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  1. mackie99's Avatar
    Yes the iPhone 4 does have a Micro Sim. You will need to get a new sim when you get your HTC iNspire as I did.
    No, you do not need to get a new sim. I'm using my iPhone 4 sim with an adapter in my Inspire. The iPhone data plan works with the Inspire.
    03-05-2011 09:10 PM
  2. shaee's Avatar
    No, you do not need to get a new sim. I'm using my iPhone 4 sim with an adapter in my Inspire. The iPhone data plan works with the Inspire.
    Yep it works, but when the backhaul is implemented you'll need the new sim to get the hspa +speeds. Per AT&T.

    I walked in the store, they said I needed the new sim which was unavailable during launch.
    03-06-2011 02:58 PM
  3. netposer's Avatar
    Yep it works, but when the backhaul is implemented you'll need the new sim to get the hspa +speeds. Per AT&T.

    I walked in the store, they said I needed the new sim which was unavailable during launch.
    The folks at the store were wrong. I was getting those new SIM cards a month before the launch of the Inspire.
    03-06-2011 06:15 PM
  4. shaee's Avatar
    The folks at the store were wrong. I was getting those new SIM cards a month before the launch of the Inspire.
    The manager had an internal memo from ATT Corp. that they need to change the sims.
    03-06-2011 09:54 PM
  5. vdub12's Avatar
    I ordered my inspire on Thursday and was told by two separate representatives that I could not keep my unlimited data plan and had to chose a different one.

    They said its because the unlimited plan is a 3G plan and is not available in a 4G plan and that the inspire required a 4G plan.
    03-06-2011 10:20 PM
  6. shaee's Avatar
    I ordered my inspire on Thursday and was told by two separate representatives that I could not keep my unlimited data plan and had to chose a different one.

    They said its because the unlimited plan is a 3G plan and is not available in a 4G plan and that the inspire required a 4G plan.

    They lied or didn't know what they were talking about. You can keep your unlimited but will need to change it to "Smartphone personal Unlimited", it has a different code in their system.

    I came from a Blackberry and that's what they did. Search these forms and internet, you can keep the unlimited.
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    03-07-2011 01:23 AM
  7. Droid800's Avatar
    The manager had an internal memo from ATT Corp. that they need to change the sims.
    Bullhockey. There is no difference whatsoever between the sim cards beside the design on the front. You could use a 3G sim in any of their "4G" phones, and you'd still get the same speeds.

    If they are requiring a new sim, it has nothing to do with the network.
    03-07-2011 01:47 AM
  8. shaee's Avatar
    Bullhockey. There is no difference whatsoever between the sim cards beside the design on the front. You could use a 3G sim in any of their "4G" phones, and you'd still get the same speeds.

    If they are requiring a new sim, it has nothing to do with the network.
    Same speed for now, but the 3G sim is not capable of the HSPA + speeds.
    Are you saying you have a 3G sim and getting HSPA + ?

    Hey I didn't write the memo, ATT did.
    03-07-2011 11:02 AM
  9. NativeTxn's Avatar
    Same speed for now, but the 3G sim is not capable of the HSPA + speeds.
    Are you saying you have a 3G sim and getting HSPA + ?

    Hey I didn't write the memo, ATT did.
    Still have yet to see a memo stating that the current 3G SIM cards won't be capable of HSPA+ speeds.

    Have only seen anything stating that the new SIM cards are required for LTE once available.
    03-07-2011 01:17 PM
  10. nickmatteis's Avatar
    i didnt even get a new SIM when i upgraded from BB Torch... was i supposed to? I didnt think the SIM played any factor in speed....
    03-13-2011 01:11 PM
  11. pazzo02's Avatar
    Does anyone know the definition of HSPA+ speeds? It is already apparent to me that the phone has no indication of HSPA+ (only HSDPA is shown for mobile network type). If anyone has any information to the contrary, please speak up.
    03-14-2011 09:24 PM
  12. mthorn79's Avatar
    03-15-2011 10:08 AM
  13. DavidCrow's Avatar
    I don't think AT&T's LTE network will be complete until late 2013.
    03-15-2011 10:20 AM
  14. DavidCrow's Avatar
    Actually, there is a 4G card for the Inspire, as I was offered one when I purchased my phone. It's slightly larger than the 3G card.
    03-15-2011 10:22 AM
  15. mthorn79's Avatar
    Does anyone know the definition of HSPA+ speeds? It is already apparent to me that the phone has no indication of HSPA+ (only HSDPA is shown for mobile network type). If anyone has any information to the contrary, please speak up.
    Actually this link might be more informative...

    3G UMTS HSDPA - High Speed Downlink Packet Access Tutorial :: Radio-Electronics.Com
    03-15-2011 11:00 AM
  16. CutRiteFX's Avatar
    Don't know if this was posted already.
    Mine shows 73043


    (Update)
    Just went to the local AT&T store and asked for a 4g sim and they gave me one.

    I tested and getting the same results for speed in Charlotte NC
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    03-15-2011 12:20 PM
  17. pazzo02's Avatar
    I know what it is. I was asking if anyone else does. People complain they're not getting 4G speeds, but how do they know what speeds to expect? My speedtest.net scores are slightly better than an iPhone 3GS, but that's probably mostly the processor.

    Also, depending on if you're indoors or outdoors, your distance from the tower, etc., the speeds vary greatly. Don't get me wrong, I do agree AT&T is limiting the speeds to protect their network.
    03-15-2011 04:47 PM
  18. pazzo02's Avatar
    I don't think AT&T's LTE network will be complete until late 2013.
    I've heard that the Inspire doesn't run on the LTE network, different technology. I've also heard that LTE would be up by the end of this year. Maybe I'm hearing things.
    03-15-2011 04:49 PM
  19. pazzo02's Avatar
    Okay, I got a new sim today. Standing at the counter I ran the Speedtest app before taking out the 3G sim. Then I ran it again with the new "4G" sim. Got virtually the same results.

    Another interesting thing, when I went into the store I asked the guy if they got the 4G sims in yet. He said "No. Wait, for what phone?" I said for the Inspire and he said "oh yeah, we have those."
    03-21-2011 06:17 PM
  20. mowquas's Avatar
    I ordered my inspire on Thursday and was told by two separate representatives that I could not keep my unlimited data plan and had to chose a different one.

    They said its because the unlimited plan is a 3G plan and is not available in a 4G plan and that the inspire required a 4G plan.
    Never take as fact what you hear from at&t reps in-store. Example- i was told the nexus s would work with at&t 3g...even while they looked at the nexus spec list that clearly shows it won't support their 3g frequencies.

    The lack of accurate technical info by their in-store reps is one of biggest issues with at&t.
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    03-23-2011 02:50 PM
  21. netposer's Avatar
    The new "4G" SIMs are for future upgrades so right now I doubt you will see any differences in speed from a 3G to a 4G SIM. But just like moving from 2G to 3G you will eventually see issues even though your 3G SIM will work in your 4G phone.

    We still have folks using 3G Blackberry's with 2G (Cingular 64K SIM cards). They work but don't have simultaneous voice and data and slower data speeds.
    03-23-2011 03:22 PM
  22. MaBeRnAt's Avatar
    I got my inspire last night and asked to keep the micro sim from my iPhone 4 because I want to switch back and forth from it and the inspire. I'm having trouble positioning the micro sim inside the inspire. I have positioned the micro sim in a iPhone 2g tray before but that was easier. So my question is how did you position it to be recognized in the inspire with micro sim?
    03-24-2011 08:47 PM
  23. BryanTheRed's Avatar
    I got my inspire last night and asked to keep the micro sim from my iPhone 4 because I want to switch back and forth from it and the inspire. I'm having trouble positioning the micro sim inside the inspire. I have positioned the micro sim in a iPhone 2g tray before but that was easier. So my question is how did you position it to be recognized in the inspire with micro sim?
    Buy yourself a few of these, Micro Sim to Sim Microsim Card Adapter *USA SELLER* - eBay (item 220674363826 end time Apr-23-11 11:10:27 PDT) makes life a lot easier!
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    03-24-2011 10:03 PM
  24. Jets's Avatar
    FWIW .. I got my Inspire as an upgrade through Amazon and it came with the new LTE 73057 sim.
    03-25-2011 07:23 PM
  25. Patg88's Avatar
    I had my sim changed yesterday because at&t claimed it would increase the signal strength. There is no difference in signal strength or up/download speeds. They did mention that as the cell towers and sofrware are upgradded, the new sim card will be needed to run at the higher speeds.
    03-25-2011 07:52 PM
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