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  1. pilsbury's Avatar
    I'm only a couple of weeks in with this Inspire, so forgive my noobness. I have a high dollar Linksys router about 30 feet away from my living room, where i use my HTC 90% of the time. My Dell Studio and iPhone 4 use this router and have four bars in signal strength. My Inspire only has one, very seldom two bars. Can anyone steer me in the right direction of an app or tweak to maximize my wifi signal strength? Everyone in the house uses the same router, and this is by far the poorest signal strength.
    07-10-2011 04:51 PM
  2. repligator's Avatar
    When you say bars do you mean the radiowave (H+, E, G, 4G) cellular network signal with five stepwise bars, or the microwave quadrantal (wavelike) wifi icon with one dot and three concentric arcs?
    07-10-2011 06:23 PM
  3. RoboWarrior's Avatar
    He said wifi which is the microwave quadrantal (no whose the noob now XD). I know when you cover the top-left corner of the phone the signals decreases. This is a common feature of MOST htc devices (hd2, evo, etc).
    07-10-2011 06:50 PM
  4. modset777's Avatar
    He's talkiong about the wif signal bars, Are you rooted by chance? Because I've noticed different ROMs for some reason get different wifi strength.
    07-10-2011 06:51 PM
  5. fernandezhjr's Avatar
    I'm not sure about your Dell Studio, but I know the iPhone is wireless-g. The Inspire is wireless-n, although backwards compatible. What about your router? When you say high dollar, I assume it is wireless-n. How do you have the router configured? I have a wireless-n router, but also have g devices I need to run off of it. I have the router setup in a backwards compatible mode, so I am forced to use tkip+aes security. Have you tried switching channels? Wireless-n is more susceptible to interference and does not penetrate walls as well as wireless-g.

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    07-10-2011 07:28 PM
  6. pilsbury's Avatar
    Yes I have the wireless N router, I forget the model number, but it has two physical movable antennas. How exactly do I configure this router for my needs-3 iphones, 1 Inspire and my laptop? Thanks for your responses.
    07-10-2011 07:56 PM
  7. pilsbury's Avatar
    He's talkiong about the wif signal bars, Are you rooted by chance? Because I've noticed different ROMs for some reason get different wifi strength.
    Yes, I'm speaking of the wifi signal strength bars, and no, I'm not rooted.
    07-10-2011 07:58 PM
  8. pilsbury's Avatar
    It's a Linksys E2100L
    07-10-2011 08:10 PM
  9. fernandezhjr's Avatar
    Basically, you first want to make sure it is configured properly. My router is a Netgear. Does the signal improve as you walk closer to the router? Stand about five feet infront of the router, wait a few minutes, and then go to the wireless settings on your phone and tap on the connection name. A box should pop up. What is your signal strength, speed, and security type?

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    07-10-2011 08:17 PM
  10. pilsbury's Avatar
    speed 19 mbps
    channel 1
    signal strength poor
    security wpa/wpa2 psk this is in the living room

    In the room with the router signal strength is excellent. 61 Mbps. About 30 ft away, LOL.
    07-10-2011 08:29 PM
  11. fernandezhjr's Avatar
    speed 19 mbps
    channel 1
    signal strength poor
    security wpa/wpa2 psk this is in the living room

    In the room with the router signal strength is excellent. 61 Mbps. About 30 ft away, LOL.
    Based on the security used, you appear to be in a proper backwards compatible configuration. In this configuration, the highest speed you will get with the Inspire is 65mbps. You could try switching the channel to 6 and then 11 to see if either helps, but that is not likely. I had the exact same problem as you because I had my router in a room in an extreme corner of my home. With my previous router, which was strictly wireless-b/g, I didn't have an issue. It wasn't until that router went out and I bought my wireless-n router that I started having an issue. I had to run a cable to relocate my cable modem and router to the living room, but once I did this, my issue went completely away. As I previously stated, with wireless-n, location is more critical. Having walls between your thirty feet would only compound the issue. It is still possible that you may have a source of interference in your home that could be causing the issue. In my case, I could not locate such a source. Although, I was suspicious of the digital meter outside my home that was backside of the router. The meter itself would not cause interference, but they do have a wireless chip that tries to communicate with a thermostat and appliances that have a similiar chip. You may have some source of interference or it may be strictly a location issue.

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    07-10-2011 09:19 PM
  12. pilsbury's Avatar
    Based on the security used, you appear to be in a proper backwards compatible configuration. In this configuration, the highest speed you will get with the Inspire is 65mbps. You could try switching the channel to 6 and then 11 to see if either helps, but that is not likely. I had the exact same problem as you because I had my router in a room in an extreme corner of my home. With my previous router, which was strictly wireless-b/g, I didn't have an issue. It wasn't until that router went out and I bought my wireless-n router that I started having an issue. I had to run a cable to relocate my cable modem and router to the living room, but once I did this, my issue went completely away. As I previously stated, with wireless-n, location is more critical. Having walls between your thirty feet would only compound the issue. It is still possible that you may have a source of interference in your home that could be causing the issue. In my case, I could not locate such a source. Although, I was suspicious of the digital meter outside my home that was backside of the router. The meter itself would not cause interference, but they do have a wireless chip that tries to communicate with a thermostat and appliances that have a similiar chip. You may have some source of interference or it may be strictly a location issue.

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    OK. Hey I appreciate all your help. I will get some longer cables and put the router in the room I'm in. Thanks again!
    07-11-2011 04:25 AM
  13. pilsbury's Avatar
    Just for the heck of it I may try switching channels as you suggested. could you tell me how to do that?
    07-11-2011 05:13 AM
  14. repligator's Avatar
    You need to access your router settings via one of your computers connected to the router (preferably a laptop or desktop wired to it via ethernet cable) but it can be done from one of the phones as well

    Usually all you need to do is type in http://192.168.2.1 in the url of the browser of your choice. (The subnet adress could be a little different--check your Linksys manual)

    Hopefully you are not like my mother in law who has a password protected router but cannot remember the password. The default is usually admin with no password (blank). Would be a good time to set up a password if you havent already--Just make sure to write it down and keep it in a safe place.

    Another thing you can try within the Inspire is Menu/Settings/Wireless & networks/Wi-Fi settings/ Menu/Advanced and check the Best Wi-Fi performance box.

    Do you have a landline remote phone nearby? Unless you are on the DECT6.0 standard this can totally interfere with your signal as they all run typically on the 2.4Ghz Microwave frequency. Your microwave oven (when runnning) can cause interference as well.

    Beyond just the channel setting in your router, try changing the wireless setting to WirelessG only. This could alleviate some intereference issues and will still allow all devices to connect.


    He said wifi which is the microwave quadrantal (no whose the noob now XD).
    I never assume that someone does or does not know something. Some people use the term wi-fi loosely to mean any signal, much like many people use the term online to mean on the computer wether or not they are connected to the interwebs.
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    07-11-2011 06:55 AM
  15. pilsbury's Avatar
    Thanks. I'll try that. My best performance box is checked and my router is pw protected. I appreciate the help.
    07-11-2011 08:02 AM
  16. repligator's Avatar
    Thanks. I'll try that. My best performance box is checked and my router is pw protected. I appreciate the help.
    Just a quick note, sorry if you are already aware of this, but your WPA/WPA2 PSK access password is different from your router access password. Typically when you run through the WPA security settings when you install the router, you set a network access password (guest and full) but it does not typically prompt you to password protect the router as well. (Huge numbers of people have routers that can be accessed with no password)

    Your modem has a separate password and firewall also (if they are separate units).

    I have an easy to remember alphanumeric guest password for my wifi router for internet access, and a strong password for full access because I use my destop like a server with all my music and such in shared folders.

    My modem and router are also firewall enabled and password protected.
    07-11-2011 08:19 AM
  17. fernandezhjr's Avatar
    If leaving the password blank doesn't work, try using the word password. I didn't mention trying using a b/g only setup because with my Netgear router it is not allowed. I can only do n or n with backward compatibility. I assumed yours would be the same. If you can do it give it a shot. When I had my Inspire on wireless-g, I believe it was connecting around 50mbps. This is still good, however, if you have any other wireless-n devices, they will also be connecting at a slower speed.

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    07-11-2011 08:44 AM
  18. repligator's Avatar
    Actually Linksys is http://192.168.1.1
    07-11-2011 11:06 AM
  19. repligator's Avatar
    Also

    When you try to log into the browser-based utility, your
    password does not work.
    Your wireless security password also serves as the
    browser‑based utility’s login password. To see this
    password:
    1. Open Cisco Connect.
    2. On the main menu, click Router settings.
    3. The Password is displayed on the left side of the screen.


    Looks like the newer draft-n routers are getting better at protecting people from themselves.

    Sorry if this is overkill but I am having a slow day at work and bored out of my skull.
    07-11-2011 11:32 AM
  20. pilsbury's Avatar
    Haha, no overkill. I'm pretty proficient with smartphones, but routers is a different story-I appreciate all the help gents!
    07-11-2011 02:05 PM
  21. pilsbury's Avatar
    OK, I did a battery change (charged my extended battery and put the stock back in), which of course did a hard reboot. I now have 58 mbps sitting in my same chair, router in the same place it was yesterday when all i had was 19 mbps. Could it have been the hard reboot? Nothing else changed. LOL, I thought I left battery pulls behind with my 9700 and Torch.
    07-11-2011 07:45 PM
  22. repligator's Avatar
    Failed to mention this earlier because I got so excited about the router, but signal strength and speed are not the necessarily tightly correlated. You can get excellent strength with low speed and vice versa. Both metrics can change independent of each other.

    Low speed with high signal results in slow but reliable data transfer and connection.
    High speed with low signal results in packet loss and dropped or poor connection.

    Another thing I have noticed with the inspire its that the wifi status is very laggy. It routinely shows some portion of wifi strength in the status bar long after I have left the range of a hotspot.

    While I seldom question the positive results of a good reboot, in this case they could be spurious. The only way you would know for sure is to check transfer speeds by transferring the same file to multiple phones at the same location over your internal wifi network. Using an entire mp3 album or small video would be good.

    I also recommend trying the free speedtest.net app
    07-11-2011 09:23 PM
  23. pilsbury's Avatar
    OK, very valid points. If, when I put back in the extended battery, my reception drops back down, then something weird is going on. LOL. Anyone know a good exorcist? Thanks again for your help.
    07-11-2011 09:29 PM
  24. pilsbury's Avatar
    I did fail to add that I have this thing encased in a Seidio Rugged case (3 layers). I'm sure this is not helping my reception, but I have the same case on my i4 with no issues.
    07-11-2011 09:31 PM
  25. fernandezhjr's Avatar
    My signal and speed would bounce at times,even sitting in the same spot. I tried everything with the phone and the router. Made a similiar comment like you, about the router or phone being possessed. LoL. I was fixing to take the router back, when I decide to go ahead and move it, since I figured I really needed to do it anyways. Since I have moved it , it has been like night and day. I can even go to the location where the router was previously located and keep a good strong connection. You have a bad location or you have some interference.

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    07-11-2011 10:15 PM
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