometimes navigate in areas without really good data coverage or EDGE so this will definitely come in handy. :3
    Thanks for the thanks! I have several cached copies of map areas where the data is really iffy and I use a cached copy for around town. Even though I'm on unlimited, ATT throttles me if I hit 10g. I haven't hit it yet, but try to keep it down using cached map areas. Glad it worked for you!
    10-31-2011 01:49 AM
  9. j-bo's Avatar
    I had this question last week. I emailed mapquest to see if they had an offline app in the works, they said, no. Google maps? No.

    I ended up with the trial version of SYGIC. I will be buying that as it has worked pretty dang good for me.

    Here is that thread on the subject as I looked at all of the offline apps available:

    http://forums.androidcentral.com/and...ive-users.html
    10-31-2011 10:15 AM
  10. tunie's Avatar
    I had this question last week. I emailed mapquest to see if they had an offline app in the works, they said, no. Google maps? No.

    I ended up with the trial version of SYGIC. I will be buying that as it has worked pretty dang good for me.

    Here is that thread on the subject as I looked at all of the offline apps available:

    http://forums.androidcentral.com/and...ive-users.html
    I hope that works well for you. I think the only difference is that google maps offline is free. I'm not sure why anyone would say google doesn't offer offline navigation when they do, but you can always check it out yourself to see if it will work for you.:-)
    10-31-2011 11:36 AM
  11. TwinSac's Avatar
    That's odd. Is your data on? If you run the stock map app and go to settings, then More, Labs should be first on the list. If it's not there, quit the map app. Go to settings for your phone, then applications, then manage applications. Find maps on the list, press to open and hit clear data. Reboot your phone and try again. Let me know what happens.
    I cleared the data, re-booted the phone and I still dont see the Labs tab. I have an update that I can uninstall but Im not sure what the update contained.
    10-31-2011 12:09 PM
  12. tunie's Avatar
    My pop-up under More shows as follows:

    Labs
    Switch Account
    Cache Settings
    Help
    Terms, Privacy & Notices

    I've updated and still see the menu above. Try going back to Manage Applications and this time, press on Clear Cache. That should do it...I hope:-)
    10-31-2011 12:27 PM
  13. Mr.Gadget's Avatar
    Do you need to have labs enabled on your main Google account? However, I thought Google Labs ceased operations October 17, 2011?
    10-31-2011 02:32 PM
  14. Mr.Gadget's Avatar
    Hum... I have the Labs option as well.
    I am on "Version 5.11.0 (#5110018) gmm-android-samsung"
    Menu - More -
    In order from the top I have:
    Labs
    Cache Settings
    Help
    Terms, Privacy & Notices
    About
    10-31-2011 02:36 PM
  15. j-bo's Avatar
    You still need to be online to start the navigation. So if you are out and about and decide to go somewhere, you'll need to get online to get started. No big deal if you have a signal though. Then turn off the data and head on your way.

    I'll see how the turn by turn is on my commute home. I'll especially take a different route to see how the re-routing is.

    Keep in mind, that pre-cache is beta and everything can be removed at any given time. Hopefully, this is there attempt at actually going off line and allowing you to download and store maps to your device or better yet, your memory card.

    The reason I chose SYGIC is because it worked just like my daughters stand alone garmin GPS. It is easy to use and never need to be online to use it. Some things you do need to be online for though, but not the turn by turn directions which I was mainly looking for.
    10-31-2011 02:57 PM
  16. tunie's Avatar
    Do you need to have labs enabled on your main Google account? However, I thought Google Labs ceased operations October 17, 2011?
    They discontinued some of the more obscure project labs, but gmail and maps labs are uneffected.

    I do access labs through gmail. I don't remember if I enabled it or not. This might do the trick for anyone who doesn't see Labs in their map settings!
    10-31-2011 03:03 PM
  17. tunie's Avatar
    You still need to be online to start the navigation
    My cached maps work fine without data. I thik they made this available specifically for times when there is no network access, so it would be terrible if we had to have data access in order to access data that's supposed to be accessible when we don't have data access. I just re-read that sentence! Wow...lol. When I travel to remote areas where I have no data access, I thank heaven for the cached map areas. They're stored in my maps cache and stay there until I clear them.
    10-31-2011 03:08 PM
  18. j-bo's Avatar
    Who knows.. maybe I'm not doing something right.

    I go to maps, settings, cache settings, pre-cached maps, select end point, then click on navigation symbol. It says... data connection lost if I'm offline. Once online, it will load up the directions. Once loaded, I turn off wifi. Of course, I'm not driving at work... so once off, I'll see how it works.
    10-31-2011 03:28 PM
  19. tunie's Avatar
    Try running your map with data off. Touch a part of the map you've cached. When the address popup comes up, press it. You'll have the option there to select the cached map. Let us know if this works for you. If not, we'll figure it out :-)

    I think when you go into cached maps and select navigation, it's using the active data map. When you open the map and just press a location in an area you cached, it's beginning navigation in the offline cached data, if that makes any sense at all! :-)

    This should work if you turn off all data under setting, network, mobile networks.
    10-31-2011 03:36 PM
  20. j-bo's Avatar
    Nope.. says "data connection lost" while trying to get "driving directions".

    Must turn online to get the driving directions.
    10-31-2011 03:46 PM
  21. tunie's Avatar
    Wifi is runs separate from your network data connection. If you turn off data in your network settings, then you are truly and completely, disconnected from data service. If you go to settings> Wireless and Network> Mobile Networks> Use Packet Data - deselect that.

    Make sure you've cached a map area before disconnecting your data service. To cache a map area, run your google map> settings> More> Labs> Press on Pre-cache map area and you'll see a green checkmark appear to the right of it with a notice that cached maps is enabled. Hit your back button on your phone and that will return you to the map. Now press and hold on an area of the map until you see a pop-up with an address. Long press on the pop-up containing the address and a screen will appear with different options. The option at the bottom is Pre-cache map area. Press on that and it will begin to download a 10 mile square radius around the location you initially pressed on. Now, if you want directions to anywhere in the area that was cached, it will work without a data connection.

    If you have any trouble with this, let us know:-)
    10-31-2011 05:35 PM
  22. TwinSac's Avatar
    I finally found the Labs tab. I have always used this app with the "driving directions" enabled. Just as a normal map I can now access the Labs tab. While getting Voice directions I only have access to: Directions List, Set Destination, Help, Terms, Privacy and Notices.

    Now I have some experimenting to do. This will be helpful going camping each summer in the Sierras.
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    10-31-2011 05:54 PM
  23. tunie's Avatar
    I finally found the Labs tab. I have always used this app with the "driving directions" enabled. Just as a normal map I can now access the Labs tab. While getting Voice directions I only have access to: Directions List, Set Destination, Help, Terms, Privacy and Notices.

    Now I have some experimenting to do. This will be helpful going camping each summer in the Sierras.
    That's awesome! I would have never figured that one out! Thanks for posting the solution. I'm sure it's going to help a lot of people out there:-)
    10-31-2011 06:26 PM
  24. j-bo's Avatar
    Wifi is runs separate from your network data connection. If you turn off data in your network settings, then you are truly and completely, disconnected from data service. If you go to settings> Wireless and Network> Mobile Networks> Use Packet Data - deselect that.

    Make sure you've cached a map area before disconnecting your data service. To cache a map area, run your google map> settings> More> Labs> Press on Pre-cache map area and you'll see a green checkmark appear to the right of it with a notice that cached maps is enabled. Hit your back button on your phone and that will return you to the map. Now press and hold on an area of the map until you see a pop-up with an address. Long press on the pop-up containing the address and a screen will appear with different options. The option at the bottom is Pre-cache map area. Press on that and it will begin to download a 10 mile square radius around the location you initially pressed on. Now, if you want directions to anywhere in the area that was cached, it will work without a data connection.

    If you have any trouble with this, let us know:-)
    It will only load directions while you are online. If you already have a pre-cached map, you still have to be online to load the directions. Once the directions are loaded, then you can go offline.

    I cannot get the directions to load while offline, therefore to be able to use navigation.

    If you have no signal, you cannot pre-cache maps, so if you are out and about and happen to get lost...you're SOL until you can get a signal.

    It is fine for pre-planning trips though and a viable option for that, especially FREE.

    I think I'll stick with SYGIC. It was only $15 and it uses TomTom maps and has lifetime updates for free.
    11-01-2011 09:16 AM
  25. tunie's Avatar
    It will only load directions while you are online. If you already have a pre-cached map, you still have to be online to load the directions. Once the directions are loaded, then you can go offline.

    I cannot get the directions to load while offline, therefore to be able to use navigation.
    Really odd that you can't access directions offline on a pre-cached map area because it works fine for me. I'm at a loss here, but I'm glad you found something that meets your needs. That's the most important thing! :-)
    11-01-2011 11:15 AM
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