11-19-2013 11:35 AM
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  1. bad43085's Avatar
    Hey everyone. I'm new to this and new to Android. I just got my G2 (LG-D800 from AT&T) on Sunday and, while it has only been about 3 days of use I'm feeling fairly disappointed in the battery life so far. I'm not that familiar with Android and how to use it quite yet, and maybe I had unrealistic expectations for this battery from reviews. But I don't think I'm getting even the same life out of my G2 that I did with my previous phone (iPhone 4). On my iPhone with what I would say to be minimal to moderate use during a work day (some texting, some browsing, updating some apps like twitter, instagram, etc) I would get home with around 50% life left. Through my first two days of use on my G2 with considerably less use (no browsing, no gaming, less texting, less updating the same apps, and without my most used app on iPhone that is not available on Android), I've been lucky to come home with 50% left. While doing some research on this, I've been closing all tasks before closing the phone, turing off the LED notification to all but texts and missed calls, turned off auto-sync, and still feel disappointed. On my iPhone, I never had to make a conscious decision to turn OFF notifications or GPS in an effort to save battery. So I'd had to buy into a battery caveat that I need to turn my smartphone into a dumbphone to get anticipated battery life. From the Battery Manager, it appears I lose about 6-9% an hour without really doing anything. Are others having these problems? I've heard factory reset has solved the problem at time, but again, someone will have to give me direction here as I'm not yet too familiar with Android. If there are any other suggestions, I'd love to hear them. I apologize for the long winded comment, but with my first Android experience on a device that promised an un-killable battery, I'm a bit frustrated in the early going.

    Thanks!
    11-13-2013 08:07 AM
  2. tsells's Avatar
    You can try this:
    Settings->general->apps->running
    Look for Android System. Click it and you should see Carrier IQ and then you can stop it.

    This has helped a lot of us get great battery life
    Note: Whenever you restart your phone, you will then have to redo the above.

    No need to turn off all that are you doing, as those are features that you want in this phone. Just turn off wifi or bluetooth if not using them and reduce screen brightness to as low as acceptable.
    11-13-2013 08:19 AM
  3. bad43085's Avatar
    Thanks.

    When I go in there and click on Android System, there isn't anything there. I have the option to stop Android System is appear, and am told it can't be stopped safely. Am I missing something?
    11-13-2013 09:40 AM
  4. tsells's Avatar
    Thanks.

    When I go in there and click on Android System, there isn't anything there. I have the option to stop Android System is appear, and am told it can't be stopped safely. Am I missing something?
    That's strange. Try rebooting your phone. I just rebooted and went to Apps>Running Apps>Android System> and Carrier IQ was there when I opened Android System. And I then stopped Carrier IQ (and there was a warning, but don't worry about that).
    11-13-2013 11:26 AM
  5. bad43085's Avatar
    Thanks. I rebooted and it showed up. I stopped it. Android System is still at 45%. Maybe it just needs a few days to settle in or something. I don't know.
    11-13-2013 11:47 AM
  6. bad43085's Avatar
    If it helps. Here are some screenshots. Perhaps I just need to adjust my expectations of the battery in this phone. But I've barely used it all day. Nothing more than 2 texts and trying to manage some of the tips I've seen on here.Battery Life (duplicate I'm sure)-screenshot-1.jpgBattery Life (duplicate I'm sure)-screenshot-2.jpg
    11-13-2013 11:59 AM
  7. tsells's Avatar
    Aren't those numbers before you turned off Carrier IQ?
    Hopefully they will improve now, as my Android System is usually around 20%.

    PS And don't believe anyone when they say that the system or battery needs to "settle in". That simply is not true!
    11-13-2013 12:15 PM
  8. bad43085's Avatar
    That's after I quite the IQ, but the timing of that and these screenshots is irrelevant really since the numbers haven't really changed. The Android System was at 44%. If anything that is down from right around 50% post IQ.
    11-13-2013 12:20 PM
  9. bad43085's Avatar
    That also reflects 31 minutes of onscreen time today...
    11-13-2013 12:21 PM
  10. Just_Some_Nobody's Avatar
    You can try this:
    Settings->general->apps->running
    Look for Android System. Click it and you should see Carrier IQ and then you can stop it.

    This has helped a lot of us get great battery life
    Note: Whenever you restart your phone, you will then have to redo the above.

    No need to turn off all that are you doing, as those are features that you want in this phone. Just turn off wifi or bluetooth if not using them and reduce screen brightness to as low as acceptable.
    You also need to wait a second and Android System will jump to the top of the list and then you can stop it as well. It's been my experience that if you don't do both of these steps, your battery will still suck.
    11-13-2013 12:30 PM
  11. Just_Some_Nobody's Avatar
    This is what you should be expecting from this phone:

    Battery Life (duplicate I'm sure)-screenshot_2013-11-12-17-20-37.jpg
    Battery Life (duplicate I'm sure)-screenshot_2013-11-12-17-20-47.jpg
    Battery Life (duplicate I'm sure)-screenshot_2013-11-12-17-21-01.jpg

    I have Exchange and K9 both polling emails. I have gmail syncing. I have Google Now ON. I have Location Reporting OFF.
    I mostly text and browse the web.
    11-13-2013 12:33 PM
  12. bad43085's Avatar
    Stop this as well?
    Battery Life (duplicate I'm sure)-screenshot-3.jpg
    11-13-2013 12:37 PM
  13. Just_Some_Nobody's Avatar
    Stop this as well?
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    Yes.
    11-13-2013 01:39 PM
  14. sagyb's Avatar
    I was in the same boat. Battery was draining very fast. Once I stopped the IQ service and "Android System" it improved dramatically.

    I have everything on - location, sync, backup, you name it (i believe the phone should work for me, not the other way around). it's been 40 hours since my phone last saw a charger, and i'm currently at 36%.
    11-13-2013 02:01 PM
  15. bad43085's Avatar
    I was in the same boat. Battery was draining very fast. Once I stopped the IQ service and "Android System" it improved dramatically.

    I have everything on - location, sync, backup, you name it (i believe the phone should work for me, not the other way around). it's been 40 hours since my phone last saw a charger, and i'm currently at 36%.
    Do you have to Stop "Android System" regularly? I just went in and it was running again (I stopped it early today). I did restart my phone though, so maybe it turns on with every restart. But yes, I would be quite annoyed to have a phone like this and not be able to have it "work for me". Battery Use Detail still shows my Android System taking up 42% but perhaps that is the entirety of the charge and once I refill the charge that will go down?

    I'm sorry, but I'm new to Android as of Sunday (ditched Apple) so this is like learning a new language for me.

    Thanks for the help!
    11-13-2013 02:46 PM
  16. Just_Some_Nobody's Avatar
    Do you have to Stop "Android System" regularly? I just went in and it was running again (I stopped it early today). I did restart my phone though, so maybe it turns on with every restart. But yes, I would be quite annoyed to have a phone like this and not be able to have it "work for me". Battery Use Detail still shows my Android System taking up 42% but perhaps that is the entirety of the charge and once I refill the charge that will go down?

    I'm sorry, but I'm new to Android as of Sunday (ditched Apple) so this is like learning a new language for me.

    Thanks for the help!
    You have to do this after each restart.

    If you root, you can stop it permanently. I just choose not to root yet.

    Just a note: That percentage is based on battery used so far. So if Android System is at 42% and the battery remaining is at 98%, then Android System has used 42% of 2% of the battery.
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    11-13-2013 02:50 PM
  17. bad43085's Avatar
    You have to do this after each restart.

    If you root, you can stop it permanently. I just choose not to root yet.

    Just a note: That percentage is based on battery used so far. So if Android System is at 42% and the battery remaining is at 98%, then Android System has used 42% of 2% of the battery.
    Great. Thanks for the help! I will keep an eye on it in the coming days.
    11-13-2013 03:05 PM
  18. pblakk's Avatar
    This is what you should be expecting from this phone:

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    I have Exchange and K9 both polling emails. I have gmail syncing. I have Google Now ON. I have Location Reporting OFF.
    I mostly text and browse the web.
    Have you rooted?

    Sent from my LG-D800 using AC Forums mobile app
    11-13-2013 03:23 PM
  19. Just_Some_Nobody's Avatar
    Have you rooted?

    Sent from my LG-D800 using AC Forums mobile app
    No. Not yet.
    11-13-2013 04:19 PM
  20. pblakk's Avatar
    No. Not yet.
    My battery life wasn't great the first few days either but it definitely improved in about a week

    Sent from my LG-D800 using AC Forums mobile app
    11-13-2013 06:40 PM
  21. MrBungle999's Avatar
    I always stop android system but last couple of days the phone has been draining way more than usual. 2 hours into work yesterday I was at 85% with absolutely no use, all idle. I would usually still be at 100%-98% 2-3 hours into the day with just peeks at the time. By the end of the day I was at nearly 35% plus I was charging in my car at lunch. I've been able to make it home with 65-75% with no charging and moderate use heavy at lunch. it's very inconsistent.

    I also came from iphone, although I love this phone It is disappointing that I have to fight with it to make it work right. I shouldn't have to root or stop android or anything and this whole battery thing is so inconsistent even with IQ stopped. GPS has been a pain in the a$$ too. last night it was just popping on and searching for signal all night. Apple needs to grab their balls and make a larger screen.

    Sent from my LG-D800 using AC Forums mobile app
    11-14-2013 07:16 AM
  22. Just_Some_Nobody's Avatar
    If GPS was just popping on last night are you sure you stopped IQ? Not only do you have to stop IQ within Android System but you then have to stop Android System itself. After you stop IQ Android System jumps to the top of the list so scroll up.


    Do you have other apps that need your location? Maybe its something else.


    I agree, AT&T should not have put the junk on this phone that makes it less than the stellar phone that it is.

    Believe me, if AT&T were allowed to put bloat on the iPhone, it too would be having issues.

    Posted via Android Central App using an LG G2.
    11-14-2013 08:20 AM
  23. bad43085's Avatar
    This is what you should be expecting from this phone:

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    I have Exchange and K9 both polling emails. I have gmail syncing. I have Google Now ON. I have Location Reporting OFF.
    I mostly text and browse the web.
    The second half of yesterday I saw life similar to this. Today it appears to be trending closer to the frustrating life I had at the beginning of this saga. Here is where I am right now.
    Battery Life (duplicate I'm sure)-screenshot-5.jpgBattery Life (duplicate I'm sure)-screenshot-6.jpg

    Android System is down from the mid 40s yesterday, but still seems high for what everything is saying
    11-14-2013 11:33 AM
  24. Just_Some_Nobody's Avatar
    The second half of yesterday I saw life similar to this. Today it appears to be trending closer to the frustrating life I had at the beginning of this saga. Here is where I am right now.
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    Android System is down from the mid 40s yesterday, but still seems high for what everything is saying
    Do you have Better Battery Stats? That might help by showing us the Partial Wakelocks.

    And it is kinda confusing, but the Android System that is showing the 34% above in your picture isn't a bad thing necessarily. And it doesn't mean that IQ is back. This Android System is the honest to goodness Android System.

    What we need to find out is why, even though IQ is off, your battery is draining. This is where Better Battery Stats would help.
    I don't have a link, but it's on XDA forums.
    11-14-2013 04:08 PM
  25. tsells's Avatar
    I turned off wifi and turned off GPS to see about battery life while I was away from my office yesterday. The battery was ridiculously good, as it was still at 50% at the end of the day!!!
    11-15-2013 11:56 AM
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