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  1. Clocks's Avatar
    There's a lot of talk (and advertising) about how tmobile is a better choice than AT&T or Verizon. Coverage and locked bootloaders aside, I don't see how the math adds up to save someone with 2 lines money?

    We have 10gb on verizon, 2 lines, with 2 edge payments. Thats $80+15+15+25+25 = $160. No crazy grandfathered plan, just an off the shelf regular plan. I also get a discount on the data, which brings the total to $144 + taxes

    On tmobile 2 lines (each with 3gb) is $100 + 2 phone payments ($25 each) or $150 + taxes and fees.

    I could easily get my pre-discount verizon price to below $150 if I cut back to 6gb.

    I have 0 carrier loyalty. I'd switch tonight if I would save a reasonable amount of money (although I have tried cricket and straight talk on AT&T's network and got a ton of dropped calls). Am I really bad at math, or is verizon actually cheaper for a family that doesnt need more than 10gb of data per month?
    05-06-2015 12:10 PM
  2. SpookDroid's Avatar
    Ummm TMo's 2 line plan for 100 bucks is unlimited 4G. And free international data roaming and texting. And free In-flight texting.
    05-06-2015 12:20 PM
  3. Aquila's Avatar
    Try this plan out:
    LIMITED TIME! 2 lines of UNLIMITED 4G LTE data on our network for just $100/mo. Additional lines $40/mo. per line. NOTE: UNLIMITED 4G LTE data must be added to all lines on your plan.

    http://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phone-plans/family.html#tab-navigation
    05-06-2015 12:22 PM
  4. tube517's Avatar
    I just got Tmobile 2 lines for $100 unlimited talk text and data. Not sure where you saw 3 GB limit


    Also T-Mobile has 4 lines 10gb of data for all lines total for $100.

    Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note 2
    05-06-2015 12:22 PM
  5. SpookDroid's Avatar
    See? That's why we say it's cheaper. 'Cause it is!
    05-06-2015 12:31 PM
  6. Shilohcane's Avatar
    I just got Tmobile 2 lines for $100 unlimited talk text and data. Not sure where you saw 3 GB limit


    Also T-Mobile has 4 lines 10gb of data for all lines total for $100.

    Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note 2
    Agree, don't know where the OP got his T-Mobile pricing. I just talked a friend into moving plus his wife from Verizon to T-Mobile with the 2 lines for $100 unlimited talk text and data. First thing he said the HD voice calls on T-Mobile is just so much better than the $160 a month Verizon plan he was on. T-Mobile even paid off both their phones with Verizon when they moved.
    05-06-2015 12:55 PM
  7. Clocks's Avatar
    So if you are bringing a phone you already own to T-Mobile I can see how it would be cheaper. The edge discount verizon gives makes the phone "free" while you'd have to tack on 2 phone payments to that $100 T-Mobile plan if you buy phones from them.
    05-06-2015 12:59 PM
  8. Clocks's Avatar
    Agree, don't know where the OP got his T-Mobile pricing. I just talked a friend into moving plus his wife from Verizon to T-Mobile with the 2 lines for $100 unlimited talk text and data. First thing he said the HD voice calls on T-Mobile is just so much better than the $160 a month Verizon plan he was on. T-Mobile even paid off both their phones with Verizon when they moved.
    The only way they paid off his verizon plan is if he bought 2 phones from T-Mobile, hence that $100 plan is actually $150 assuming 2 $25 phone payments. On Verizon the 160 includes the same 2 phone payments. So he saves $10/m?

    And the price is on tmobile.com. I see they are running a promotion now for unlimited vs 3gb. But its right their on their website in black and white.

    But my question still stands. 2 lines and you dont need unlimited data, verizon is either $10 more expensive or with a widely available corporate discount is less expensive than tmobile, assuming you are buying a phone from the carrier.

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    05-06-2015 01:01 PM
  9. Shilohcane's Avatar
    The only way they paid off his verizon plan is if he bought 2 phones from T-Mobile, hence that $100 plan is actually $150 assuming 2 $25 phone payments. On Verizon the 160 includes the same 2 phone payments. So he saves $10/m?
    They did buy two new phones since both of them dropped their phones and her glass face was spider-ed but it still worked. His Verizon Droid X was dropped at their wedding and it was a brick. They walked into Verizon which gave them a hard time so he called me and I told him a T-Mobile store was across the street. They went into T-Mobile and he loved the way he was treated and he walked out with a Note 4 and she got a Samsung Avant. When they went back to Verizon they put him in touch with the retention dept at Verizon that suddenly found a better deal he wasn't offered the first time but it was still more expensive than T-Mobile and would require a new two year contract. They are now both on T-Mobile and love the money they are saving with two unlimited phones for $100 a month total. BTW, in addition to my wedding gift I bought them both a case since they are tough on phones.
    05-06-2015 01:09 PM
  10. Clocks's Avatar
    for $100 a month total
    they gave him the phones for free?

    If we aren't including phone payments my verizon bill is currently $94 for 10gb. $64+15+15.

    Again...unless you're using more than 10gb a month or bringing a device you already own where are the savings?
    05-06-2015 01:16 PM
  11. Almeuit's Avatar
    Mainly data users call it cheaper. Example below.

    I am currently at 95+ GB of usage on just my line .. If I did that on Verizon my phone bill would be a mortgage payment ^_^.
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    05-06-2015 01:21 PM
  12. Shilohcane's Avatar
    they gave him the phones for free?

    If we aren't including phone payments my verizon bill is currently $94 for 10gb. $64+15+15.

    Again...unless you're using more than 10gb a month or bringing a device you already own where are the savings?
    No the phones weren't free. Verzion was going to charge them for two new phones since his was dead and hers screen was busted. Now he doesn't have a 2 year service contract with T-Mobile and was able to get out of the last 1.2 years of his Verizon contract for free. Sure they have to pay off their new phones but it was a better deal than what Verizon offered them both times they were in the store. He was with Verizon for 8 years.

    Verizon doesn't even offer Bring Your Own Phone plan unless that phone was originally purchased from Verizon. I will never buy a Carrier phone and any phone I buy will be unlocked so I can fire my carrier when they don't provide the service I want. Besides it is always cheaper to buy a unlocked phone on your Visa card than paying it through the carrier over 24 months. My Visa card gives me cash back.
    05-06-2015 01:26 PM
  13. Almeuit's Avatar
    they gave him the phones for free?

    If we aren't including phone payments my verizon bill is currently $94 for 10gb. $64+15+15.

    Again...unless you're using more than 10gb a month or bringing a device you already own where are the savings?
    Wait ... $64 for the 10 GB .. so you're comparing a discount?

    That isn't a fair comparison. You're asking why do people say it is cheaper but .. you're comparing to a discount you have on Verizon. Not everyone can have the discount you have.

    If you have a good discount and don't need tons of data then yes T-Mobile may not be the cheapest. Or if you're on an old legacy plan on Verizon it could be cheaper than current T-Mobile ones.

    Comparing has to be Apples to Apples -- Not full price service vs. discounted service through an employer that everyone doesn't have... unless of course if you're comparing your specific situation.
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    05-06-2015 01:30 PM
  14. Clocks's Avatar
    Comparing has to be Apples to Apples -- Not full price service vs. discounted service through an employer that everyone doesn't have.
    80+15+15 = $110 is the undiscounted price for verizon. Which if you're not a heavy data user could easily be brought down to $100/m for 8gb I believe, matching tmobile.

    I think Almeuit answered my question. If you're a heavy data user tmobile is cheaper. I guess my math is right that tmobile, verizon, at&t are all the same price if unlimited data doesnt matter to you.

    I think the marketing has been effective though. Lots of insisting in this thread that tmobile is $100! $100 only! Just $100! While AT&T and Verizon are actually the same price (minus the unlimited data), but list their pricing differently by 'discounting' when you add a phone payment.
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    05-06-2015 01:34 PM
  15. Almeuit's Avatar
    I think Almeuit answered my question. If you're a heavy data user tmobile is cheaper. I guess my math is right that tmobile, verizon, at&t are all the same price if unlimited data doesnt matter to you.
    Exactly. It really is people who use more data where it becomes a lot cheaper .. If you use a moderate amount though Verizon is better (in my opinion). You get that coverage + reliability for not much more. The day I don't use a ton (or get wifi where I do use a ton) I could easily see myself on a family plan (4 lines / 10 GB shared). The price difference won't be much to T-Mobile and we will have that coverage.
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    05-06-2015 01:38 PM
  16. Shilohcane's Avatar
    they gave him the phones for free?

    If we aren't including phone payments my verizon bill is currently $94 for 10gb. $64+15+15.

    Again...unless you're using more than 10gb a month or bringing a device you already own where are the savings?
    Well great and unless you're using more than 2GB a month my MetroPCS is only $35 a month for LTE 4G data before the unlimited 3G data. So with T-Mobiles/Metro PCS I pay only $35 a month and that includes all taxes. Granded I have a $5 discount from a family plan but It sure beats your over priced Verizon service at $94 plus tax a month even with your discount. Fact is my wife and I only pay $70 a month for 2GB data at LTE speeds each including taxes and your deal still isn't close $$$ wize for just your one phone.

    Again Verizon's "Bringing a device you already own plan" REQUIRES you to have a phone that was originally purchased from Verizon. Verizon won't accept phones that came from Sprint, T-Mobile, USCC or AT&T on their Bring your own phone plan.
    05-06-2015 01:43 PM
  17. Almeuit's Avatar
    Well great and unless you're using more than 2GB a month my MetroPCS is only $35 a month for 4G data before the unlimited 3G data. So with T-Mobiles/Metro PCS I pay only $35 a month and that includes all taxes. Granded I have a $5 discount from a family plan but It sure beats your over priced Verizon service at $94 plus tax a month.
    To be fair it works better than his Verizon service .. for your area. His area could have way worse coverage for T-Mobile / Metro.
    05-06-2015 01:45 PM
  18. Clocks's Avatar
    To be fair it works better than his Verizon service .. for your area. His area could have way worse coverage for T-Mobile / Metro.
    I never tried metro, but straight talk and cricket dropped a bunch of work calls in the week i tried each of them!
    05-06-2015 01:47 PM
  19. Almeuit's Avatar
    I never tried metro, but straight talk and cricket dropped a bunch of work calls in the week i tried each of them!
    Metro basically runs on T-Mobile so .. if you tried T-Mobile it would most likely yield the same results. Cricket runs on AT&Ts network.
    05-06-2015 01:48 PM
  20. Crashdamage's Avatar
    I've heard the Verizon vs T-Mobile price debate for years. Any way you figure it, all things equal (no special stuff like employer discounts) T-Mobile always has been cheaper and probably always will be. Oh, once in a blue moon Verizon may come up with a deal that matches or beats T-Mobile be a few dollars but that's really rare and T-Mobile always counters quickly with a better deal. In almost 18 years with T-Mobile I've saved a lotta money.

    Plus, T-Mobile has always been smarter about technology. GSM vs CDMA was an easy choice. Verizon went LTE first, but T-Mobile waited for the technology to mature and built a more advanced, faster network.

    Plus, T-Mobile is BYOD-friendly. They've had HD calling for about a year already. Some phones have WiFi calling.

    Verizon fans always yak about coverage, coverage, coverage and there's certainly something to it. But if you have good coverage with T-Mobile in your area I don't know why anyone would put up with Verizon.

    Android since v1.0. Linux user since 2001.
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    05-06-2015 01:52 PM
  21. grover5's Avatar
    I have 6 lines on my T-Mobile plan. Each line has unlimited calls and text and 2.5 GB of high speed data with no overages. I pay $250 a month which includes about $100 in phone payments for two note 3's, a Nexus 6 and an iPhone 5c. The other two lines the phones were hand me downs. A blackberry Z10 and a moto g.

    I tried to duplicate my plan on Verizon using the edge service. It wouldn't let me exceed 5 items in my cart so for 5 lines and 15 GB of data my bill would be $313. At $63 more per month that would be $756 a year. For me Verizon is significantly more expensive. Plus I can bring any device I want on to T-Mobile.

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    05-06-2015 02:19 PM
  22. Shilohcane's Avatar
    To be fair it works better than his Verizon service .. for your area. His area could have way worse coverage for T-Mobile / Metro.
    OK I understand that since AT&T doesn't work good where I live. It is always location location location for the best Carrier. However we were talking price for individuals needs. Almeuit you say you use 95GB+ a month of data. I have never even used more than 500Mb since I connect to Wi-Fi where every I go and at home. So for me the $35 a month plan from MetroPCS with 2GB looks like a waste of extra data for my personal needs. Since I have Comcast Xfinity service at home I am connecting into Xfinity hot spots in every major shopping center and most bars and restraunts have free Wi-Fi I just don't use a lot of cell data each month. I use my Nexus 5 & 7 for games but mainly on Wi-Fi.
    05-06-2015 02:26 PM
  23. Almeuit's Avatar
    OK I understand that since AT&T doesn't work good where I live. It is always location location but we were talking price for individuals needs. Almeuit you say you use 95GB+ a month of data. I have never even used more than 500Mb since I connect to Wi-Fi where every I go and at home. So for me the $35 a month plan from MetroPCS for 2GB looks like a waste of data for my needs. Since I have Comcast Xfinity service at home I am connecting into Xfinity hot spots in every major shopping center and most bars and restraunts have free Wi-Fi I just don't use a lot of cell data each month.
    I have Comcast as well but .. my main usage is at work. When out and about on the weekends I don't really use much. Also I don't like connecting to open / free hotspots around town. Even if I had a limited plan I wouldn't connect to them (security reasons).

    The day my work has good wifi .. I won't really "need" unlimited any more. Below is the usage for me and my GF. Today is the last day of this cycle.
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    05-06-2015 02:30 PM
  24. tube517's Avatar
    What works for you works for you.

    I didn't pay a dime for a phone because I already have a few phones I can use (Love GSM). Thus, my savings are about $700 vs Verizon if I switched.

    In other words, YMMV. Each person has to figure out what works best for them. Not you or I.

    T-Mobile is shaking up the cellular industry. Paying off ETFs and no contracts is a truly nice feature. The coverage in the mountains suck. I found out the hard way but I understood that coming in. I'm sure Verizon or AT&T may have had better coverage, I don't know or care. I'm just glad to be off contracts.

    Also, circumstances change. For example, if I got a job in BFE that required strong cell service, then I would have to consider AT&T and Verizon. Again, it's all about what is best for YOU.
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    05-06-2015 02:38 PM
  25. Aquila's Avatar
    I have Comcast as well but .. my main usage is at work. When out and about on the weekends I don't really use much. Also I don't like connecting to open / free hotspots around town. Even if I had a limited plan I wouldn't connect to them (security reasons).

    The day my work has good wifi .. I won't really "need" unlimited any more. Below is the usage for me and my GF. Today is the last day of this cycle.
    What in the blazes.... if you don't get over 100 by the EOD we're going to have words.
    05-06-2015 02:42 PM
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