11-05-2011 04:01 PM
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  1. tunie's Avatar
    A 90 day exchange period?!? How did u manage that?
    Costco, and I get a brand new phone with no restocking fee! Gotta love Costco. I started with the Atrix, but it was doing weird things. Exchanged for Infuse, which I loved, but screen pixelation while browsing drove me crazy. Got the SGS2 and though I was sad to give up my 4.5" display, the resolution on the S2 makes up for it. It was nice to be able to make sure the phone I chose was going to work for me instead of being stuck with a glitchy phone.
    11-01-2011 07:49 AM
  2. timberga's Avatar
    Costco, and I get a brand new phone with no restocking fee! Gotta love Costco. I started with the Atrix, but it was doing weird things. Exchanged for Infuse, which I loved, but screen pixelation while browsing drove me crazy. Got the SGS2 and though I was sad to give up my 4.5" display, the resolution on the S2 makes up for it. It was nice to be able to make sure the phone I chose was going to work for me instead of being stuck with a glitchy phone.
    You are exactly the kind of customer Costco does NOT want.

    All Android phones are buggy to a certain extent....you will never find a "perfect" one.
    11-01-2011 08:36 AM
  3. ricktat's Avatar
    You are exactly the kind of customer Costco does NOT want.

    All Android phones are buggy to a certain extent....you will never find a "perfect" one.
    Thats not very nice at all.
    He is just following the policy that Costco has in place.
    He may have 47 cats and buys 500 pounds of cat food a week from Costco and they love him. Maybe he has VIP status there and his own parking spot.
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    11-01-2011 08:54 AM
  4. Emcee's Avatar
    Thats not very nice at all.
    He is just following the policy that Costco has in place.
    He may have 47 cats and buys 500 pounds of cat food a week from Costco and they love him. Maybe he has VIP status there and his own parking spot.
    Maybe he works in the food court.
    11-01-2011 09:53 AM
  5. jedah's Avatar
    It has a faster 1.5 ghz processer. Lte is being released to my area in DC on launch day. I'm pretty stoked. This or the HTC Vivid? hmm...

    Sent from my MB860 using Tapatalk
    I wouldn't say 1.5Ghz is necessarily faster. The 1.2Ghz Exynos has already been shown to match or beat T-Mo's version w/ a 1.5 Ghz processor (Qualcomm?).
    11-01-2011 12:22 PM
  6. MannyZ28's Avatar
    I wouldn't say 1.5Ghz is necessarily faster. The 1.2Ghz Exynos has already been shown to match or beat T-Mo's version w/ a 1.5 Ghz processor (Qualcomm?).
    Yes, it is the same processor that's in the T-Mobile version, it's basically the same that's in the HTC Flyer tablet, and in the Evo 3d and HTC Sensation, just clocked a bit faster. Do some looking around on YouTube and you will find comparison videos with the T-Mobile version, the GS2 with Exynos is faster.
    11-01-2011 12:53 PM
  7. toneofark's Avatar
    No LTE in my area yet, so it's not worth the trouble. Besides, I love my GSII.
    11-01-2011 01:02 PM
  8. tunie's Avatar
    You are exactly the kind of customer Costco does NOT want.

    All Android phones are buggy to a certain extent....you will never find a "perfect" one.
    Hmm...maybe you should tell them that. The way they explained it to me was, if -anything- is wrong with your phone, you may return it, or exchange it within 90 days. The Atrix I picked up first was on a consistent reboot. They played with it, but couldn't fix it so offered me another or an entirely different phone. I opted for the Infuse, not wanting to risk another schizophrenic Atrix (though I loved the phone when it worked). The Infuse developed a pixelation issue while web browsing. It became worse and worse over the 2.5 months I had it and both Samsung and AT&T said they weren't anticipating a fix. Costco was aware of the issue and offered me a new Infuse or the S2. After researching a bit, I couldn't find anything majorly wrong with the S2, so I opted to take it.

    Now, I don't owe you any explanations but, due to your lack of social decency, I felt I should respond. I have exchanged exactly one item to Costco in the last 15 years of shopping there. Their policy is to protect good customers like me from being stuck with a phone that, due to malfunctioning hardware or software, is difficult to use.

    Before you attack a very nice woman like me, I would appreciate being given the benefit of the doubt and, it doesn't hurt to read the posts before you respond.

    Thank you for your time.
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    11-01-2011 06:47 PM
  9. tunie's Avatar
    Maybe he works in the food court.

    ROFL!:-)
    11-01-2011 06:50 PM
  10. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    Yes, it is the same processor that's in the T-Mobile version, it's basically the same that's in the HTC Flyer tablet, and in the Evo 3d and HTC Sensation, just clocked a bit faster. Do some looking around on YouTube and you will find comparison videos with the T-Mobile version, the GS2 with Exynos is faster.
    The Flyer is a single core Snapdragon, not dual core. According to gbhil (Jerry Hildenbrand) the T-Mo SGSII feels just as fast as the other SGSII's. No lag. I would expect the Skyrocket to be the same way.
    11-01-2011 09:28 PM
  11. SteveISU's Avatar
    Anyone use samsung and HTC? Never used HTC, but I'm curious how the compare from a user standpoint, not just specs.


    Sent from my iPhone 4s using Tapatalk
    11-01-2011 10:31 PM
  12. timberga's Avatar
    Hmm...maybe you should tell them that. The way they explained it to me was, if -anything- is wrong with your phone, you may return it, or exchange it within 90 days. The Atrix I picked up first was on a consistent reboot. They played with it, but couldn't fix it so offered me another or an entirely different phone. I opted for the Infuse, not wanting to risk another schizophrenic Atrix (though I loved the phone when it worked). The Infuse developed a pixelation issue while web browsing. It became worse and worse over the 2.5 months I had it and both Samsung and AT&T said they weren't anticipating a fix. Costco was aware of the issue and offered me a new Infuse or the S2. After researching a bit, I couldn't find anything majorly wrong with the S2, so I opted to take it.

    Now, I don't owe you any explanations but, due to your lack of social decency, I felt I should respond. I have exchanged exactly one item to Costco in the last 15 years of shopping there. Their policy is to protect good customers like me from being stuck with a phone that, due to malfunctioning hardware or software, is difficult to use.

    Before you attack a very nice woman like me, I would appreciate being given the benefit of the doubt and, it doesn't hurt to read the posts before you respond.

    Thank you for your time.
    You are more than welcome to respond, that's what makes the internet great. I read your other "Infuse" posts about pixelation and a browser fixing the issue for you, but I guess that wasn't enough maybe...or you just wanted to exchange and get the latest and greatest maybe (just read your other posts). I might have been a bit harsh, but I don't think the post I'm quoting above is 100% bible either!

    In the end, after 4 phones, you ended up with the right one, thats all that matters.
    11-01-2011 11:52 PM
  13. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    Anyone use samsung and HTC? Never used HTC, but I'm curious how the compare from a user standpoint, not just specs.


    Sent from my iPhone 4s using Tapatalk
    It's been too long since I've used HTC. I haven't used any of the newer ones. I can say that build quality is typically pretty good, with high quality materials. The best thing to do would be to go to a store and see them both. The Vivid doesn't appear to be a unibody design like most of the other new HTC phones.

    The display seems to be a trade off. You get the awesome contrast and color of SAMOLED+, or the extra resolution of qHD (and it'll probably still look really good, too).

    Also, given the clockspeed the Samsung will probably be a little faster in daily use.
    11-02-2011 10:29 AM
  14. SteveISU's Avatar
    It's been too long since I've used HTC. I haven't used any of the newer ones. I can say that build quality is typically pretty good, with high quality materials. The best thing to do would be to go to a store and see them both. The Vivid doesn't appear to be a unibody design like most of the other new HTC phones.

    The display seems to be a trade off. You get the awesome contrast and color of SAMOLED+, or the extra resolution of qHD (and it'll probably still look really good, too).

    Also, given the clockspeed the Samsung will probably be a little faster in daily use.

    Gotcha thanks! I plan to go check them out, was just curious if anyone had any experience with the current gens UI on both. Not sure I like the HTC capacitive buttons and then the 2nd set of buttons for phone, ect. Looks redundant to me.
    11-02-2011 10:36 AM
  15. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    Gotcha thanks! I plan to go check them out, was just curious if anyone had any experience with the current gens UI on both. Not sure I like the HTC capacitive buttons and then the 2nd set of buttons for phone, ect. Looks redundant to me.
    I did use a Sense 3.0 Rom on my Inspire. It was nice and ran really well on that phone. It seems that with each phone release it gets better (as in smoother). I played with an Evo 3D and wasn't impressed. Then i played with a Sensation and it was night and day. The Sensation ran better even though the hardware is the same. From what I hear the phones released after that are even better.

    The social integration is pretty equal IMO, but I do like Touchwiz dialer/contact app better. And I personally like dark themes, so it having a lot of black backgrounds (takes advantage of Amoled for batter savings) plays to my personal taste.

    The lockscreen on Sense 3.0 is awesome, though, and is easily worth the price of admission. Though, admittedly, you can get similar functionality with certain apps.
    11-02-2011 11:02 AM
  16. Shermdiggity's Avatar
    To the original poster, I feel your pain man!! Here are my thoughts:

    I was one of those who got the SGSII on AT&T on October 2nd. In fact, i was like second in line....still mad that other person beat me!

    Anyway, I'm very happy with my SGSII. I am though, quite ticked off at AT&T for announcing an upgraded model of the phone within a month of the previous one hitting the market. Normally, I'm not the guy to chase the next phone with better specs. However, the timing on this one was 29 days by my count, it is an upgrade of the same model, and it is on the same carrier. That is a lot to ignore.

    Some are saying, "I don't have LTE in my area so I don't care" or "LTE is gonna kill the battery". For me, I only buy a phone every 18-24 months, so I want to feel good that the tech in my phone is going to last and be relevant during that timeframe. My area doesn't have LTE now, but it will get it within a reasonable amount of time....plus I travel a bit to the cities that either have or will soon have LTE. In addition, we don't know for sure that "LTE is gonna kill the battery" at AT&T. They've said multiple times their LTE phones will work differently than those of Verizon which require powering 2 independent radios, using what they're coining as "circuit switch fall back" technology. So, with the additional battery capacity of 1850 vs. 1600 and this new technology, I'm not sure that we can say for sure that "LTE is gonna kill the battery".

    The next thing is the processor. Again, I love my SGSII with its Exynos chip. That said, if the SGSII Skyrocket has, as assumed the 1.5 Ghz Snapdragon processor, will I really notice a difference in real-world usage? I dunno. If somebody has a definitive example of real-world usage being worse on the 1.5Ghz processor than the 1.2 Exynos, please let me know....seriously, I'm really curious and seeking information here.

    Lastly, there is the size....4.5 vs. 4.3. Right now, 4.3 seems perfect for me. However, if the case of the 4.5 isn't appreciably bigger and they've been able to increase the screen size without enlarging the case much, I may not really feel that the phone is bigger. If this is true, then I may have a winner.

    While I can't "future proof" my phone, I really do want to give myself the highest probability of using a phone for the 18-24 months that isn't a dinosaur and will serve my needs. I'll be in the store on Sunday playing around with the new phone trying to figure this out.

    Anybody have any other thoughts? What should I do? Help a brotha out, please!
    11-02-2011 01:08 PM
  17. tunie's Avatar
    As so many have said, there's always another newer, faster, more powerful phone around the corner. I loved my Infuse for the screen size and speed. It was good enough for me, but for a few issues. Now that I have the S2, unless something goes horribly wrong with it, I can't imagine needing anything faster or more robust. I expect the screen on the Skyrocket to be similar to the Infuse; larger screen, lower resolution, but it was a gorgeous screen, nevertheless. The smaller S2 has better resolution which really shows up when I'm looking at pictures I've taken, but the difference is negligible, to me anyway. Performance wise, just as a mod told me once, I won't miss the larger screen when I experience the power of the S2 and he was absolutely right. It really broke my heart turning in my Infuse.

    I only upgrade my phone about every 2-3 years, if that (had an LG for 5 years!), so I appreciate when my phone can carry me through. I think the S2 will carry anyone through the next 2-3 years but, it depends on what you need. The line-up of devices being released over the next 6 months is incredible. You might just have to pick one that works for you and never look back:-) For me, it's the S2, but I've never been one for chasing technology (LG for 5 years, BB Curve 4 years). I guess I'm pretty easy to impress
    11-02-2011 03:37 PM
  18. sepherous's Avatar
    As so many have said, there's always another newer, faster, more powerful phone around the corner. I loved my Infuse for the screen size and speed. It was good enough for me, but for a few issues. Now that I have the S2, unless something goes horribly wrong with it, I can't imagine needing anything faster or more robust. I expect the screen on the Skyrocket to be similar to the Infuse; larger screen, lower resolution, but it was a gorgeous screen, nevertheless. The smaller S2 has better resolution which really shows up when I'm looking at pictures I've taken, but the difference is negligible, to me anyway. Performance wise, just as a mod told me once, I won't miss the larger screen when I experience the power of the S2 and he was absolutely right. It really broke my heart turning in my Infuse.

    I only upgrade my phone about every 2-3 years, if that (had an LG for 5 years!), so I appreciate when my phone can carry me through. I think the S2 will carry anyone through the next 2-3 years but, it depends on what you need. The line-up of devices being released over the next 6 months is incredible. You might just have to pick one that works for you and never look back:-) For me, it's the S2, but I've never been one for chasing technology (LG for 5 years, BB Curve 4 years). I guess I'm pretty easy to impress
    you dont owe him an explanation its pretty clear he's being a jerk. Its not even any of his business if u return something 1000 times. who the eff cares. They have a policy in place to ensure customers are happy and return to their store. you go ahead and return the sgs2 if u hate it and get the friggin skyrocket.it helps everyone on this forum if you encounter a problem with a phone and let us know about it so if someone else is considering the phone they too know about an issue your having.
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    11-02-2011 05:28 PM
  19. jsntrenkler's Avatar
    I don't think the skyrocket is a upgrade for most of us. Sure if you live in a LTE market it will have its advantages. Aside from that you get a slightly larger screen that is the same resolution and you get a snapdragon processor that isn't faster in the real world. I feel good about my purchase, this is a great phone.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I777 using Tapatalk
    11-02-2011 05:53 PM
  20. timberga's Avatar
    you dont owe him an explanation its pretty clear he's being a jerk. Its not even any of his business if u return something 1000 times. who the eff cares. They have a policy in place to ensure customers are happy and return to their store. you go ahead and return the sgs2 if u hate it and get the friggin skyrocket.it helps everyone on this forum if you encounter a problem with a phone and let us know about it so if someone else is considering the phone they too know about an issue your having.
    I never asked any questions or for any clarification. Anyhow, like I said at the end, "just get the phone you want and stick with it"....every phone will have its quirks.....etc.....if you want a polished experience go iOS or Windows Phone......
    11-02-2011 09:46 PM
  21. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    Just to give this some perspective (and to hopefully stop the bickering) at least this phone was announced before the return policy was up for the early adopters. Imagine how mad all of you would be if it was announced 31 days after the SGS II was released.
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    11-02-2011 09:55 PM
  22. SteveISU's Avatar
    Plan to check this out as I live in one of the LTE towns (Chicago) and then wait a week or two to get the initial reactions.
    11-02-2011 10:15 PM
  23. dmnall's Avatar
    Look at the reviews of the T-mobile version of the gs2 and a lot are saying compared to the sprint and att versions, the t-mobile version is having trouble keeping up with the 1.2 ghz exynos processor and the 3d gaming is less because of the gpu, other then having the lte, and .2 inch larger screen, I see the phone being more then a downgrade besides lte. I could return my i777 for this new one since I did not get it until October 11. If it would have had a higher clocked exynos processor, then I could see getting the skyrocket but even my area does not have lte and why get it when by the time the sgs3 comes out, lte will be available in more areas and hopefully by the time I can upgrade again, lte will be pretty standard.

    HTH,
    Charlie
    11-04-2011 04:37 PM
  24. j510's Avatar
    Ok this is how I seeit. It's basically:

    a) Do you want the OG SGSII (closest to International SGSII) with fast processor speeds (Exynos).

    or

    b) Do you want the Tmobile variant (AT&T Skyrocket LTE) with AT&T network. (thats all it really is if you think about it)
    11-04-2011 05:08 PM
  25. ChrisM47's Avatar
    I live in an LTE Area and still after doing the research I can't downgrade my phone like that lol. I'll keep my OG SGSII
    11-04-2011 09:27 PM
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